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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #2025 on: October 02, 2020, 11:12:57 pm »
How would you feel if you purchased this scope a couple of weeks back with options, and discover it is now $1000.. $1500 cheaper ?

Ask my sales rep for the discount :)  Or make them do a hardware swap ;)
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #2026 on: October 02, 2020, 11:38:45 pm »
Typically when that situation arises I ask if they're just going to refund me the difference or if I need to return and buy another.
 
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #2027 on: October 03, 2020, 06:59:08 am »
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But with a nice little email, I always managed to get the promotion

It´s always better to talk to the sales manager in case of special offers, apart from any promo thing...
The WS3024 from lecroy we bought by R+S, plus decoding options for appx 1000 bucks additional.
As "our" salesmanager from lecroy heard about it, he told us we are stupid, why we didn´t ask him, he would gave us the options for free.. :(
A year later, we wanted to have at least two "big" scopes from lecroy and remembering his words.
So we got an HDO6034A with decoding and power analyzis options and an Waverunner 9054 with the same options for totally 42% off... 8)
Wish I had a sales manger when I bought my SDS2104X+.... ;)
Or for the 5000.... :-X :D

Well, negotiations are much easier when you have a long sales record with your distributor ;)
Everybody likes gadgets. Until they try to make them.
 
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #2028 on: October 03, 2020, 08:42:10 pm »
So batronix should give me one by the next buy... 8)

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #2029 on: October 09, 2020, 04:29:06 am »
Hello,
what is your experience with Power Analysis with an oscilloscope? Since Siglent has prepared this promotion, I am thinking of purchasing a Power analysis deskew fixture DF2001A. I have current probe. I would like to measure both low power equipment in stand by mode and my own build DC / DC buck- boost power supplies up to 24V / 10 A.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #2030 on: October 09, 2020, 09:25:44 am »
Hello,
what is your experience with Power Analysis with an oscilloscope? Since Siglent has prepared this promotion, I am thinking of purchasing a Power analysis deskew fixture DF2001A. I have current probe. I would like to measure both low power equipment in stand by mode and my own build DC / DC buck- boost power supplies up to 24V / 10 A.
Quick look at PA here but there have been FW updates since and another expected soon:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds2000x-plus-coming/msg2962950/#msg2962950

Using the deskew fixture allows for auto deskew which is a nice feature.
Deskew fixture discussion starts here when Martin gets one:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds2000x-plus-coming/msg3125678/#msg3125678
A little while later mine arrives:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds2000x-plus-coming/msg3137612/#msg3137612
Then later I do some mods to it:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds2000x-plus-coming/msg3151112/#msg3151112

About 10 pages of this thread covers the deskew fixture.
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #2031 on: October 09, 2020, 11:13:49 am »
Thanks!
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #2032 on: October 29, 2020, 10:22:11 am »
Did someone recently get a SDS2104XP and try to mod it to 500MHz ? Did it work ? Wondering if they still have two HW revisions or not
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #2033 on: October 29, 2020, 10:26:55 am »
Wondering if they still have two HW revisions or not
They never had.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #2034 on: October 29, 2020, 11:35:58 am »
Wondering if they still have two HW revisions or not
They never had.

So the 100MHz can be upgraded to 500 ? For some reason I thought only the 350MHz could be upgraded to 500
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #2035 on: October 29, 2020, 12:09:17 pm »
Wondering if they still have two HW revisions or not
They never had.

So the 100MHz can be upgraded to 500 ? For some reason I thought only the 350MHz could be upgraded to 500
Thanks

IME, yes, but keep in mind that you should make sure it’s sampling at 2GSa/s to avoid significant high frequency  aliasing artefacts. You’re limited to two channels to achieve 2GSa/s in the four channel unit.
 
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #2036 on: November 01, 2020, 09:13:35 pm »
Did someone recently get a SDS2104XP and try to mod it to 500MHz ? Did it work ? Wondering if they still have two HW revisions or not

I have a fresh unit (received: october 20th), I did mode it to 500 MHz, but it worked in steps from 200, 350 to 500 MHz.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #2037 on: November 01, 2020, 09:25:55 pm »
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IME, yes, but keep in mind that you should make sure it’s sampling at 2GSa/s to avoid significant high frequency  aliasing artefacts. You’re limited to two channels to achieve 2GSa/s in the four channel unit.

Which was already explained in the manual...

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I did mode it to 500 MHz, but it worked in steps from 200, 350 to 500 MHz.

Hm ?

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #2038 on: November 02, 2020, 05:01:07 am »
he certainly did not do it via SCPI, if you enter the keys via the menu, you have to enter the key from 100 -> 200Mhz, 200->350Mhz and 350-> 500Mhz
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #2039 on: November 03, 2020, 04:31:58 am »
 I did the upgrade hack via the licence key route. Going from a 2104 to a 2504 means you get to experience three times as much of the thrill of a BW upgrade as you do using the SCPI command method. :)

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #2040 on: November 03, 2020, 09:15:56 pm »
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IME, yes, but keep in mind that you should make sure it’s sampling at 2GSa/s to avoid significant high frequency  aliasing artefacts. You’re limited to two channels to achieve 2GSa/s in the four channel unit.

Which was already explained in the manual...

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I did mode it to 500 MHz, but it worked in steps from 200, 350 to 500 MHz.

Hm ?

What I meant was that the unlock code for 500 MHz BW didn't work from the begining, I had to enter the code for 200 MHz BW, then for 350 MHz BW and, in the end, the code for 500 MHz BW.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #2041 on: November 03, 2020, 09:24:52 pm »
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IME, yes, but keep in mind that you should make sure it’s sampling at 2GSa/s to avoid significant high frequency  aliasing artefacts. You’re limited to two channels to achieve 2GSa/s in the four channel unit.

Which was already explained in the manual...

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I did mode it to 500 MHz, but it worked in steps from 200, 350 to 500 MHz.

Hm ?

What I meant was that the unlock code for 500 MHz BW didn't work from the begining, I had to enter the code for 200 MHz BW, then for 350 MHz BW and, in the end, the code for 500 MHz BW.
Yes normal.
The upgrade path to 500 MHz is only from 350 MHz.

Study the website BW options and this is very clear:
https://www.siglenteu.com/accessory/bandwidth-upgrade-350-to-500-mhz-4-channel-models/

100 and 200 MHz to 500 MHz BW upgrade paths do not exist within the Option UI however AFAIK you can go straight to 500 MHz using SCPI commands.
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #2042 on: November 03, 2020, 10:44:20 pm »
Again, Lecroy took the best of siglent in it´s portfolio:

http://cdn.teledynelecroy.com/files/pdf/t3dso2000a-datasheet.pdf

The difference between appx 1400€ and 3100€ is a sticker:

https://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/teledyne-lecroy/T3DSO2104A/1133-T3DSO2104A-ND/12756289

 :-DD ::)

Edit: It seems, that all options are included in this price..
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #2043 on: November 03, 2020, 11:27:00 pm »
Edit: It seems, that all options are included in this price..
All options but MSO are currently included from Siglent.
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #2044 on: November 03, 2020, 11:32:10 pm »
Ah,

But in general I find it somekind of "funny", lecroy don´t disguise it that much where it originally came from - Just a sticker..

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #2045 on: November 04, 2020, 10:15:55 am »
It's normally on build in generator sqare wave? 10MHz ... :-DD
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #2046 on: November 04, 2020, 10:19:38 am »
With the probe set to 1X, yes ...
But even with proper probing, it's not going to be much better.
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #2047 on: November 04, 2020, 10:24:55 am »
Yep it's not a 10k USD TEK  :-\
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #2048 on: November 04, 2020, 11:05:36 am »
Again, Lecroy took the best of siglent in it´s portfolio:

http://cdn.teledynelecroy.com/files/pdf/t3dso2000a-datasheet.pdf

The difference between appx 1400€ and 3100€ is a sticker:

https://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/teledyne-lecroy/T3DSO2104A/1133-T3DSO2104A-ND/12756289

 :-DD ::)

Edit: It seems, that all options are included in this price..

Nicely done  :palm:

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #2049 on: November 04, 2020, 05:18:28 pm »
Again, Lecroy took the best of siglent in it´s portfolio:

http://cdn.teledynelecroy.com/files/pdf/t3dso2000a-datasheet.pdf

The difference between appx 1400€ and 3100€ is a sticker:

https://www.digikey.de/product-detail/de/teledyne-lecroy/T3DSO2104A/1133-T3DSO2104A-ND/12756289

 :-DD ::)

Edit: It seems, that all options are included in this price..

I wonder if LeCroy are doing the QA for Siglent? I’ve been surprised how relatively mature the firmware is.
 


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