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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #1200 on: May 31, 2020, 03:54:57 pm »
Yesterday purchased, I think in the forthcoming week.
I'm hoping for nice hires photo of the board.. :) 250€ is too much for my blood... It's a oscillator, mosfet, two resistors, and a pcb trace.
I was thinking also about a version with breakable loop for wired current sensors...

Great minds think alike ;)

https://www.siglenteu.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/DF2001A.jpg

Not the best photo but will get most of the board, whats really needed is a bom and its pretty evident its just a 2 layer board.. so just a front and back photo and then some with light going through to confirm

Thanks for that, I did find that one though, was hoping for a bit more detail..
It is 4 layer, for 8 turns on high current side..
I know exactly how switching side should look like, just wanted to look at loops in more detail, and see what they use for driving mosfets.

As I said, I'm interested in version that has breakable loop, for shunt and LEM and Sensitec type sensors that are not contactless.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #1201 on: May 31, 2020, 04:25:29 pm »
I'm hoping for nice hires photo of the board.. :)

Sure, sure, I´ll do... ;)

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250€ is too much for my blood... It's a oscillator, mosfet, two resistors, and a pcb trace.

Yes, it´s the same like the logic probes - But my curiosity was bigger then and so I "must" do it.

 
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #1202 on: June 02, 2020, 07:49:35 pm »
"An incredible powerful scope" :

Teardown by Dave

And yes, I also want a review.... 8)

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #1203 on: June 02, 2020, 08:13:00 pm »
I did a review and tear down on the SDS2104X Plus a couple of months ago.

#696 NEW Siglent SDS2104X Plus Touchscreen Oscilloscope Unboxing and First Look! - Part 1



#699 NEW Siglent SDS2104X Plus Oscilloscope - Review and Teardown
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #1204 on: June 02, 2020, 08:17:50 pm »
I just opened mine up as well and I think its safe to say they are all the same between the two of our 100s and Dave's 350 model

500Mhz+ frontends for everyone, its just a marketing stunt



 
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #1205 on: June 02, 2020, 08:19:21 pm »
And so we got a 500Mhz 4 ch scope for….less money, incredible less money. 8)

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #1206 on: June 02, 2020, 08:24:41 pm »
And so we got a 500Mhz 4 ch scope for….less money, incredible less money. 8)

It's not 500MHz on the 4 channels IIRC?
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #1207 on: June 02, 2020, 08:43:52 pm »
And so we got a 500Mhz 4 ch scope for….less money, incredible less money. 8)

It's not 500MHz on the 4 channels IIRC?
It is but breaks Nyquist without a single channel on each ADC.
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #1208 on: June 02, 2020, 08:56:41 pm »
Sry, I forgot this fact...

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #1209 on: June 02, 2020, 09:12:01 pm »
Not a big deal.
This does not detract from the fact that it is a good scope.
I fight every day with myself, several times a day, to NOT buy one  ;D
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #1210 on: June 02, 2020, 09:19:04 pm »
Do it, you won´t regret it...come to our side, we got cookies... ;D

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #1211 on: June 02, 2020, 09:29:22 pm »
I fight every day with myself, several times a day, to NOT buy one  ;D

STAY AWAY FROM THE LIGHT!!!
 
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #1212 on: June 02, 2020, 09:32:20 pm »
Not a big deal.
This does not detract from the fact that it is a good scope.
I fight every day with myself, several times a day, to NOT buy one  ;D
Let Dave have time to do a careful review and get to know this scope as this is no toy and takes a while to learn its feature set and capabilities.
Much like the SDS5kX it is more productive to use with a mouse which really supplements the touch and physical controls.
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #1213 on: June 02, 2020, 10:11:21 pm »
Not a big deal.
This does not detract from the fact that it is a good scope.
I fight every day with myself, several times a day, to NOT buy one  ;D
Let Dave have time to do a careful review and get to know this scope as this is no toy and takes a while to learn its feature set and capabilities.
Much like the SDS5kX it is more productive to use with a mouse which really supplements the touch and physical controls.


Man.. that mouse action with that new vertical menu combined with touch support!  And you can use the web portal JUST AS it where on the scope itself!

I feel like everything is in exactly the right place that just flows or close enough its found near by.. its a bounty of usefulness

btw.. I already used it to spy on the uart line of my ssa3k+ to confirm it was still alive after tv84 and I bricked it by running its drive space to 0 lol
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #1214 on: June 02, 2020, 10:25:58 pm »
I need a 2nd scope but I already have a Rigol MSO7000.
Im divided between keeping my Rigol for home and breaking the bank for a higher end, more polished scope like a R&S RTM3000/4000 or Lecroy 4024HD. Or be reasonable and buy myself this SDS2000X Plus for home.

I'm in no rush so I have time to think.
I don't have the money for a full option R&S or Lecroy....data to take into account  >:D
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #1215 on: June 02, 2020, 10:26:45 pm »
Do it, you won´t regret it...come to our side, we got cookies... ;D

Yes come!!  Major TEA party!  Haha

But yes only one channel per pair so you end up these pairs at 500Mhz

1+3
1+4
2+3
2+4

 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #1216 on: June 02, 2020, 10:31:28 pm »
Not a big deal.
This does not detract from the fact that it is a good scope.
I fight every day with myself, several times a day, to NOT buy one  ;D
Let Dave have time to do a careful review and get to know this scope as this is no toy and takes a while to learn its feature set and capabilities.
Much like the SDS5kX it is more productive to use with a mouse which really supplements the touch and physical controls.


Man.. that mouse action with that new vertical menu combined with touch support!  And you can use the web portal JUST AS it where on the scope itself!

I feel like everything is in exactly the right place that just flows or close enough its found near by.. its a bounty of usefulness
:)
They support USB keyboards too however I've not felt the need to go there as the virtual Querty keyboard is quite sufficient for normal use.
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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #1217 on: June 02, 2020, 10:35:32 pm »
I need a 2nd scope but I already have a Rigol MSO7000.
Im divided between keeping my Rigol for home and breaking the bank for a higher end, more polished scope like a R&S RTM3000/4000 or Lecroy 4024HD. Or be reasonable and buy myself this SDS2000X Plus for home.

Few people need to shell out a lot of coin for a high end scope for home. Use the money for something else, or save it.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #1218 on: June 02, 2020, 10:36:55 pm »
I need a 2nd scope but I already have a Rigol MSO7000.
Im divided between keeping my Rigol for home and breaking the bank for a higher end, more polished scope like a R&S RTM3000/4000 or Lecroy 4024HD. Or be reasonable and buy myself this SDS2000X Plus for home.

I'm in no rush so I have time to think.
I don't have the money for a full option R&S or Lecroy....data to take into account  >:D

Maybe it's better to wait for Sighound's MXR and then you'll have another one to think about!   :-DD
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #1219 on: June 02, 2020, 10:37:02 pm »
Not a big deal.
This does not detract from the fact that it is a good scope.
I fight every day with myself, several times a day, to NOT buy one  ;D
Let Dave have time to do a careful review and get to know this scope as this is no toy and takes a while to learn its feature set and capabilities.
Much like the SDS5kX it is more productive to use with a mouse which really supplements the touch and physical controls.

I don't plan on a full review, already did one for the 5000X and the operation is going to be near identical. I also presume it would be common platform, so any issues found on one would get fixed on the other.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #1220 on: June 02, 2020, 10:38:17 pm »
I just opened mine up as well and I think its safe to say they are all the same between the two of our 100s and Dave's 350 model
500Mhz+ frontends for everyone, its just a marketing stunt

Thanks for the confirmation.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #1221 on: June 02, 2020, 10:43:57 pm »
I need a 2nd scope but I already have a Rigol MSO7000.
Im divided between keeping my Rigol for home and breaking the bank for a higher end, more polished scope like a R&S RTM3000/4000 or Lecroy 4024HD. Or be reasonable and buy myself this SDS2000X Plus for home.

Few people need to shell out a lot of coin for a high end scope for home. Use the money for something else, or save it.

This must be underlined…


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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #1222 on: June 03, 2020, 07:14:07 am »
I need a 2nd scope but I already have a Rigol MSO7000.
Im divided between keeping my Rigol for home and breaking the bank for a higher end, more polished scope like a R&S RTM3000/4000 or Lecroy 4024HD. Or be reasonable and buy myself this SDS2000X Plus for home.

Few people need to shell out a lot of coin for a high end scope for home. Use the money for something else, or save it.

From the man with the most scopes in his lab, in the world  ;D

An oscilloscope at home doesn't necessarily mean it's for hobby use.
I have young children, so I am sometimes stucked at home for several days. It's nice to have this flexibility and to be able to continue working at home in good conditions.
Im sure the SDS2000X Plus will fit my needs at home, no problem.

But I already had remarks when I wrote documentation with "Rigol" screenshots.
I know it sounds stupid but I have clients who got stuck in the 2000s and only trust big brands.
They think Rigol is Chinese shit and don't even know the Siglent brand.
They have dedicated suppliers who don't represent these low cost brands so they only know the big brands solutions and to be honest, I'm not sure that they look at something other than Tektronix when they have to buy a scope.

Hence the idea of maybe breaking the bank and buying an scope for my lab and keep the one I have for home.
If they are happy with R&S screenshots and they give me more work to do, everyone is happy  8)
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #1223 on: June 03, 2020, 07:15:58 am »
But I already had remarks when I wrote documentation with "Rigol" screenshots.
*snip*
Hence the idea of maybe breaking the bank and buying an scope for my lab and keep the one I have for home.

Vastly cheaper to use photoshop  ;)
 

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Re: Siglent SDS2000X Plus
« Reply #1224 on: June 03, 2020, 07:21:20 am »
500MHz top vs 100MHz bottom

« Last Edit: June 03, 2020, 07:22:51 am by EEVblog »
 
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