Siglent SDS2000X HD, missing Features and Bugs

[2N3055]

Drop down that Mode menu..

You will have a choice of  Manual, Track and Measure..
Measure works together with, well, Measurements.
Which means you need to enable some measurements first, and then chose which one will be connected with cursors.

Aaaaah- got it (the penny has dropped)

I figured it out - but its only working with custom measurements, and the activated universal knob is still adjusting the screen brightness

To defend myself - the manual is not really clear about this topic...

Thanks for your help!!

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You have to make sure that topic you want to adjust with knob is selected in menu.

What do you mean by custom measurements?

[Ulrich.G]

You have to make sure that topic you want to adjust with knob is selected in menu.

Right, otherwise the cursor(s) would not show anything. As you can see on the attached screenshot, the cursors are attached to the period measurement of channel 1. When turning the knob, the intensity is adjusted.

What do you mean by custom measurements?

The Measurement menu offers Basic and Custom measurements, only when I choose Custom - the Cursors Measure Item box shows the available measurements.

[JBK]

Just purchased a Siglent SDS2104X HD from TEquipment.com thanks to this forum. This is my first scope. It should arrive sometime next week. Is there an owners thread for the SDS2000X HD series?

[Martin72]

Hi,
Yes, two...This one here and the other:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds2000x-hd-12bit-(published-for-chinese-domestic-market-only)/msg3932408/#msg3932408

[Performa01]

Maybe a bug:

FFT, tracecolour is red, when in split mode, tracecolour is pink....

Edit:

When you have a closer look to the pics in the link, there´s some pink in it, somekind of "overlay"...is it a kind of "integrated color-grading" ?

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/comparison-between-siglent-sdg1000x-and-2000x/msg4602865/#msg4602865

Well, the time domain representation got the color of the corresponding input channel (Ch. 2) whereas the math trace got the color of the corresponding math channel (F 1). They both happen to appear somewhat similar, but nothing out of the ordinary

[Martin72]

Hi,
When I select the color red for F1, I expect F1 to be displayed in red and not in pink (while the axes label is displayed in red).

[Martin72]

I have a suspicion that I will investigate today.

Nothing, leaving the scope on for hours (warming up) doesn´t have any effect.
After self-calibration a few hours ago, it still works normally.
I mean, when you got a little bit offset on a channel you use self-cal to minimize it, but this ?!
Well, it is what it is and now it´s fine.
Hm.

Martin

After another owner had the same problem, and he even had to do the self-calibration more often, it is worth keeping an eye on...

[temperance]

SPI bus decoding doesn't work properly.

0x44 is decoded as 0x45 and 0x00 as 0x01. It seems a one is added at the end because the SPI MOSI is high when idle.

Me bad, it does work. The various options to select the phase and edges are under the trigger menu...

[tautech]

Try using the Clk Sense for the trigger channel.
Unusual some waveforms are Idle High but not all. 

[temperance]

Thanks, I got it working now. The various trigger options are located under the trigger button. I edited me original post to which now reflects my own stupidity.

[tautech]

The various trigger options are located under the trigger button.

Yes but how you configure decoding is more important.
All you need for simple decoding is to get the edge set correctly on the correct trace and Holdoff to prevent retriggering until after the largest byte. Without a CLK we would use the CS.
We can work through this more if you wish but in the HD thread.

[temperance]

Thank you for the offer, I found out how it works and the displayed numbers agree with what's being sent.

Meanwhile I've been reading the manual.

[Martin72]

IMHO a bug:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds2000x-hd-12bit-(published-for-chinese-domestic-market-only)/msg4632094/#msg4632094

When zoom mode is active, changes in channelsetting won´t be refreshed in the infobox.
(Example infobox shows 10V/div and won´t change, even when you set the vertical down to say 2V/div.(on screen display).

[Performa01]

IMHO a bug:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds2000x-hd-12bit-(published-for-chinese-domestic-market-only)/msg4632094/#msg4632094

When zoom mode is active, changes in channelsetting won´t be refreshed in the infobox.
(Example infobox shows 10V/div and won´t change, even when you set the vertical down to say 2V/div.(on screen display).

Sorry, but I cannot see any anomalies here.

What I can see in your linked screenshot are the following settings (correctly displayed in their respective places):

Main Window:
Timebase: 20.0 ms/div, 2.79 ms offset
Ch.2: 1x 200 mV/div, 0.00V offset
Ch.4: 10x 2.00 V/div, 0.00V offset

Zoom Window:
Timebase: 200 µs/div, 2.694 ms offset
Ch.2: 100 mV/div, 0.00V offset
Ch.4: 1.00 V/div, 0.00V offset

The measurement doesn't tell its source, but I suspect it's still taken from the main window. If you want it to be specifically from the zoom window, then you have to specify the zoom trace Z as measurement source. And - the next trap for youngplayers - any RMS measurement on the zoome trace will give false results except when the period of the signal is an integer fraction of the screen width (seems to be the case in your screenshot). RMS is good for long captures with many periods, but dangerous otherwise. Use Cycle-RMS when in doubt.

[Martin72]

Hi,
The pic in the post doesn't show it.
I'll make a short video from it, at the evening.
The reading was taken at random, had no other meaning/intention.

[danils]

Well, just a personal thought:

I'd enlarge the scroll bar on the right side menu.
Actually it's barely visible and almost impossible to grab using mouse...

[kripton2035]

Well, just a personal thought:

I'd enlarge the scroll bar on the right side menu.
Actually it's barely visible and almost impossible to grab using mouse...

or allow the scroll using the mouse wheel when the mouse is over the menu ?
it would leave space, and still allow to scroll the menu.

[rf-loop]

Well, just a personal thought:

I'd enlarge the scroll bar on the right side menu.
Actually it's barely visible and almost impossible to grab using mouse...

or allow the scroll using the mouse wheel when the mouse is over the menu ?
it would leave space, and still allow to scroll the menu.

With mouse it is not nessessary to use this scroll bar at all. It is only information for your eyes. Just position mouse to what ever place on side menu, and drag with the mouse left button pressed.
Just same as you do without mouse with finger (somehow same kind of logic, finger press (touch) screen and drag. With mouse, finger touched (pressed) left button and drag moving mouse.

Still I hope Siglent think again what is right place for "return" button in menu. My opinion is that it need be visible always so that if I open what ever menu  and if want return to previous menu no need scroll for find return button.

Sidenote / cannot be done with the mouse wheel. There need do redesign so many things if do this. Now with mouse + left button it works well.
The mouse wheel has another important function in menus and should not be interfered with in any way. Namely, if we use the scroll to move the menu, what about when the cursor hits the field during the move where we use the scroll to change the numeric value. The result was a complete mess.

[Martin72]

IMHO a bug:
When zoom mode is active, changes in channelsetting won´t be refreshed in the infobox.
(Example infobox shows 10V/div and won´t change, even when you set the vertical down to say 2V/div.(on screen display).

This is not correct what I´ve written.
When in zoom mode, you can´t change the main setting on the channel as I wanted to do yesterday.
Channelbutton is highlighted, channel infobox is highlighted but this means only that you now change something in the zoom of this channel.
So no bug, but irritating (because by highlighting the channel you think you can now set something on the channel itself, as is otherwise the case).

[2N3055]

IMHO a bug:
When zoom mode is active, changes in channelsetting won´t be refreshed in the infobox.
(Example infobox shows 10V/div and won´t change, even when you set the vertical down to say 2V/div.(on screen display).

This is not correct what I´ve written.
When in zoom mode, you can´t change the main setting on the channel as I wanted to do yesterday.
Channelbutton is highlighted, channel infobox is highlighted but this means only that you now change something in the zoom of this channel.
So no bug, but irritating (because by highlighting the channel you think you can now set something on the channel itself, as is otherwise the case).

Martin,

if you are in a zoom mode, you can tap with finger in upper portion of screen (that shows full channel data ) and you will control channel directly. If you tap zoomed portion, you control zoomed view. So:
1.Select channel
2. Tap the inside top window  or zoomed portion window
3. set Vertical with knob for the item in question..

Also tapping on shown V/div for zoom or channels  selects and calls up respective window. THere is also zoomed timebase dialog

[Ulrich.G]

Hello,

I have not been able to reproduce it, but about a handful of times during the last 6 weeks, the scope has frozen while the screensaver was active. Last night it happened, when I stick in a memory stick into the front usb port. Anybody experienced simillar?


Best regards - Ulrich

[tautech]

Hello,

I have not been able to reproduce it, but about a handful of times during the last 6 weeks, the scope has frozen while the screensaver was active. Last night it happened, when I stick in a memory stick into the front usb port. Anybody experienced simillar?


Best regards - Ulrich

We need know firmware version, USB stick brand, size and format type.

[Ulrich.G]

We need know firmware version, USB stick brand, size and format type.

Scope FW is 1.2.1.1

USB Stick is a SanDisk Ultra Fit USB 3.1 Flash Drive - 64GB

Just reproduced it : Remove the stick, wait until the screensaver comes up, stick the memory stick in - scope freezes

[2N3055]

We need know firmware version, USB stick brand, size and format type.

Scope FW is 1.2.1.1

USB Stick is a SanDisk Ultra Fit USB 3.1 Flash Drive - 64GB

Just reproduced it : Remove the stick, wait until the screensaver comes up, stick the memory stick in - scope freezes

Format?

With Sandisk extreme 32GB I cannot reproduce.. FAT32, 16K sectors

[Ulrich.G]

Format?

With Sandisk extreme 32GB I cannot reproduce.. FAT32, 16K sectors

That might be the problem for USB sticks >32GB, with a size of 64GB its formated as exFAT?(I didn't check when I bought it)

Reformatted the stick with NTFS, seems working now...


Thanks for checking.