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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1425 on: July 20, 2019, 08:14:04 pm »
Maybe even disable the ethernet on the scope (and reboot).
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1426 on: July 20, 2019, 08:34:36 pm »
TK,

Scope Static IP is set to 192.168.1.212 and the router IP is set to 192.168.1.1  I have the DHCP range set in the router to 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.199 and use 192.168.1.200+ for static IP's

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The scope will have two ip addresses, one for wifi and one for ethernet. Just to be on the safe side I would make them different, whether the ethernet cable is connected or not.

You shouldn't have both scope's WIFI and ETH addresses in the same network, if both are enabled.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1427 on: July 20, 2019, 08:41:55 pm »
TK,

Scope Static IP is set to 192.168.1.212 and the router IP is set to 192.168.1.1  I have the DHCP range set in the router to 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.199 and use 192.168.1.200+ for static IP's

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The scope will have two ip addresses, one for wifi and one for ethernet. Just to be on the safe side I would make them different, whether the ethernet cable is connected or not.

You shouldn't have both scope's WIFI and ETH addresses in the same network, if both are enabled.
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it receives the ping packet but then doesn't know which interface to use to reply... but is there any way to disable one interface?
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1428 on: July 20, 2019, 08:52:00 pm »
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it receives the ping packet but then doesn't know which interface to use to reply... but is there any way to disable one interface?

The wifi for sure, just don't insert it. :)

 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1429 on: July 20, 2019, 09:33:18 pm »
TK,

Scope Static IP is set to 192.168.1.212 and the router IP is set to 192.168.1.1  I have the DHCP range set in the router to 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.199 and use 192.168.1.200+ for static IP's

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The scope will have two ip addresses, one for wifi and one for ethernet. Just to be on the safe side I would make them different, whether the ethernet cable is connected or not.

You shouldn't have both scope's WIFI and ETH addresses in the same network, if both are enabled.
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it receives the ping packet but then doesn't know which interface to use to reply... but is there any way to disable one interface?
Each interface should have it's own ip-address so who would return should not be a problem. How ever I think implementing "services" on multiple interfaces is not trivial. So I can imagine only one (primary) interface get the services behind them. Maybe the first that gets an IP address, hence the difference between dhcp/static. But thats guessing, with a perfect implementation both interfaces could be used.

However I even experienced issues using only ethernet, like a SCPI session that gets broken, when using the web service simultaneously. (Solution: close the web-page)
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1430 on: July 20, 2019, 09:48:15 pm »
Each interface should have it's own ip-address so who would return should not be a problem. How ever I think implementing "services" on multiple interfaces is not trivial. So I can imagine only one (primary) interface get the services behind them. Maybe the first that gets an IP address, hence the difference between dhcp/static. But thats guessing, with a perfect implementation both interfaces could be used.

However I even experienced issues using only ethernet, like a SCPI session that gets broken, when using the web service simultaneously. (Solution: close the web-page)

As you say, all depends on the services/app running in the scope. I don't believe Siglent would go to the effort of devising such a thing just because someone wants to use both interfaces in the same network.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1431 on: July 20, 2019, 10:07:39 pm »
Each interface should have it's own ip-address so who would return should not be a problem. How ever I think implementing "services" on multiple interfaces is not trivial. So I can imagine only one (primary) interface get the services behind them. Maybe the first that gets an IP address, hence the difference between dhcp/static. But thats guessing, with a perfect implementation both interfaces could be used.

However I even experienced issues using only ethernet, like a SCPI session that gets broken, when using the web service simultaneously. (Solution: close the web-page)

As you say, all depends on the services/app running in the scope. I don't believe Siglent would go to the effort of devising such a thing just because someone wants to use both interfaces in the same network.
But it would be nice the UI would give insight in what interface is active, or let the user select one.  :-+
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1432 on: July 20, 2019, 10:58:59 pm »
But it would be nice the UI would give insight in what interface is active, or let the user select one.  :-+
It does and always has.
Bottom right corner of the display shows when LAN or WiFi is selected and if they each are active.
The WiFi signal strength indicator will be grey'ed out when out of range and the LAN indicator shows a small red x when not connected.
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1433 on: July 20, 2019, 11:26:57 pm »
But it would be nice the UI would give insight in what interface is active, or let the user select one.  :-+
It does and always has.
Bottom right corner of the display shows when LAN or WiFi is selected and if they each are active.
The WiFi signal strength indicator will be grey'ed out when out of range and the LAN indicator shows a small red x when not connected.
I don't have the adapter and I won't get one either. Happy with ethernet. But I can imagine it doesn't show which of the interface actually works. (Assuming only one can)
Having an extra indication and a guide in the manual to solve the above issue would be  :-+
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1434 on: July 20, 2019, 11:29:53 pm »
I think I figured out what my issue is. I have a router and access point using the same SSID and the scope does not like seeing two of the same SSID. All of my other wireless devices on the network has no issues with two of the same SSID. If I power off the access point the scope has no issues.

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1435 on: July 20, 2019, 11:41:09 pm »
But it would be nice the UI would give insight in what interface is active, or let the user select one.  :-+
It does and always has.
Bottom right corner of the display shows when LAN or WiFi is selected and if they each are active.
The WiFi signal strength indicator will be grey'ed out when out of range and the LAN indicator shows a small red x when not connected.
I don't have the adapter and I won't get one either. Happy with ethernet. But I can imagine it doesn't show which of the interface actually works. (Assuming only one can)
It shows one or the other, only the active one (one selected) not both.
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Having an extra indication and a guide in the manual to solve the above issue would be  :-+
Yep the manual should show the WiFi indicator as a example for users and I'll ask Siglent to include this in their next manual update.

This screenshot shows the WiFi ON but the signal indication is greyed out due to being out of range from my WiFi connection. (in another building)
Seen next to the USB drive indication.


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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1436 on: July 20, 2019, 11:43:58 pm »
Good that you found the issue  :-+

Also  :-+ for the good indication of what's active.
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1437 on: July 20, 2019, 11:49:14 pm »
Good that you found the issue  :-+

Also  :-+ for the good indication of what's active.
Well when I looked back it had linked.

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1438 on: July 21, 2019, 05:33:58 pm »
I think I figured out what my issue is. I have a router and access point using the same SSID and the scope does not like seeing two of the same SSID. All of my other wireless devices on the network has no issues with two of the same SSID. If I power off the access point the scope has no issues.

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I was able to get the scope to work with both the router and access point power up and using the same SSID. The original settings had the access point using channel 4 (the weaker signal for the scope) and the router using channel 11 (the stronger signal for the scope). To get the scope working I changed the channel setting for the router to channel 1 (so the scope uses this channel first) and the access point to channel 6.

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1439 on: July 21, 2019, 06:00:33 pm »
While trouble shooting my wireless connection issue I found something interesting. If you have the scope set for a wireless connection and using a static IP it also gets a DHCP IP. See photos below, scope is set to a static IP of 192.168.1.212 also the scope is getting a DHCP IP of 192.168.1.168.

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1440 on: July 21, 2019, 06:57:36 pm »
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Why do you think IP 192.168.1.168 is scope? 
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1441 on: July 21, 2019, 07:04:24 pm »
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Why do you think IP 192.168.1.168 is scope?

Look at the IP at the top of the photo and in the LAN Configuration.
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1442 on: July 21, 2019, 07:15:54 pm »
But you are using ETH and WIFI, right?
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1443 on: July 21, 2019, 07:24:45 pm »
While trouble shooting my wireless connection issue I found something interesting. If you have the scope set for a wireless connection and using a static IP it also gets a DHCP IP. See photos below, scope is set to a static IP of 192.168.1.212 also the scope is getting a DHCP IP of 192.168.1.168.

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That page is for the LAN config, which is the ethernet cable. the 168 address will be for your WiFi, therefore 2 addresses.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1444 on: July 21, 2019, 07:25:56 pm »
No, just WiFi, the Ethernet is not connected
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1445 on: July 21, 2019, 07:27:00 pm »
When I was playing around checking the scope’s WiFi vs Ethernet capabilities, I seem to recall discovering that you could only ever have one or the other active, and I had to use different IP addresses for each.

This may have changed with the latest firmware, but worth checking out.

The remote response on the browser was always so much better over Ethernet, I only rarely use WiFi.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1446 on: July 21, 2019, 07:27:20 pm »
No, just WiFi, the Ethernet is not connected

Hmm, indeed very odd.  :-//
 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1447 on: July 21, 2019, 07:28:06 pm »
No, just WiFi, the Ethernet is not connected
Yep, cause you have static settings for each.
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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1448 on: July 21, 2019, 07:35:32 pm »
I have only the WiFi enabled set to a static IP of 192.168.1.212 and no Ethernet cable connected. With this setup I can ping both IP 192.168.1.212 and 192.168.1.168 also I can navigate to both IP's with a Web Browser.

 

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Re: Siglent SDS1104X-E and SDS1204X-E Mixed Signal Oscilloscopes
« Reply #1449 on: July 21, 2019, 07:39:48 pm »
Based on your last info, my only conclusion is that the scope must be routing the IP packets between both IP stacks internally.

If you get me a 3rd IP than I'll be amazed!!!  :-DD
 


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