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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4451 on: April 03, 2024, 06:02:00 pm »
All.
We are successfully recovering these boot freezes and successfully reinstalling the latest V1.6.2R1 firmware.

V1.6.2R1 has been pulled from websites.

My scope is also dead after firmware update to V1.6.2R1.

What should I do to restore it? A PM is sent, thanks!

P.S. This FW has also been removed from the Chinese official website.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4452 on: April 03, 2024, 06:59:58 pm »
All.
We are successfully recovering these boot freezes and successfully reinstalling the latest V1.6.2R1 firmware.

V1.6.2R1 has been pulled from websites.
Great!
But how to do that?
Contact me via PM with your email.
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4453 on: April 03, 2024, 07:13:57 pm »
Just reported to Siglent with urgency.
Currently I'm doing tests......Please be aware after this V1.6.2R1 installation first boot time will be 2+ minutes.....be patient.

It installed OK here from a USB stick. I was running the previous "latest" version. Scope is Uboot 5.4.0 and my hwd version is 05-05.

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4454 on: April 03, 2024, 07:34:26 pm »
Boot time has increased significantly in 1.6.2. Previously it was about 45 seconds, now it is approximately 70 seconds. The execution time of the "Default setup" function has also increased significantly.
The installation was completed without any problems.
« Last Edit: April 03, 2024, 07:36:07 pm by maxspb69 »
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4455 on: April 03, 2024, 07:39:34 pm »
What was new in this FW version? It has been taken down from the web therefore release notes are not available. I am just curious.

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4456 on: April 03, 2024, 07:40:45 pm »
The bug with probe ratio detection after "Default setup" is not fixed, you have to disconnect and connect  probe for correct  ratio.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4457 on: April 03, 2024, 07:44:16 pm »
What was new in this FW version? It has been taken down from the web therefore release notes are not available. I am just curious.
See Release notes here:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds2000x-plus-bugs-missing-features-feature-requests/msg5426906/#msg5426906
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4458 on: April 03, 2024, 07:51:04 pm »
It installed OK here from a USB stick. I was running the previous "latest" version. Scope is Uboot 5.4.0 and my hwd version is 05-05.
WoD

I updated the FW (SDS2000X+_1.6.2R1.ADS) without any problems using a USB stick. The last FW was 1.5.2R3.
Uboot-OS Version: 5.0.0
Hardware Version:  02-04
Local Drive: 68.4M/73.8M

Hope that helps.
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4459 on: April 03, 2024, 07:57:25 pm »
It installed OK here from a USB stick. I was running the previous "latest" version. Scope is Uboot 5.4.0 and my hwd version is 05-05.
WoD

I updated the FW (SDS2000X+_1.6.2R1.ADS) without any problems using a USB stick. The last FW was 1.5.2R3.
Uboot-OS Version: 5.0.0
Hardware Version:  02-04
Local Drive: 68.4M/73.8M

Hope that helps.
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4460 on: April 03, 2024, 08:02:21 pm »
The bug with probe ratio detection after "Default setup" is not fixed, you have to disconnect and connect  probe for correct  ratio.

You could try the following:
Connect 2 probes with auto-sense, e.g. ch1 and ch2.
Call up the decode menu, select a decoder, e.g. I²C.
Assign SDA and SCL to the channels, set the thresholds to say 1.6V, then exit the menu.
Restart the scope, go back to the decoder menu and check whether the thresholds have remained at 1.6V.

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4461 on: April 03, 2024, 08:42:57 pm »
When the scope is first loaded or restarted, probes are detected correctly.
The error occurs when pressing the "Default" button (or select "Default setup" from menu) only.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4462 on: April 03, 2024, 08:43:05 pm »
Updated to 1.6.2R1 successfully.
 
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4463 on: April 03, 2024, 08:54:43 pm »
When the scope is first loaded or restarted, probes are detected correctly.
The error occurs when pressing the "Default" button (or select "Default setup" from menu) only.

OK, that means you have tested my suggestion.
Then something has already been fixed in that direction, because that was a point that clearly went to the bug with the auto-sense.
Because after a restart the thresholds were adjusted, this did not happen when using probes without auto-sense.
The same applied to the Bode plot when you left it again.

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4464 on: April 03, 2024, 09:11:57 pm »
The same applied to the Bode plot when you left it again.

Exactly!
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4465 on: April 04, 2024, 12:29:32 pm »
You could try the following:
Connect 2 probes with auto-sense, e.g. ch1 and ch2.
Call up the decode menu, select a decoder, e.g. I²C.
Assign SDA and SCL to the channels, set the thresholds to say 1.6V, then exit the menu.
Restart the scope, go back to the decoder menu and check whether the thresholds have remained at 1.6V.

FW 1.6.2R1
After a reboot auto-sense probes are detected correctly.
The threshold at CH1 (SCL) remains at 1.6V, while the threshold at CH2 (SDA) changes from 1.6V to 167mV.
I also noticed the same behavior after a shutdown and a restart.

After pressing the "Default" button, the auto-sense probes are no longer recognized. For channels 2, 3 and 4, unplugging and plugging in helps, but for channel 1, 10:1 must be set manually.

The following new behavior has been added: The "Hide Menu" time is reset to 5s. My default setting was 30s.
 
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4466 on: April 04, 2024, 10:34:49 pm »
Thanks to Tautech's help, my oscilloscope came to life. I installed the latest FW update. So far everything is working fine.  :-+
 
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4467 on: April 05, 2024, 02:54:33 am »
I updated to 1.6.2R1 two nights ago through USB with no issues. Had been on 1.5.2R1 before that.

Hardware Version: 02-04
Uboot-OS Version: 5.0
CPLD Version: 03
 
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4468 on: April 05, 2024, 01:00:55 pm »
Where can I find the latest firmware, V1.5 2R3 is the last one displayed for me
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4469 on: April 05, 2024, 01:17:23 pm »
It was pulled from the web due to several people bricking their scope during the update so there might be an issue with it.
I usually wait a while before updating, especially so if I don't have a real need to do it. In this case I jumped on it for no particullar reason but got away with it.
tautech has helped those on the forum who bricked their scopes to recover so it's not catatrophic but still...

If you REALLY want/need it someone (including me) can email it to you but if I were you I'd just wait for a new version to pop up the official way.
 
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4470 on: April 05, 2024, 01:52:55 pm »
If that's the case, I'd rather wait, thanks for the answer
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4471 on: April 05, 2024, 02:20:03 pm »
It was pulled from the web due to several people bricking their scope during the update so there might be an issue with it.
I usually wait a while before updating, especially so if I don't have a real need to do it. In this case I jumped on it for no particullar reason but got away with it.
tautech has helped those on the forum who bricked their scopes to recover so it's not catatrophic but still...

If you REALLY want/need it someone (including me) can email it to you but if I were you I'd just wait for a new version to pop up the official way.

In addition NEW bugs introduced as the Beta follower had other things to do and Siglents Quality Control is as ugly as it gets O:((

Also for this kind of release an very long ride. Look also on SDS2K plus bug thread.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4472 on: April 05, 2024, 02:25:54 pm »
Siglents Quality Control is as ugly as it gets O:((
I'd probably have to disagree with this.  I own 7 Siglent instruments and have no update issues or egregious bugs so far.  On the other hand I have had some pretty bad issues with all sorts of equipment from so called "top tier" manufacturers.  Except DEC.  Not saying they did not have issues, just that in decades of running their computers I never found any.  Maybe their attention to detail and quest for perfection is what eventually lead to their demise.

Siglent are better than most and no worse than many.
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4473 on: April 05, 2024, 03:14:56 pm »
In addition NEW bugs introduced as the Beta follower had other things to do and Siglents Quality Control is as ugly as it gets O:((

If you think Siglent's QC is 'as ugly as it gets,' you've lived a very limited/sheltered TE life. 🙄
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #4474 on: April 05, 2024, 07:51:02 pm »
Siglent could make it easy for itself and throw something on the market and then hardly care about it any more - sounds familiar, doesn't it...
Instead, improvements are constantly being made, even for devices in this price range plus additional new functions.
Instead of being happy that you can experience such support for the little money, some still complain.
For the cheapest "real" Lecroy, for example, you pay around 5000€.
And the device only has basic functions; additional options cost as much individually as an SDS2000Xplus.
In return, the A-brand makes you feel that you have bought the cheapest and makes you wait years for an overdue update because there are really bad bugs that should be fixed(personal experience).
And there's no mention of any additional features.
If you want more functionality, buy something new and bigger.
As I said, even the cheapest model at around €500 is still being improved, extended and listened to by buyers.
I know from our software programmers that they may have created a new "bug" while "slaying" an old one; you can't keep an eye on everything and/or test it 110% accurately.
That's why I'm relaxed about it, because the new bug will also be killed.
Especially as we're not talking about something that makes the device unusable until a new firmware is released.
That is also a bad habit here in the forum, regardless of the manufacturer.
People always act as if it's something really bad, which shows that some people have no idea about production processes.
For example, when we have completed a customer project, we have checked it completely and found no errors, everything is running well.
Then the customers come to inspect the appliance - and they approach the appliance in a completely different way to the builders.
And then there's a to-do list, often several pages long, with things that we didn't notice but the customer did, small bugs/errors, improvement requests, etc.
However, we are not blamed for this.
This is a completely normal process because both sides know that there is always something to improve/correct.
You can learn something from this professionalism:
Relaxation is sometimes the order of the day. ;)



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