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Siglent SDS800 Zoom out question (problem?)

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tautech:

--- Quote from: nctnico on October 03, 2024, 07:28:48 am ---
--- Quote from: frank2644 on October 03, 2024, 02:17:43 am ---
--- Quote from: Someone on October 03, 2024, 12:04:59 am ---
--- Quote from: frank2644 on October 02, 2024, 05:21:27 pm ---That is, the ability to zoom out to examine events that happened just prior to trigger and outside the screen view area.
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You got trolled, it is an imaginary "problem" in some bizarre corner case that almost certainly does not apply to your use case.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/oscilloscope-zoom-out-quirk/msg4484857/#msg4484857

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I think you are saying that zooming out is a very infrequent requirement and can be easily overcome. Therefore not important. Although I am sure I have encountered this issue and admittingly I have become accustomed and it doesn't really bother me much anymore.

However, Dave Jones in the video I previously provided seems to think zoom out is valuable as well as some other Superusers that I have seen comment favorably about that capability. One poster thought it was a standard. Another poster said he thought all scopes had it.
 
Currently I'm considering buying a new scope and I gotta believe I would appreciate that zoom-out function if my new scope had it.

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Don't get fooled by people dead-set on being right no matter what. Keep in mind there are many possible workflows depending on the problems / circuits you are working on. The best option is to just try a few scopes. As a consumer you typically have a right of return within a couple of days. That should be enough to give a DSO a try using a pre-defined test plan and see what works best for YOU.

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There will be no surprises for member frank2644 as right from the outset he said he already has SDS1104X-E.
Did you not spot that ?  :-//

However he will/should/might be pleased with the easier to use Zoom mode in SDS800X HD.

nctnico:

--- Quote from: tautech on October 03, 2024, 07:34:07 am ---
--- Quote from: nctnico on October 03, 2024, 07:28:48 am ---
--- Quote from: frank2644 on October 03, 2024, 02:17:43 am ---
--- Quote from: Someone on October 03, 2024, 12:04:59 am ---
--- Quote from: frank2644 on October 02, 2024, 05:21:27 pm ---That is, the ability to zoom out to examine events that happened just prior to trigger and outside the screen view area.
--- End quote ---
You got trolled, it is an imaginary "problem" in some bizarre corner case that almost certainly does not apply to your use case.

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/oscilloscope-zoom-out-quirk/msg4484857/#msg4484857

--- End quote ---

I think you are saying that zooming out is a very infrequent requirement and can be easily overcome. Therefore not important. Although I am sure I have encountered this issue and admittingly I have become accustomed and it doesn't really bother me much anymore.

However, Dave Jones in the video I previously provided seems to think zoom out is valuable as well as some other Superusers that I have seen comment favorably about that capability. One poster thought it was a standard. Another poster said he thought all scopes had it.
 
Currently I'm considering buying a new scope and I gotta believe I would appreciate that zoom-out function if my new scope had it.

--- End quote ---
Don't get fooled by people dead-set on being right no matter what. Keep in mind there are many possible workflows depending on the problems / circuits you are working on. The best option is to just try a few scopes. As a consumer you typically have a right of return within a couple of days. That should be enough to give a DSO a try using a pre-defined test plan and see what works best for YOU.

--- End quote ---
There will be no surprises for member frank2644 as right from the outset he said he already has SDS1104X-E.
Did you not spot that ?  :-//

However he will/should/might be pleased with the easier to use Zoom mode in SDS800X HD.

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Well, zoom mode just isn't the universal answer and the OP is clearly looking to expand his horizon. I understand you want to try to promote Siglent as this is the brand you sell, but realistically it doesn't hurt to try / investigate various pieces of equipment from various brands to see what would be a good fit. That is exactly what I do when I look for a new piece of equipment.

KungFuJosh:

--- Quote from: nctnico on October 03, 2024, 12:02:53 pm ---Well, zoom mode just isn't the universal answer and the OP is clearly looking to expand his horizon. I understand you want to try to promote Siglent as this is the brand you sell, but realistically it doesn't hurt to try / investigate various pieces of equipment from various brands to see what would be a good fit. That is exactly what I do when I look for a new piece of equipment.

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You're correct, but at the same time, if his budget is under $500, there's nothing better available than the 800X HD scope he's interested in.

Fungus:

--- Quote from: KungFuJosh on October 03, 2024, 04:13:28 pm ---You're correct, but at the same time, if his budget is under $500, there's nothing better available than the 800X HD scope he's interested in.

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The Rigol can zoom out, no problem.

KungFuJosh:

--- Quote from: Fungus on October 03, 2024, 06:02:38 pm ---
--- Quote from: KungFuJosh on October 03, 2024, 04:13:28 pm ---You're correct, but at the same time, if his budget is under $500, there's nothing better available than the 800X HD scope he's interested in.

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The Rigol can zoom out, no problem.

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You're arguing disingenuously. The Rigol fails by comparison on every other feature (except HDMI output which is not on the Siglent), and especially on support, which barely exists, if at all.

Just because 5 brands do something one way, and another 5 brands do it slightly differently, doesn't make any of them the correct or the only way to do a thing.

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