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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1125 on: December 15, 2018, 09:48:02 am »
I purchased a SDS1104X-E in November in Australia and it has the following:

software version: 8.0.6.1.26
fpga version: 2018-07-26
hardware version: 01-03

Interesting...  ::)

Can you send me a copy of the .app file?
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1126 on: December 15, 2018, 10:32:18 am »
I have not done any updates. Not sure what the "8." signifies in the software version instead of "7.". Perhaps it is related to the hardware version rather than the operating system or software?

The first few digits are the "server" part. The last digits of the version number are the oscilloscope firmware.
Siglent it self work with it like they are two different version-numbers. Would have been better to display them as two numbers instead of one.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1127 on: December 15, 2018, 02:03:01 pm »
I purchased a SDS1104X-E in November in Australia and it has the following:

software version: 8.0.6.1.26
fpga version: 2018-07-26
hardware version: 01-03

Interesting...  ::)

Can you send me a copy of the .app file?

I would but - I have not put on the cracked operating system as I did not want to risk downgrading it to 7.1. I was going to wait until siglent releases another newer operating system. So I don't think I have a way to access the .app file. I am assuming I need telnet access to the device to access the .app file.

Oh and sorry - I typed the wrong numbers in my earlier post. Should have had "1" as the second digits instead of "0" like this:

I have seen it mentioned a number of times that the latest software/firmware is 7.1.6.1.26.

I purchased a SDS1104X-E in November in Australia and it has the following:

software version: 8.1.6.1.26
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I have now corrected this in the earlier post. Sorry for any confusion there.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1128 on: December 15, 2018, 02:40:14 pm »
plurn, able to stick a clean usb drive in the device and run this SCPI command,

SHELLCMD cp /usr/bin/siglent/sds1000b.app /usr/bin/siglent/usr/mass_storage/U-disk0/sds1000b.app

If you dont have a prefered client, I recommend EEZstudio
 
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1129 on: December 15, 2018, 04:20:51 pm »
Thanks Rerouter - I didn't know you could do system commands like that (hmm ... wondering if I can set a new root passwd that way). I just used the SCPI facility of the built in website.

It produced a 13277980 byte file. I'll send it to tv84.

md5sum in case someone wants to compare it to a 7.1.6.1.26 one. Might be the same:

$ md5sum /Volumes/UNTITLED/sds1000b.app
c246ac4ab74c56b9bc111f4e0cb2e535  /Volumes/UNTITLED/sds1000b.app

$ strings  /Volumes/UNTITLED/sds1000b.app |grep -B 4 -A 3 6.1.26
product_type SDS1002X_E
product_type SDS1004X_E
product_type SLA1016
1.3.15
6.1.26
test
1.1.1
8.1.11

notes: this is from SDS1104X-E software version: 8.1.6.1.26
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1130 on: December 15, 2018, 05:23:27 pm »
any chance you could pm me a copy aswell?
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1131 on: December 15, 2018, 05:57:47 pm »
any chance you could pm me a copy aswell?

Sure. Done.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1132 on: December 15, 2018, 07:41:38 pm »
any chance you could pm me a copy aswell?

Sure. Done.

Attached is the parsing of the official SDS1004X_E_6.1.26.ADS.

As you can see the APP of yours scope has the same CRC32 so no big change there.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1133 on: December 15, 2018, 10:24:53 pm »
Happy days, I present the magic of learning to use wireshark,

There was a command I wasn't sure was valid $$SY_FP well that command is the one easyscope uses to control all the buttons, yep no need for VKEY anymore, everything can be scripted for these things now :D

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Command syntax:
$$SY_FP <key>, <value>
For buttons, any integer is a press,
For knobs, a value of -1 is decrement, 0 is the button, 1 is increment, higher numbers correspond to moving that amount, e.g. 200 would be 200 clicks

keys:
0 - Menu Clear Button
1 - Function 1 (left most key on bottom of screen)
2 - Function 2
3 - Function 3
4 - Function 4
5 - Function 5
6 - Function 6
7 - Timebase (Decrease -1/ 0 Button / Increase 1)
10 - Timebase Offset (Decrease -1/ 0 Button / Increase 1)
11 - Autosetup Button
12 - Run / Stop Button
13 - Default Button
15 - Intensity (Decrease -1/ 0 Button / Increase 1)
16 - Trigger Level (Decrease -1/ 0 Button / Increase 1)
17 - Auto Trigger Button
18 - Trigger Button
19 - Normal Trigger Button
20 - Single Trigger Button
22 - Cursors Button
23 - Display / Persist button
24 - Utility Button
25 - Print Button
26 - Measure Button
27 - Aqcuire Button
28 - Save/Recall Button
29 - Decode Button
30 - Digital Button
31 - Math Button
32 - Reference Button
35 - Channel 1 VDIV (Decrease -1/ 0 Button / Increase 1)
36 - Channel 2 VDIV (Decrease -1/ 0 Button / Increase 1)
37 - Channel 3 VDIV (Decrease -1/ 0 Button / Increase 1)
38 - Channel 4 VDIV (Decrease -1/ 0 Button / Increase 1)
39 - Channel 1 Button
40 - Channel 2 Button
41 - Channel 3 Button
42 - Channel 4 Button
43 - Channel 1 Offset (Decrease -1/ 0 Button / Increase 1)
44 - Channel 2 Offset (Decrease -1/ 0 Button / Increase 1)
45 - Channel 3 Offset (Decrease -1/ 0 Button / Increase 1)
46 - Channel 4 Offset (Decrease -1/ 0 Button / Increase 1)
47 - Clear Sweeps Button
48 - History Button
49 - Roll Button
50 - Search Button
51 - Navigate Button
52 - Left Navigation Button
53 - Stop Navigate Button
54 - Right Navigate Button

14 - ??? no idea, if you figure it out, I'll fill it in.
« Last Edit: December 15, 2018, 10:43:52 pm by Rerouter »
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1134 on: December 19, 2018, 06:23:50 pm »
I have been trying for a bit to get wifi working on my network with the siglent, it just doesn't seem to want to connect for some reason - right IP settings, right network, right PSK..

Could it be non alphanumerics in the PSK?
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1135 on: December 19, 2018, 07:07:25 pm »
I have been trying for a bit to get wifi working on my network with the siglent, it just doesn't seem to want to connect for some reason - right IP settings, right network, right PSK..

Could it be non alphanumerics in the PSK?
Most likely.

See reply #1121
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds1204x-e-released-for-domestic-markets-in-china/msg2039518/#msg2039518
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1136 on: December 19, 2018, 07:16:55 pm »
I have been trying for a bit to get wifi working on my network with the siglent, it just doesn't seem to want to connect for some reason - right IP settings, right network, right PSK..

Could it be non alphanumerics in the PSK?
Most likely.

See reply #1121
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds1204x-e-released-for-domestic-markets-in-china/msg2039518/#msg2039518

Nope - tried it with just alphanumerics, no joy. I use google wifi at home. Tried DHCP and manually setting IP, Tried different PSKs (with and without "special" characters. Looked into the web interface for stuff I may have missed - nope.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1137 on: December 19, 2018, 07:34:18 pm »
I have been trying for a bit to get wifi working on my network with the siglent, it just doesn't seem to want to connect for some reason - right IP settings, right network, right PSK..

Could it be non alphanumerics in the PSK?
Most likely.

See reply #1121
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds1204x-e-released-for-domestic-markets-in-china/msg2039518/#msg2039518

Nope - tried it with just alphanumerics, no joy. I use google wifi at home. Tried DHCP and manually setting IP, Tried different PSKs (with and without "special" characters. Looked into the web interface for stuff I may have missed - nope.
OK, have you read my guide in Reply #1120 ?

You have WiFi selected but the WiFi indicator is grayed out ?

You change the IP settings in LAN and leave DHCP OFF then enter your WiFi settings into the WiFi sub menu.
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1138 on: December 19, 2018, 07:56:37 pm »
I have been trying for a bit to get wifi working on my network with the siglent, it just doesn't seem to want to connect for some reason - right IP settings, right network, right PSK..

Could it be non alphanumerics in the PSK?
Most likely.

See reply #1121
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds1204x-e-released-for-domestic-markets-in-china/msg2039518/#msg2039518

Nope - tried it with just alphanumerics, no joy. I use google wifi at home. Tried DHCP and manually setting IP, Tried different PSKs (with and without "special" characters. Looked into the web interface for stuff I may have missed - nope.
OK, have you read my guide in Reply #1120 ?

You have WiFi selected but the WiFi indicator is grayed out ?

You change the IP settings in LAN and leave DHCP OFF then enter your WiFi settings into the WiFi sub menu.

Yep - done all of that - Wifi indicator greyed out, "not connected"
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1139 on: December 19, 2018, 08:00:57 pm »
I have been trying for a bit to get wifi working on my network with the siglent, it just doesn't seem to want to connect for some reason - right IP settings, right network, right PSK..

Could it be non alphanumerics in the PSK?
Most likely.

See reply #1121
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds1204x-e-released-for-domestic-markets-in-china/msg2039518/#msg2039518

Nope - tried it with just alphanumerics, no joy. I use google wifi at home. Tried DHCP and manually setting IP, Tried different PSKs (with and without "special" characters. Looked into the web interface for stuff I may have missed - nope.
OK, have you read my guide in Reply #1120 ?

You have WiFi selected but the WiFi indicator is grayed out ?

You change the IP settings in LAN and leave DHCP OFF then enter your WiFi settings into the WiFi sub menu.

Yep - done all of that - Wifi indicator greyed out, "not connected"
And you're close to your WiFi source and pressed 'Connect' ?
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1140 on: December 19, 2018, 08:02:15 pm »
less than 5m from a wifi point, and hit connect.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1141 on: December 19, 2018, 08:06:29 pm »
less than 5m from a wifi point, and hit connect.
OK, what have we missed ?  :-//

Are you on the latest firmware ****26 ?
What WiFi dongle do you have ?
Is WiFi licensing permanent or on trial uses ?
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1142 on: December 19, 2018, 08:11:56 pm »
On the latest firmware
Wifi dongle is the TP-Link TL-WN725N
Licensing is permanent

SDS 1104x-e will pick up the SSID via manual search in the wifi menu
Tried Static and DHCP
Positive the password is correct
Tried password without alphanumerics

SSID has spaces in it? could be the issue?
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1143 on: December 19, 2018, 08:14:54 pm »
On the latest firmware
Wifi dongle is the TP-Link TL-WN725N
Licensing is permanent

SDS 1104x-e will pick up the SSID via manual search in the wifi menu
Tried Static and DHCP
Positive the password is correct
Tried password without alphanumerics

SSID has spaces in it? could be the issue?
Yep, mentioned in reply #1121.
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1144 on: December 19, 2018, 09:17:56 pm »
Still going through all the menu Items, there is a lot of them....  but luckily it provides better documentation than I could hope for, In a menu if you press an hold the option button, it will show the tooltip for that setting.

for the Cursor_set? command, e.g. C1:CRST? if you put a non matching parameter after the request it will return "TREF" with the value for "VDIV" rather than the normal error, this seems like the decision tree gets jumped somehow.

Also a small typo in the web server, "steup" located in file "\usr\bin\siglent\config\www\Instrument\novnc\vnc_auto.php"
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1145 on: December 19, 2018, 09:47:18 pm »
Also documented the LED? command, should help when navigating by the SY_FP command,

When queried "LED?" the scope returns a Hex Bitmask for all leds currently lit on the scope, (and apparently on the options too?)

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Bit - LED lit
1 - AWG Output
2 -?
3 -?
4 -?
5 -?
6 - Stop Red Led
7 - Run Green Led
8 - Single Trigger Button
9 - Normal Trigger Button
10 - Auto Trigger Button
11 - History Button
12 - Decode Button
13 - Search Button
14 - Roll Button
15 - References Button
16 - Math Button
17 - Measure Button
18 - Cursors Button
19 - Digital Button?
20 - Channel 4 Button
21 - Channel 3 Button
22 - Channel 2 Button
23 - Channel 1 Button
24 - Intensity Adjust LED
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1146 on: December 19, 2018, 10:19:44 pm »
When you save a setup to an internal memory location (i.e, #1) and then recall it, the v/Div does not recall properly if you were using fine scale, and also if the Trigger level was set for -150 volts (using a 100:1 probe) the trigger level recalls as -250volts when the setup file is recalled.  That is very frustrating, but for I use it for, my control software easily compensates for that.
Dave

Been looking into this more, would you be able to save a setup to USB, both the internal and external are just a simple XML file. so worst case you can likely correct the value, load the setup from usb, then resave it to the internal settings for now, or just edit it over telnet, "\usr\bin\siglent\usr\sds00001.xml"

edit: this is just to pin down an error with saving or an error with loading
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1147 on: December 19, 2018, 10:29:37 pm »
Wifi needs are ridiculous, I'll buy a cable and wait for an update
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1148 on: December 22, 2018, 11:42:22 am »
Looking into the 8.1.6.1.26 version (still the same as 7.1.6.1.26) It appears there are some new SCPI commands for setting the Trigger Gate Function, It appears the mac address can be changed without altering the serial number, and there is a new PASS command which I suspect may be wifi password, but as I dont have that option cannot confirm. As its not the WEB:PSW,

Most of the previously found typos still exist in it,

Any news on when the next version is likely to roll out Tautech?
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1149 on: December 22, 2018, 12:14:09 pm »
Any news on when the next version is likely to roll out Tautech?
None at all sorry and I’m in Perth for a couple of weeks.
Getting a couple of the new 2kX-E’s in next order so will be interesting to see any difference in firmware and UI in this new series.
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