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Re: Siglent SDS800X HD 12 bit DSO's
« Reply #1325 on: April 24, 2024, 09:59:37 pm »
Something else that also applies to the SDS800X HD:
I never needed it, so I never noticed it.
But yesterday evening I wanted to reset the SDS3034X HD to the default state.
Where would you find this function in the menu?
I would have expected to find it in the utility menu, but that's not the case.
The function can be found (for both scopes) in the acquire menu....
That seems illogical to me, I have to say.
If I see an item “Default” in the acquire menu, I would think that I can use it to set the acquisition to default and not the whole scope.
That's why I would have expected this function in the utility menu.
Me too.

Save/Recall Secure Erase and green front panel Default should delete all previous user settings and return to factory settings.....unless a User Default has been set. < reset to Factory Default.
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Re: Siglent SDS800X HD 12 bit DSO's
« Reply #1326 on: April 25, 2024, 12:17:16 pm »
Something interesting about the SDS800x HD is that the Time Base is in the time domain is separate from the Frequency Domain Time Base (FFT). This is only seen in the top models of class "A" manufacturers. Siglent has "arrived there"...
This is very interesting for the analysis of low amplitude RF signals.
I have verified, through articles and images, that the SDS1204X the two time bases are linked. To "see" the FFT, you need to multiply the time base in time domais by 1000, to be able to see the well-defined FTT ranges. In the SDS800X HD, it is separate. Including numerically marking the FFT peaks, and being able to edit which ones should appear in the "Peak Table" is exceptional.

If anyone can, please clarify whether other models od Siglent above the SDS800X HD have this possibility of having separate time bases.

The only "separate timebase" which comes into my mind is the timbase of a zoom window, because a zoom window has its own time/div. Can you explain where else you see "separate time bases"? The main time base (and the derived sample rate and record length) applies to both, time and frequency domain. You cannot set these parameters separately for time and frequency domain.

Note that the time/div value is irrelevant for the FFT anyway. What matters for the FFT are sample rate and number of points. However, with automatic memory management, you cannot set time/div, sample rate and record length independently, but they are linked. IOW, if you want to set a sample rate and record length suitable for a "nice" FFT, then you can only do that by adjusting time/div.
 
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Re: Siglent SDS800X HD 12 bit DSO's
« Reply #1327 on: April 25, 2024, 01:36:48 pm »
With a bit of luck I'll get mine too. Next week otherwise.

The SDS804X HD is in stock at the German distributor Batronix. Just in time to compete with Magnova  :)
The oscilloscope is also available in the BatterFly store.
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Re: Siglent SDS800X HD 12 bit DSO's
« Reply #1328 on: April 25, 2024, 01:46:17 pm »
Well, then I'll most likely have it on monday. I ordered through a spanish distributor, Isotest.
 

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Re: Siglent SDS800X HD 12 bit DSO's
« Reply #1329 on: April 25, 2024, 08:02:37 pm »
Something interesting about the SDS800x HD is that the Time Base is in the time domain is separate from the Frequency Domain Time Base (FFT). This is only seen in the top models of class "A" manufacturers. Siglent has "arrived there"...
This is very interesting for the analysis of low amplitude RF signals.
I have verified, through articles and images, that the SDS1204X the two time bases are linked. To "see" the FFT, you need to multiply the time base in time domais by 1000, to be able to see the well-defined FTT ranges. In the SDS800X HD, it is separate. Including numerically marking the FFT peaks, and being able to edit which ones should appear in the "Peak Table" is exceptional.

If anyone can, please clarify whether other models od Siglent above the SDS800X HD have this possibility of having separate time bases.

The only "separate timebase" which comes into my mind is the timbase of a zoom window, because a zoom window has its own time/div. Can you explain where else you see "separate time bases"? The main time base (and the derived sample rate and record length) applies to both, time and frequency domain. You cannot set these parameters separately for time and frequency domain.

Note that the time/div value is irrelevant for the FFT anyway. What matters for the FFT are sample rate and number of points. However, with automatic memory management, you cannot set time/div, sample rate and record length independently, but they are linked. IOW, if you want to set a sample rate and record length suitable for a "nice" FFT, then you can only do that by adjusting time/div.


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Thank you for commenting.
It may be that I didn't express myself well on the subject. I looked at this IMG from the @Performa01 manual, and noticed that the FTT time signal is superimposed with a sine wave. And in part it surpassed the compressed signal.
That's what I meant to say, with the wrong words.
You understood?

 

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Re: Siglent SDS800X HD 12 bit DSO's
« Reply #1330 on: April 25, 2024, 08:25:30 pm »
It may be that I didn't express myself well on the subject. I looked at this IMG from the @Performa01 manual, and noticed that the FTT time signal is superimposed with a sine wave. And in part it surpassed the compressed signal.
That's what I meant to say, with the wrong words.
You understood?

It's exactly what I did presume: @Performa01 did use a zoom window to display the sine wave @10ns/div, while the main timebase was set to 500µs/div in order to acquire long records.
 
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Re: Siglent SDS800X HD 1Specifications
« Reply #1331 on: April 26, 2024, 05:20:39 pm »
Just put an order for a SDS804X HD scope.  :popcorn: Seems out of stock in Europe, but hope I will get delivery in a month or so.

Just got the scope today.

Discussion about clock time accuracy, anyone who has any open NTP-server IP to recommend for the scope?
 

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Re: Siglent SDS800X HD 12 bit DSO's
« Reply #1332 on: April 26, 2024, 05:33:26 pm »
Me too...

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Re: Siglent SDS800X HD 1Specifications
« Reply #1333 on: April 26, 2024, 06:01:30 pm »
Just put an order for a SDS804X HD scope.  :popcorn: Seems out of stock in Europe, but hope I will get delivery in a month or so.

Just got the scope today.

Discussion about clock time accuracy, anyone who has any open NTP-server IP to recommend for the scope?

We use 129.6.15.26 from here in Florida USA, believe site is in Maryland.

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Re: Siglent SDS800X HD 1Specifications
« Reply #1334 on: April 26, 2024, 06:25:05 pm »
anyone who has any open NTP-server IP to recommend for the scope?

Take your pick, e.g. here -- includes a few servers in Sweden:
https://wpollock.com/AUnix2/NTPstratum1PublicServers.htm
 
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Re: Siglent SDS800X HD 12 bit DSO's
« Reply #1335 on: April 29, 2024, 11:45:22 pm »
I got my scope today! Very excited to upgrade from my Fluke Combiscope.
 
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Re: Siglent SDS800X HD 12 bit DSO's
« Reply #1336 on: April 30, 2024, 02:09:30 pm »
Enjoying delving into my new scope.

Have a question though, and this might apply to all the Siglent scopes/etc..

What is the largest USB drive one can use and is this mentioned anywhere in the FM?  I have a 4GB one that works, but 64GB and larger ones do not.  The 4GB one is on it's last legs.
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Re: Siglent SDS800X HD 12 bit DSO's
« Reply #1337 on: April 30, 2024, 02:44:54 pm »
Enjoying delving into my new scope.

Have a question though, and this might apply to all the Siglent scopes/etc..

What is the largest USB drive one can use and is this mentioned anywhere in the FM?  I have a 4GB one that works, but 64GB and larger ones do not.  The 4GB one is on it's last legs.

I use SanDisk Extreme USB 3.0 32GB for my scopes. Make sure FS is FAT32

chkdsk f:

The type of the file system is FAT32.
Access is denied.

Volume ESD-USB created 21.3.2024. 16:30
Volume Serial Number is DCA1-BD67
Windows is verifying files and folders...
File and folder verification is complete.

Windows has scanned the file system and found no problems.
No further action is required.
   30 623 744 KB total disk space.
           32 KB in 2 hidden files.
        1 488 KB in 89 folders.
    9 641 264 KB in 963 files.
   20 980 944 KB are available.

       16 384 bytes in each allocation unit.
    1 913 984 total allocation units on disk.
    1 311 309 allocation units available on disk.
 
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Re: Siglent SDS800X HD 12 bit DSO's
« Reply #1338 on: April 30, 2024, 02:47:06 pm »
These have been compatible with all my TE: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09FFK1QLR
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Re: Siglent SDS800X HD 12 bit DSO's
« Reply #1339 on: May 01, 2024, 03:14:07 am »
I really like my SDS804X HD, happy I waited before jumping to 12-bit. I would have liked a VESA mount like the Rigols have though.... so I made one.



There are a lot of pictures, description and STL files here:

https://www.printables.com/model/863752-siglent-sds8xx-vesa-mount

If you don't have a printer you could use my shared project on PCBWay in which case I may get a small commission:

https://www.pcbway.com/project/shareproject/VESA_mount_for_Siglent_SDS8xx_oscilloscope_5eb70f30.html

But in both places you can download the files and get them printed anywhere you like. I hope you find it useful.
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Re: Siglent SDS800X HD 12 bit DSO's
« Reply #1340 on: May 01, 2024, 06:55:34 am »
I really like my SDS804X HD, happy I waited before jumping to 12-bit. I would have liked a VESA mount like the Rigols have though.... so I made one.
For a moment, I thought you'd bought two!  :D
 
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Re: Siglent SDS800X HD 12 bit DSO's
« Reply #1341 on: May 01, 2024, 10:59:54 am »
Enjoying delving into my new scope.

Have a question though, and this might apply to all the Siglent scopes/etc..

What is the largest USB drive one can use and is this mentioned anywhere in the FM?  I have a 4GB one that works, but 64GB and larger ones do not.  The 4GB one is on it's last legs.
The generic answer is 8GB FAT32 4k clusters that will work with any Siglent device but particularly these specs in the case/need for USB recovery should it ever be required.......ppls seem to like to telnet into the device OS these days for whatever reason.   ::)
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Re: Siglent SDS800X HD 12 bit DSO's
« Reply #1342 on: May 02, 2024, 04:56:53 am »
FYI, I managed to get the SDS800X-HD working with non siglent AWGs for the bode plots.
The low level communication changed, so I had to do some modifications. See https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sds1104x-e-and-sds1204x-e-bode-plot-with-non-siglent-awg/msg5479096/#msg5479096
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