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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #675 on: May 10, 2018, 03:24:40 pm »
How many measurement stats can Rigol display on the screen at the same time? 

Although I did not run into this issue yet as I usually use only two channels, max of 5 measured items on Siglent seems to few for a 4 ch scope...at least 8 would make more sense (2 stats per ch)

EDIT: looks like Rigol displays 5 items also, but Siglent gives more information such as Std-Dev and Count

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #676 on: May 10, 2018, 03:51:51 pm »
EDIT: looks like Rigol displays 5 items also, but Siglent gives more information such as Std-Dev and Count

Yep, it's five.

nb. You can take a quick peek at all the other measurements using the button on the right.



It toggles an overlay, eg.


...and Count
What happens if you press the button labelled "Counter"?
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #677 on: May 10, 2018, 05:40:40 pm »
EDIT: looks like Rigol displays 5 items also, but Siglent gives more information such as Std-Dev and Count

It toggles an overlay, eg.



Interesting.  Siglent can display all measurements also, however, only for one channel at a time.  Your example is showing Ch1 and Ch2 at the same time, but waveform is covered up - can transparency be adjusted?




...so, what happens when you press the Counter button?

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #678 on: May 11, 2018, 09:27:18 am »
waveform is covered up - can transparency be adjusted?

I don't think so.

...so, what happens when you press the Counter button?

It shows the frequency counter.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #679 on: May 11, 2018, 10:23:47 am »
Does someone tested input impedance of SDS1104X-E with vector signal analyzer?

I have old SDS1102X, and it's input impedance for frequency range 5-85 MHz is the following:



If you want I can take results for other frequency range.
I'm very interested to compare results with other oscilloscope models.

As I understand the probe compensation issue is related to the input impedance mismatch.

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #680 on: May 17, 2018, 06:17:57 pm »
Hi,

I recently bought a SDS1104X-E and I really like it so far. Coming from an ancient Philips PM3234 the possibilities of a modern and affordable dso are amazing!
And I don't understand the issues some people have with the UI. I found it rather quick and intuitive to use and I like the clean layout.

The only major bug I've noticed is in the search function. Once the aquisition is stopped, the scope often can't find search events in other channels than the selected one during aquisition. It seems to be somehow related to the channel offset, I have included some screenshots. That really slows down my work, because I often need to single capture multiple channels and search for specific events in them.
Is anyone able to reproduce the bug? (FW: 7.6.1.20 R1)

ps: shout-out to Performa01 for the amazing review and the work he puts into improving the firmware!
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #681 on: May 18, 2018, 02:01:48 pm »
The only major bug I've noticed is in the search function.
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Is anyone able to reproduce the bug? (FW: 7.6.1.20 R1)

I’ve already admitted that I did not do a thorough check on the Search function yet and right now I have very little time. Yet I’ve tried to reproduce that odd behavior and there is a bug indeed.

The test was done with two signals:
CH2: sine 5MHz 1.5Vpp
CH4: square 10MHz 1.5Vpp

First Search for rising slope at threshold 0V on channel 4 works as expected:


01 SDS1104X-E Search CH4 Th0V-1


Then the same Search fails on channel 2:


02 SDS1104X-E Search CH2 Th0V


Only after adjusting the threshold way negative, it starts working. The correct result is obtained when the channel 2 threshold level is at its negative maximum:


03 SDS1104X-E Search CH2 Th-nmax


Switching back to channel 1 still works as before:


04 SDS1104X-E Search CH4 Th0V-2


I’ll notify Siglent R&D of this issue.
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #682 on: May 20, 2018, 09:44:03 am »
Stemming from comments and questions about BW roll off I thought I'd offer some screenshots as examples.
Signal: HP 500 MHz sig gen and BNC connection.

SDS1104X-E just where waveform amplitude begins to reduce but still above -3dB BW




SDS1104X-E where the frequency counter starts to become unstable and waveform amplitude dramatically reduced.




SDS1202X-E, as for SDS1104X-E above, frequency counter starts to become unstable and waveform amplitude dramatically reduced. One might presume SDS1204X-E will produce identical results.

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #683 on: May 20, 2018, 02:30:16 pm »
@tautech, could you run the same test but with PP215 probe and SDS1104X-E?
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #684 on: May 20, 2018, 02:45:17 pm »
@tautech, can you please perform the same test for SDS1102X?
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #685 on: May 20, 2018, 05:59:27 pm »
@tautech, could you run the same test but with PP215 probe and SDS1104X-E?
Some probe data here:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds1204x-e-released-for-domestic-markets-in-china/msg1439052/#msg1439052
Frequency vs amplitude graph in posted link.

@tautech, can you please perform the same test for SDS1102X?
Sorry I don't have the 2ch SDS1102X+ older model any more, recently sold including 16ch MSO option.
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #686 on: May 22, 2018, 11:17:30 am »
New firmware for SDS1004X-E models
2 upgrades are offered, one for the OS and another for the firmware.

OS upgrade
17.6 Mb
https://www.siglentamerica.com/download/6158/

Firmware
7.6.1.25R1
7.5 Mb
https://www.siglentamerica.com/download/6154/

Changes and enhancements listed here:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds1104x-e-in-depth-review/msg1555936/#msg1555936

Also available is new firmware for the optional 16ch SLA1016 MSO module
7.8.1.9
https://www.siglentamerica.com/download/6161/

As always after updating perform Self Cal after a warm up period of ~30 minutes and take careful note of the firmware install instructions.
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #687 on: May 22, 2018, 11:29:53 am »
The above link is for the 7.6.1.20R1 firmware. The new firmware is missing on the Siglent America webpage.

Use this link for now:

https://www.siglenteu.com/download/5931/

EDIT: all update files are available on Siglent America webpage now too.  :-+
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #688 on: May 22, 2018, 05:43:11 pm »
Hi, I have a SDS-1104X-E and I'm very happy with it.

My software version is the original 7.6.1.12R1, do you advice to update even if I don't have significant problems with it?

What is the correct procedure? I have to update the OS and the firmware togheter?

 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #689 on: May 22, 2018, 09:13:10 pm »
Hi, I have a SDS-1104X-E and I'm very happy with it.

My software version is the original 7.6.1.12R1, do you advice to update even if I don't have significant problems with it?

What is the correct procedure? I have to update the OS and the firmware togheter?



Even if you have not noticed any significant problems yet, there are still lots of issues that have been addressed since the original V7.6.1.12 firmware. Traditionally, there are always significantly more fixes and improvements than what is listed in the version history. So my advice can only be to keep the firmware of your DSO up to date, even if you don't see an immediate need for that.

As for the correct procedure, it's basically straight forward. The OS update is independent from the firmware, so you can update both components in any order you like. I have updated the OS first, which happens so quick by the way that I wasn't even sure if it actually worked. Then the update of the firmware, where the additional version number field "7.1.6.1.25R1" finally confirmed that everything woked as expected.

Both updates are fairly easy to do:

OS update: just copy the 4 files (everything in the package short of the two version history files) to an empty 8GB or 32GB*) USB stick. Turn off the DSO, insert the USB stick, turn the scope on. After the startup is completed (which hardly takes any longer than usual), the update is already done.

Then copy the firmware update file *.ADS to the USB stick, plug it back in the DSO, choose UTILITY/UPDATE/Firmware, navigate to the *.ADS file using the universal control, then press the "Press To Update" softkey. Then restart the scope (using the power button) when prompted to do so and check the UTILITY/System Status to confirm the firmware version number is 7.1.6.1.25R1 as expected. Finally perform a self-calibration after the DSO has been up and running for at least 30 minutes (in total) and you're done.

*) This is what Siglent states in the update instructions. But actually any USB stick should work just fine, as long as it is FAT16 or FAT32 formatted.
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #690 on: May 22, 2018, 09:18:38 pm »
Parsings of the new ADS files:

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SDS1004X_E_6.1.25R1.ADS

File Header Size: 00000070
00000000 - File Checksum: C60EB4BF [00000004-00757F76] (with only the File Header decrypted)  CKSM OK
00000004 - File Size: 00757F07 (without 0x70 bytes of the File Header)
0000000C - HW Version: 13501
00000026 - Vendor/Brand: SIGLENT
0000003A - USB Host Controller: ISP1763
****************************************************
Decrypting the 0x2800 and 0x1400 blocks...
Reversing file...
XORing with 0xFF (incrementing pattern)...
XORing with 0xFF from 0x003ABF84 until 0x00757F06
****************************************************
00000000 --- Section Checksum: C379054A
00000004 --- Section Size: 00757ED3 [00000034-00757F06]  CKSM OK
00000008 --- Section # 00000007
00000034 --- 00757F06  ***** ZIP file *****
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00690C58  1.0  0000  0000  00000000  00000000  24-04-2018 16:46:29  00000000  [00690C7A-00690C79]  lib/
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SLA1016_8.1.9.ADS

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0000000C - HW Version: 14501
00000026 - Vendor/Brand: SIGLENT
0000003A - USB Host Controller: ISP1763
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Decrypting the 0x2800 and 0x1400 blocks...
Reversing file...
XORing with 0xFF (incrementing pattern)...
XORing with 0xFF from 0x0026295A until 0x004C52B2
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00000000 --- Section Checksum: D827DE50
00000004 --- Section Size: 004C527F [00000034-004C52B2]  CKSM OK
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #691 on: May 22, 2018, 09:18:51 pm »
As a note/addition I installed the FW and then OS from a freshly formatted and only 512 MB USB stick.
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #692 on: May 22, 2018, 09:36:50 pm »
As a note/addition I installed the FW and then OS from a freshly formatted and only 512 MB USB stick.

So it's confirmed that we can do it in any order we like.

Regarding USB stick size, I've already suspected that it doesn't really matter, but since I was in a hurry I did not want to take a chance and sticked - pun intended ;) - with the update instructions. Glad you can confirm that any USB stick will work, as long as it uses a (not ex!) FAT format.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #693 on: May 22, 2018, 09:44:16 pm »
As a note/addition I installed the FW and then OS from a freshly formatted and only 512 MB USB stick.

So it's confirmed that we can do it in any order we like.
Not entirely sure as some of the improvements you've listed in the Review thread I've not seen yet. More study needed. Got to whip out and get another shipment so it'll be later before I look at this all in detail.
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #694 on: May 23, 2018, 05:30:40 am »
As a note/addition I installed the FW and then OS from a freshly formatted and only 512 MB USB stick.

So it's confirmed that we can do it in any order we like.
Not entirely sure as some of the improvements you've listed in the Review thread I've not seen yet. More study needed. Got to whip out and get another shipment so it'll be later before I look at this all in detail.
Like Arny, I'll be back.  :)

Please don't alienate the folks here ;)

Verifying the listed fixes/improvements is a completely different matter and I will certainly take a closer look at them soon - even though I generally have very little time right now.

Whenever the system status displays 7.1.6.1.25R1 as the software version, then this proves that both (OS and FW) updates have worked okay. No further confirmation needed.

 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #695 on: May 23, 2018, 07:01:43 am »
For some reason, the OS update doesn't seem to install for me.  However, I was able to install the firmware with the .ADS file (using the same usb stick) so now my system version shows:

Software Version: 7.0.6.1.25R1
FPGA Version: 2018-03-06

Any ideas why it won't pick up the OS update during bootup?  I've tried having the usb stick in the front and back ports when I power on.  The files were in the root directory with nothing else on the drive.

I'll try another usb stick when I have time to go find one.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #696 on: May 23, 2018, 07:08:35 am »
For some reason, the OS update doesn't seem to install for me.  However, I was able to install the firmware with the .ADS file (using the same usb stick) so now my system version shows:

Software Version: 7.0.6.1.25R1
FPGA Version: 2018-03-06

Any ideas why it won't pick up the OS update during bootup?  I've tried having the usb stick in the front and back ports when I power on.  The files were in the root directory with nothing else on the drive.

I'll try another usb stick when I have time to go find one.

same issue for me...
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #697 on: May 23, 2018, 08:27:54 am »
For those who have issues with the OS update:

Did you make sure the 4 files match the screenshot in the update instructions?

With the USB stick plugged in, if you go to any save/load/update function, are the files on the stick properly displayed on the scope?


EDIT: Attached a screenshot of the System Status display on my scope after the update.

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #698 on: May 23, 2018, 08:44:36 am »
Any ideas why it won't pick up the OS update during bootup?  I've tried having the usb stick in the front and back ports when I power on.  The files were in the root directory with nothing else on the drive.

1. Try to format the stick on Linux just to be totally sure.

2. Have you tried plugin in the stick after scope boot?

I know it's not what the manual says but it was the only way I managed to upgrade my DS1052E...
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #699 on: May 23, 2018, 09:11:53 am »
For those who have issues with the OS update:

Did you make sure the 4 files match the screenshot in the update instructions?

With the USB stick plugged in, if you go to any save/load/update function, are the files on the stick properly displayed on the scope?

The 4 files match in name, timestamp, and file size as those shown in the instructions pdf file.

Also, I can save screenshots to the usb stick while it's plugged in with the 'Print' button, and see the file system (for example when I installed the firmware).  See attached screenshot showing the 4 files, and the folder holding the screenshots that was created automatically.

Hitting the 'Print' button while in the System Status page won't take a screenshot for me on the device (nothing happens), but the Software Version is as shown in my previous post, and my Hardware Version is "01-03".


1. Try to format the stick on Linux just to be totally sure.

2. Have you tried plugin in the stick after scope boot?

I know it's not what the manual says but it was the only way I managed to upgrade my DS1052E...

I only have Windows available at the moment, so I can't try formatting through linux. Sorry!  It is an 8GB drive formatted as Fat32.

I've tried inserting the usb stick while the scope was powered off, and also while it was on and then rebooting it.  Same result either way for the OS not installing.  The firmware installed fine through the normal Utility menu on the scope.
 


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