Siglent SDS6000A DSO's 500MHz-2GHz

[mawyatt]

The addition of Hi-Res limits channel mem depth to 12.5 Mpts.
Hi-Res 4 bits pushes out risetimes to 1.3 ns from ~245ps

So the BW using the 0.35 ROT is ~270MHz at ~12 bits (8 + Hi-Res @ 4).

The Hi-Res 12.5Mpts limit should effect the FFT resolution.

If you have a chance could you show the zoomed in pulse edge with Hi-Res?

Anyway, thanks for the info.

Best,

[2N3055]

Still getting used to this scope and already I have a preference to use it in Fixed Mem mode,

I can't help it but I'm having an 'I told you so moment'. 

And yet I still never use it...

Read again. He likes it because it slows down wfms/s so trace is thin...
But you deliberately chose to ignore that and copied only part that fits your agenda..... But what is new, right?

I do use something else though: a fixed sampling frequency mode...That is useful.

[nctnico]

Still getting used to this scope and already I have a preference to use it in Fixed Mem mode,

I can't help it but I'm having an 'I told you so moment'. 

And yet I still never use it...

Read again. He likes it because it slows down wfms/s so trace is thin...
But you deliberately chose to ignore that and copied only part that fits your agenda..... But what is new, right?

Geez, did you got out of the wrong side of the bed today!  Your sense of humor must be somewhere under the pillow or so. Go look for it quickly and stop eating lemons!

[2N3055]

Still getting used to this scope and already I have a preference to use it in Fixed Mem mode,

I can't help it but I'm having an 'I told you so moment'. 

And yet I still never use it...

Read again. He likes it because it slows down wfms/s so trace is thin...
But you deliberately chose to ignore that and copied only part that fits your agenda..... But what is new, right?

Geez, did you got out of the wrong side of the bed today!  Your sense of humor must be somewhere under the pillow or so. Go look for it quickly and stop eating lemons!

Well you just found it, I guess.. THIS made me smile..
 

P.S.: I guess I'm a bit grumpy nowadays...

[tautech]

Still getting used to this scope and already I have a preference to use it in Fixed Mem mode,

I can't help it but I'm having an 'I told you so moment'. 

And yet I still never use it...

Read again. He likes it because it slows down wfms/s so trace is thin...
But you deliberately chose to ignore that and copied only part that fits your agenda..... But what is new, right?

I do use something else though: a fixed sampling frequency mode...That is useful.

Yes, the feature set of so many acquisition modes places this DSO way on top of Siglent's current offerings and so offer the right combination for any need. This makes it a very powerful tool.
The PM has shared the next beta FW with us but at this time it is certainly not ready for release and needs further bashing into shape whereas the current public version appears OK for all basic use that we have explored.
Still we have some suggestions of small polishing improvements to the UI that we'll offer for consideration.

[Performa01]

... He likes it because it slows down wfms/s so trace is thin...

I do use something else though: a fixed sampling frequency mode...That is useful.

Owners of contemporary Siglent DSOs other than the SDS6000 don't need to get envious. If they really want to bring the the trigger rate almost to a halt by slowing it down from e.g. 157k to <30 waveforms per second, thus reducing the non-blind time by a factor of about 5000, they could just use the "slow" acquisition mode in the same menu and they will get the same "thin" trace because of the vastly reduced amount of visible data. This way at least the history would still be available.

As Sinisa mentioned, "constant sample rate" has its uses and is the main reason why manual memory management has been implemented.

[tautech]

Had these out so a snap of the lineup.
L to R: SDS2104X Plus, SDS5054X, SDS6204A

SDS2104X+ is fastest to boot by just a few seconds closely followed by SDS6204A then SDS5054X a few seconds later.

[Martin72]

The big three and the secret star is the sds2k+...

[tv84]

In the software of the SDS2000X+/5000X/6000X there is a SCPI command that shows the board model and Siglent's licensing scheme currently being used in the  scope:

:syst:board?

Recent example answers that I've seen:

SDS5054X - "4CH_500M_LIC-V2"
SDS6204A - "ZDLP_LIC-V2"
SDS2104X HD - "UNNAMED_LIC-V2"
SDS2504X+ - "4CH_500M_LIC-V1"
SDS6000Pro - "ZDL_LIC-V1"

The first 3 equipments came out already using Siglent's new licensing scheme v2. For the 5000 and X+ there are still equipments being sold with v1.

[tautech]

Hmmm, older SDS5054X with improvement to 1GHz = 4CH_1G_LIC-V1

[Martin72]

SDS2504X+ - "4CH_500M_LIC-V1"

Response from our brandnew SDS2104X+, tested on work today :

600bps_LIC-V1

Martin

[tv84]

600bps_LIC-V1

600bps ? ? ?

[Martin72]

No joke, checked this twice....
Maybe it´s because there are no options installed...?
When the other two new arrive, I´ll check this again.

Martin

[tv84]

  When there is no input validation...

[Martin72]

Means what ?

[tv84]

Means what ?

That Siglent programmers are not perfect. As you can see by that structure, once you run out of ch+BW combinations the function passes to the next string... giving you a "600bps device". Once you upgrade the SDSX+ to 500MHz all will be good.

[Martin72]

You´re doing interesting things...

[cgroen]

Got my SDS6204A a couple of days ago (from Batronix, Germany). I got the AWG and LA option with it.
Below is rising/falling edge with Leo Bodnar pulser.
Version is 1.4.0 and :syst:board? returns ZDLP_LIC-V2.

[tv84]

Service Manual

[TaliG]

Hi  everyone!

I am a happy owner of an sds5054x with all options and 1ghz bandwidth unlocked thanks to you, great community members.

I am also a siglent fun.

Please give me a reason to upgrade to this baby. I can't sleep at night thinking about it 

[tautech]

Hi  everyone!

I am a happy owner of an sds5054x with all options and 1ghz bandwidth unlocked thanks to you, great community members.

I am also a siglent fun.

Please give me a reason to upgrade to this baby. I can't sleep at night thinking about it 

Welcome to the forum.

SDS5104X is a quite capable DSO and now with the latest FW that imports the memory management menu SDS6000A has the gap has narrowed and while the larger 12" display is nice the individual vertical controls on SDS5000X are nice too for those stuck in their ways.
I have both and only if I wanted the larger display, more BW, 4 Math traces, 8Mpts FFT or HDMI support would I get a SDS6000A.
AFAIK SDS6kA BW and options have yet to be unlocked.

Remember, Dave did a 1 GHz DSO shootout a while back and SDS5104X was judged best bang for buck ....that was before the memory management improvements....so maybe it's time he looked at this picture again now the SDS6kA is here. 

[blurpy]

SDS5104X is a quite capable DSO and now with the latest FW that imports the memory management menu SDS6000A has the gap has narrowed

Do you think SDS2000X+ might get that improvement as well?

[tautech]

SDS5104X is a quite capable DSO and now with the latest FW that imports the memory management menu SDS6000A has the gap has narrowed

Do you think SDS2000X+ might get that improvement as well?

I don’t but I also don’t really know however like you I have wondered about this too.
The new 2000HD has it and fair enough as it is double the price of the X Plus and IMO this differentiation in the feature set will remain to justify the HD price.
So for now X Plus owners need work with the dual timebase LeCroy zoom method.

[oewean]

new firmware for SDS6000A
V1.4.3.3 (Release Date 06.28.22 )
https://www.siglenteu.com/download/13076/

Edit: Wrong URL

Note: This release cannot be downgraded to former releases.

1. Math: added filter operator
2. Supported to save waveform as Memory traces, which store the raw
data instead of the screen data (as Ref does), and can be source of
Measure/Math etc.
3. Measure: improved the AIM limit from 1,000 to up to 65,000 (AIM limit:
the upper limit of horizontal parameters measure statistics in one frame )
4. Optimized intensity display of math traces.
5. Added support for mouse wheel when using a mouse
6. Supported CP030 current probe (with LPA10 adapter)
7. Eye Diagram: 100Base-TX signal supported
8. Trigger: Pattern trigger strategy changed
9. Power Analysis:
a) Supported MOSFET SOA (Safe Operating Area)
b) Bigger table size

10. Fixed several bugs
a) Moving the traces by gestures may cause the scope to freeze
b) [Bode Plot]Vertical Ref.level manual setting is partially bad
c) [Measure]Track plot - not working well in general
d) [Power Analysis]Current harmonics forgets table/bar view
e) Waveform Capture Rate breakdown at 20 ns/div
f) Measurements skip buffers in history mode

[tv84]

This is the SDS5000X FW.