Siglent SDS2000X HD, 12bit, 2GSa/s high definition oscilloscope serie.

[tautech]

Hello all,

I have an opportunity to get a used SDS2104X-HD but I ask me some question before to decide.
It is sold in very good condition, but without the logic probe included.
So I will need to spend 500€ more to get it.
So the first question is what would be is a fair price for the unit ?

I also seen that comparing to the SDS2104X+, the waveform update rate with logical probe signals is drastically low.
Does this issues has been confirmed here ?
If yes, does it has been solved in newer firmware revision ?

I thank you in advance answers from owners of the beast !
Regards.

Frex

FYI
RRP when these were available was $ 1899 USD

[Frex]

Thank's Tautech.
I assume that it's VAT free.
It seem too that a bundle with logic probe was available
some month ago at very competitive price...

About the logic analyzer update rate issue, no users feedback ?
Regards.

Frex

[KungFuJosh]

About the logic analyzer update rate issue, no users feedback ?
Regards.

I did the full Batronix MSO test board test series with both the Plus and HD model. At no point did I think anything on the HD was as slow as the Plus model. I didn't time anything though, so take that for what it's worth.

[KungFuJosh]

I got the TLV5103 in. Is this defective, or something in my setup making that happen?

I've got a 200mVpp 500kHz sine coming from the SDG2122X to the board, which is powered at 5.5V by the SPD3303X. Then it's off to the SDS2504X HD.

There is a BNC to SMA adapter on the input.

[Tjuurko]

I got the TLV5103 in. Is this defective, or something in my setup making that happen?

Perhaps you need to change DC1M -> DC50

[KungFuJosh]

Perhaps you need to change DC1M -> DC50

Nice catch, thanks.

This module is...interesting.

[Martin72]

Can you show the risetime pls ?

[Grandchuck]

The manual states: "Color grade uses color temperature to map the probability of the waveforms. The greater the probability that the waveform appears in a pixel, the warmer the color of the pixel. The smaller probability, the colder the color temperature of that pixel."

I seem to be getting the opposite?

EasyWaveX: 2*exp(-4*x)*sin(24*pi*x)

[2N3055]

The manual states: "Color grade uses color temperature to map the probability of the waveforms. The greater the probability that the waveform appears in a pixel, the warmer the color of the pixel. The smaller probability, the colder the color temperature of that pixel."

I seem to be getting the opposite?

EasyWaveX: 2*exp(-4*x)*sin(24*pi*x)

In the end it is all about sample density at single pixel.
40000 samples are visually compressed on 1024x600 pixels.

Where signal is changing slowly you get many samples compressed horizontaly in same pixel.
If signal has fast edges, it gets ploted spread out in vertical too.

Put fast edge squarewave in input.
Vertical edges can be just few samples verticaly. They will be thin and very faint. Tops and bottom of signal will be thick and  bright..

[tv84]

Understanding Kelvin and LED Light Color Temperatures

[Grandchuck]

OK  So at the left edge of the screen, the pixel to pixel change rate is greatest so the probability is the lowest?

[KungFuJosh]

Can you show the risetime pls ?

[2N3055]

OK  So at the left edge of the screen, the pixel to pixel change rate is greatest so the probability is the lowest?

Something like that. Fast changing signal with large amplitude will spread samples across the screen sparsely instead of all the samples landing in small, dense area.
If you disable color, same will be with brightness of trace in certain parts.

[KungFuJosh]

I tried getting another TLV3501 from Amazon and it was also defective lol. Had a bad connector for + in. - in still had the same ringing, so I screwed around with my original TLV3501 some more.

[egonotto]

Hello,

today (14.12.2024 German time) the Siglent SDS2204X HD is 10% cheaper at Batronix. Today it costs € 2,441.88 incl. 19% VAT.

Best regards
egonotto