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Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« on: December 18, 2019, 11:47:39 pm »
Exciting news
Siglent has released product information on their chinese website for a real-time spectrum analyzer with 5 and 7.5GHz range, 40MHz bandwidth.
https://www.siglent.com/products-overview/ssa3000xr/

It also looks like the SSA3000X Plus and SVA1000X series are getting 7.5GHz versions

I think 2020 is going to be a exciting year for Siglent :-)
« Last Edit: December 20, 2019, 09:22:14 pm by oewean »
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2019, 12:20:03 am »
Really nice news to see, now the inexpensive SA players have broken into the higher bandwidths.  I hope they have a VNA version on the way too, even if only a single port like their current lower bandwidth offerings.

Looks like it's got 40MHz realtime bandwidth too!
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2019, 03:10:46 am »
Yes this new SSA3000X-R range is not to be confused with the recently updated SSA3000X Plus range which will have only a 7.5 GHz version coming early-mid 2020 to add to the existing 2.1 and 3.2 GHz versions.
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2019, 09:27:51 am »
Looks pretty interesting. Slightly worse phase noise than the Rigol and no IF output though. More expensive too, possibly? (although I guess it depends on what options are included and how they are priced).

These two making a mockery of the Keysight and R&S pricing though.
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2019, 02:14:13 pm »
No analog AM/FM demodulation on the Rigol? That's a surprise.
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2019, 03:11:44 am »
Chinese website confirmation a 7.5 GHz SVA1075X is coming too:
https://www.siglent.com/products-overview/sva1000x/
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2019, 03:17:46 am »
Chinese website confirmation a 7.5 GHz SVA1075X is coming too:
https://www.siglent.com/products-overview/sva1000x/

That's pretty neat, but a bit pricey I think. Lower end model retails at $3k?
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2019, 03:20:30 am »
Chinese website confirmation a 7.5 GHz SVA1075X is coming too:
https://www.siglent.com/products-overview/sva1000x/

That's pretty neat, but a bit pricey I think. Lower end model retails at $3k?
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2019, 03:22:07 am »
Comparison to Rigol RSA5065

Where? All I see is a table comparing it to offerings from Keysight, Tektronix, and R&S, which must be a joke. All three are orders of magnitude more expensive and in a totally different class.
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2019, 07:22:46 am »
Comparison to Rigol RSA5065

Where? All I see is a table comparing it to offerings from Keysight, Tektronix, and R&S, which must be a joke. All three are orders of magnitude more expensive and in a totally different class.
They've changed it. It was there yesterday. However, that's Keysight's lowest benchtop model that supports Real Time analysis, so seems like a reasonable comparison.  Without all the options enabled, its not that different. E.G. frequency range can be just 10MHz to to 3GHz. DANL is worse (-164) without NFE option. But even with just the basic options, you need to spend 5 times as much to get RTSA. I don't know why they require you to have the 80MHz b/w option before supporting RTSA.
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2019, 11:35:33 am »
They replaced the Rigol in the comparison table.   :-//


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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2019, 04:35:17 pm »
To summarize this should be the SIGLENT 2020 spectrum analyzers line up:

SIGLENT SSA3050X-R, spectrum analyzer 9kHz - 5GHz with up to 40MHz real time analysis bandwidth

SIGLENT SSA3075X-R, spectrum analyzer 9kHz - 7.5GHz with up to 40MHz real time analysis bandwidth

SIGLENT SVA1015X, spectrum analyzer 9kHz - 1.5GHz with S11 and S21 single port vector network analyzer

SIGLENT SVA1032X, spectrum analyzer 9kHz - 3.2GHz with S11 and S21 single port vector network analyzer

SIGLENT SVA1075X, spectrum analyzer 9kHz - 7.5GHz with S11 and S21 single port vector network analyzer

SIGLENT SSA3021X PLUS, spectrum analyzer 9kHz - 2.1GHz

SIGLENT SSA3032X PLUS, spectrum analyzer 9kHz - 3.2GHz

SIGLENT SSA3075X PLUS, spectrum analyzer 9kHz - 7.5GHz

SIGLENT SSA3021X, spectrum analyzer 9kHz - 2.1GHz

SIGLENT SSA3032X, spectrum analyzer 9kHz - 3.2GHz
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2019, 05:22:38 pm »
Siglent has released product information on their chinese website for a real-time spectrum analyzer with 5 and 7.5GHz bandwith

That would have been stunning, if it had been the case.

They have a bandwidth of 40MHz, and a frequency range up to 7.5GHz.
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2019, 09:21:20 pm »
Siglent has released product information on their chinese website for a real-time spectrum analyzer with 5 and 7.5GHz bandwith

That would have been stunning, if it had been the case.

They have a bandwidth of 40MHz, and a frequency range up to 7.5GHz.

Sorry for the miscommunication, a bandwidth of 7.5 GHz would be more than stunning  :)
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2019, 10:21:37 am »
Comparison to Rigol RSA5065

Where? All I see is a table comparing it to offerings from Keysight, Tektronix, and R&S, which must be a joke. All three are orders of magnitude more expensive and in a totally different class.
They've changed it. It was there yesterday. However, that's Keysight's lowest benchtop model that supports Real Time analysis, so seems like a reasonable comparison.  Without all the options enabled, its not that different. E.G. frequency range can be just 10MHz to to 3GHz. DANL is worse (-164) without NFE option. But even with just the basic options, you need to spend 5 times as much to get RTSA. I don't know why they require you to have the 80MHz b/w option before supporting RTSA.

I do not remember any case that Rigol have published this kind of comparison table where they compare any their own product with Siglent product. So, why Siglent need compare they products with Rigol. Is Rigol some kind of "reference" level for Siglent. No. 
Much better ones need be "reference" just as is also with audiophiles, reference quality speakers or amplifiers and then compare all others to these. So...
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2019, 10:58:52 am »
So, why Siglent need compare they products with Rigol. Is Rigol some kind of "reference" level for Siglent. No. 

For a certain period (while Siglent didnt have the equipment ready) it was and the proof is their own table.

I would say that they even used Rigol's parameters as an objective to equal or add a little more. The series params are striking similar.
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2019, 01:22:51 pm »
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2019, 01:37:42 pm »
I made the line up table, will add more details over the time
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BCe9j2sFGA9krmXgSYCdvsX91E3v2_LXLjGxaZi36aI/edit?usp=sharing

Nice. Why not VNA in X-R series? Just a marketing strategy, right?
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2020, 11:22:08 am »
Any idea when these (SSA3050X-R) are going to be available in Europe?
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2020, 04:56:05 pm »
Do any vector signal analyzers have the capability to do symbol mapping and output the symbol/bitstream in real time?
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2020, 08:39:52 pm »
Do any vector signal analyzers have the capability to do symbol mapping and output the symbol/bitstream in real time?
As in IQ demodulation ?
Yes the SSA X-R, SSA Plus and SVA models can do this.

SVA:
The Signal Path video stopped at the start of IQ demodulation:
https://youtu.be/ToVJTKCyIU8?t=2660

Any idea when these (SSA3050X-R) are going to be available in Europe?
I'll ask the factory for a projected release date.
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2020, 01:25:49 am »
Any idea when these (SSA3050X-R) are going to be available in Europe?
I'll ask the factory for a projected release date.
Apparently in just a couple of weeks however I cannot say which distributors will get to stock them first.
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #23 on: February 27, 2020, 03:38:21 am »
Do any vector signal analyzers have the capability to do symbol mapping and output the symbol/bitstream in real time?
As in IQ demodulation ?
Yes the SSA X-R, SSA Plus and SVA models can do this.

SVA:
The Signal Path video stopped at the start of IQ demodulation:
https://youtu.be/ToVJTKCyIU8?t=2660

Hi Rob,  I am looking for a VSA that can output the bitstream so that it can be consumed by other instruments.  I see the data on screen in the video.  A number of VSAs have that ability.  But I would like to output that demodulated bitstream from the instrument in real time, either via a dedicated TTL port, or via LXI.  I looked at the programming manual and it was not apparent how to get at the demodulated data.
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #24 on: February 27, 2020, 03:56:10 am »
Do any vector signal analyzers have the capability to do symbol mapping and output the symbol/bitstream in real time?
As in IQ demodulation ?
Yes the SSA X-R, SSA Plus and SVA models can do this.

SVA:
The Signal Path video stopped at the start of IQ demodulation:
https://youtu.be/ToVJTKCyIU8?t=2660

Hi Rob,  I am looking for a VSA that can output the bitstream so that it can be consumed by other instruments.  I see the data on screen in the video.  A number of VSAs have that ability.  But I would like to output that demodulated bitstream from the instrument in real time, either via a dedicated TTL port, or via LXI.  I looked at the programming manual and it was not apparent how to get at the demodulated data.
Yes we only have limited I/O's to get data out so it must be from USB or LAN and maybe there will be a new SCPI command set when these new models are released. IDK.
But I know 2 beta testers that maybe can take this up with the product managers to see how this might be accomplished however maybe not in real time.  :(
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2020, 11:13:11 am »
A quick spec-sheet comparison of the SSA3075X-R vs RSA5056-TG

Currently have a Siglent SSA3032X, which has worked well, but am veering towards the RSA5056-TG for the upgrade. Anything I'm missing?
 
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2020, 12:03:50 pm »
Phase noise is 10dbm less plus I find it much easier to use and oddly enough just nicer.
Have a 5065 on loan and make the comparison yourself then Tautech can't moan to much  :box:
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2020, 12:12:24 pm »
Phase noise is 10dbm less plus I find it much easier to use and oddly enough just nicer.
Have a 5065 on loan and make the comparison yourself then Tautech can't moan to much  :box:
You've used both ?  :-//

I've had a quick play with a beta SSA3075X-R and after some time with SVA, SSA and Plus models for the most part UI is comfortably familiar albeit with additional features.

srce has shown interest in these for a while so should at least test drive one especially when shelling out this sort of coin.  :o
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2020, 08:36:11 am »
At that price point it's unremarkable. It's probably also just built with a shitload of ADI parts with not much engineering on the part of Siglent, something anyone can just pull off.
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #30 on: April 16, 2020, 09:11:15 am »
Remote access to a local beta testers SSA3075X-R so made some remote adjustments and grabbed a screenshot of his local 2.4 GHz WiFi activity:

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #31 on: April 16, 2020, 10:10:09 am »
As OwO has pointed out not much going on here that hasn't been seen before Rigol were doing this two years ago.

Now If Siglent were going to lift some interesting tech from LeCroy regarding the spectrum analyser capability from the upper models then that would be worth looking at imho
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2020, 09:08:05 am »
New announcements for the SSA3000X-R range:

VNA and DTF standard features now added to all models.
New model added: SSA3032X-R

https://int.siglent.com/u_file/document/SSA3000X-R_DataSheet_DS0703R_E02A.pdf
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #33 on: August 17, 2020, 11:41:43 am »
If the SSA3032X-R becomes "upgradable" :) I think it will be an instant success even at 4k Euro.

 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2020, 08:09:30 pm »
Pretty please, can anyone make few photos of the FPGA area of the realtime version? Would be interesting to see, what the RT actually changed there...
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2020, 10:48:57 pm »
Datasheet makes it seem upgradable
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2021, 07:28:17 am »
A quick spec-sheet comparison of the SSA3075X-R vs RSA5056-TG

Currently have a Siglent SSA3032X, which has worked well, but am veering towards the RSA5056-TG for the upgrade. Anything I'm missing?

At the prices listed here it seems worth comparing against SignalHound BB60C and BM200B (160MHz real-time bandwidth!)

Anyone have more thoughts on SSA3075X-R vs RSA5056-TG from "upgrade" perspective, features, bugs, etc.

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2021, 08:34:29 pm »
SSA3032X-R -> SSA3075X-R

Boom!  :-+   I step away for a few weeks and everything changes!  ;D
 
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #39 on: February 28, 2021, 08:36:19 pm »
Hi everyone,

I have some questions and I’m sure some of you can answer them easily …

I am comparing the specs of two spectrum analyzers – the Siglent SSA3032X-R and the Rohde & Schwarz FPC1500 (in the COM2 kit version). In terms of VNA and reflection measurements, R&S states “The R&S FPC is a vector network analyzer that utilizes an integrated VSWR bridge to achieve one ­port vector network analysis, with a Smith chart display available.” Crystal clear.

For the SSA3032X-R, I feel confused. Like others, I came across two sets of datasheets for this device, labeled E01A and E02A.
  • In datasheet E01A there is no notion of VNA at all, and for VSWR measurement, an optional, external reflection bridge is needed. 
  • In datasheet E02A, VNA with s11 and s12 is mentioned as a standard. The device provides a "1-path-2-port vector network analyzer and a distance-to-fault locator for S-parameter measurement, cable and antenna testing". Its VNA specs specify Lin Mag, Log Mag, Phase, Group Delay, SWR, Smith Chart, and Polar Chart. Were the reflection measurements are discussed in detail (VSWR, Return Loss, Reflection Coefficient), on page 13, the note (still present in E01A) that this requires an option is removed from this version of the document. Yet, on page 23, the reflection bridge is again listed as an option.
Adding to the confusion, the international Siglent website page for this device refers includes a reference to the E01A (old?) datasheet.

Also, the international Siglent site does not list the reflector bridge as an accessory for the SSA3032X-R, but the European Siglent site does.

So, my questions are:
  • How can I know when I purchase a device that it meets the E02 datasheet? Is it certain hardware, or a certain software version?
  • A device that meets the E02A should have VNA (including s11 and s21) as a standard, according to the datasheet. I understand that CSVW is closely related to s11. But would I need additional hardware or software to perform VSWR, Return Loss, and Reflection Coefficient measurements?
Any other thoughts on Siglent SSA3032X-R vs. Rohde & Schwarz FPC1500 (FPC-COM2 kit) are also welcome...

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #40 on: February 28, 2021, 08:47:34 pm »
VNA capability mirroring the SVA range was added as standard to the SSA3000X-R range 3 firmware releases ago in V3.2.2.3.2.
https://siglentna.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/SSA3000X-R-Firmware-Revise-History.pdf

Currently SVA1000X, SSA3000X Plus and SSA3000X-R all share the same user manual as apart from the serctions on RTSA and VNA their operation is identical.
https://int.siglent.com/u_file/document/SSA_XP_SVA_UserManual_UG0703P_E02A.pdf

And yes the factory SSA3000X-R website needs updating/revising. :palm:
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #41 on: February 28, 2021, 09:07:36 pm »
Thanks, Tautech!

But can you also answer my second question?

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #42 on: February 28, 2021, 09:17:02 pm »
A device that meets the E02A should have VNA (including s11 and s21) as a standard, according to the datasheet. I understand that CSVW is closely related to s11. But would I need additional hardware or software to perform VSWR, Return Loss, and Reflection Coefficient measurements?
No, none whatsoever when using VNA mode.

The TG output has the VNA coupling bridge already built in for all models and the signal path to use it is enabled in VNA mode.
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #43 on: February 28, 2021, 09:59:28 pm »
Thanks, Tautech!

But can you also answer my second question?

Thanks!
To see what X-R can do wrt antenna characterization/measurements check this thread using my SVA's, first a SVA1015X and later a SVA1032X that I still have for my RF use and demo work:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/rf-microwave/what-really-is-this-antenna/
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #44 on: February 28, 2021, 10:26:51 pm »
Thanks Tautech for those updates.

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Currently SVA1000X, SSA3000X Plus and SSA3000X-R all share the same user manual as apart from the serctions on RTSA and VNA their operation is identical.
https://int.siglent.com/u_file/document/SSA_XP_SVA_UserManual_UG0703P_E02A.pdf

Mmm. Despite this manual has "E02A" in its file name, it says both for the "Vector Network Analyzer Mode" and the "Distance-To-Fault Mode" that these are "only available on SVA1000X series.". Am I missing something? They should be available as well for the SSA3000X-R, right?!?

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The TG output has the VNA coupling bridge already built in for all models and the signal path to use it is enabled in VNA mode.
I see you write "in the VNA mode'. Just to be sure: does this VNA mode do the VSWR, Return Loss, and Reflection Coefficient measurements as mentioned in the datasheet (there they are not listed under VNA but under Reflection)? Do you get a screen like the shown screenshot?
1184022-0

And just to be sure: do I understand properly the fact that the reflection bridge is listed accessory in datasheet E02A is an error?

Sorry I keep on asking, but before committing to any purchase, I'd like to be sure what's included, and what is optional...
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #45 on: February 28, 2021, 10:54:20 pm »
Thanks Tautech for those updates.

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Currently SVA1000X, SSA3000X Plus and SSA3000X-R all share the same user manual as apart from the serctions on RTSA and VNA their operation is identical.
https://int.siglent.com/u_file/document/SSA_XP_SVA_UserManual_UG0703P_E02A.pdf

Mmm. Despite this manual has "E02A" in its file name, it says both for the "Vector Network Analyzer Mode" and the "Distance-To-Fault Mode" that these are "only available on SVA1000X series.". Am I missing something? They should be available as well for the SSA3000X-R, right?!?
Yes it is not clear however VNA and DTF modes have certainly been added to X-R models a few FW versions ago.
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The TG output has the VNA coupling bridge already built in for all models and the signal path to use it is enabled in VNA mode.
I see you write "in the VNA mode'. Just to be sure: does this VNA mode do the VSWR, Return Loss, and Reflection Coefficient measurements as mentioned in the datasheet (there they are not listed under VNA but under Reflection)? Do you get a screen like the shown screenshot?
Yes, no.  ;D
VNA mode certainly offers VSWR, Return Loss, Smith charts and Phase measurements however Reflection Coefficient measurements are only in SA mode where indeed you need an additional bridge and in order to use it correctly it needs be Normalised before connecting the DUT.
Bridges connect between TG and RF IN however for VNA work they're not required as the stimulus comes from the TG port and their reflections bounce back in for single port VNA S11 measurement types.
S21 measurements require the use of RF IN also for pass through DUT measurements.

No as in the screenshot is for Reflection Coefficient measurements in SA mode.
And just to be sure: do I understand properly the fact that the reflection bridge is listed accessory in datasheet E02A is an error?
No it's not an error but an optional accessory for SA mode and can be used on any of the current Siglent SA's or combo units; SVA or X-R.
Sorry I keep on asking, but before committing to any purchase, I'd like to be sure what's included, and what is optional...
The options are listed here below accessories:
https://www.siglenteu.com/spectrum-analyzers/ssa3000x-r/
There are 5 SW options for X-R and of note is the EMI software licensing which is currently offered in a promotional package with a nice set of near field probes when purchased with any Siglent SA:
https://int.siglent.com/info/detail-40.html

All SW licenses are active and free for 120hrs before you need consider any you might chose to purchase later as they each can be added at any time by the owner.
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #46 on: March 01, 2021, 07:15:08 am »
Thanks Tautech, those answers are really helpful.

If only Siglent would now provide clear and consistent information across its website, data sheets, and user manuals. After all, these are serious investments and the last thing you want is not knowing for sure what a device can do, and what not!

 
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #47 on: March 01, 2021, 07:20:47 am »
Thanks Tautech, those answers are really helpful.

If only Siglent would now provide clear and consistent information across its website, data sheets, and user manuals. After all, these are serious investments and the last thing you want is not knowing for sure what a device can do, and what not!
:)
Yes, email sent to them today.  ;)
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #48 on: April 19, 2021, 01:36:53 pm »
Are the SSA3032X-R, ...50X-R and 75X-R the same HW?

Does the option unlocking work for these the same way as for the SSA3000X/X-Plus?

Are there any model specific pitfalls to avoid for the SSA3032X-R?

Thanks much in advance + kudos to the wizards at work here...
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #50 on: April 19, 2021, 08:22:10 pm »
Thank you. I did see that post but I didn't think it answered my questions and I'm not clear on what procedure was used to achieve that. I must have missed something - will go back and read that thread a few more times...  :-[
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #51 on: April 19, 2021, 08:32:15 pm »

Are there any model specific pitfalls to avoid for the SSA3032X-R?
Yes with current FW there is a serious RBW limitation earlier SSA models do not have. Check datasheets.
Working with the factory to have this addressed.
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #52 on: April 27, 2021, 06:00:01 pm »
Scripts for NAND backup and telnet (port 10101).  TESTED OK

MUST use FW V3.2.2.4.0 or greater!
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #53 on: May 04, 2021, 07:24:52 pm »
Inside SSA3032X-R part 1/2
 
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #54 on: May 04, 2021, 07:26:20 pm »
Inside SSA3032X-R part 2/2
 
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #55 on: May 04, 2021, 07:31:42 pm »
VNA is a complete different device and has different hardware so, no upgrade is possible from Siglent SSA30xxX Plus to SSA30xxX-R.
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #56 on: May 04, 2021, 09:32:15 pm »
Many THX for your work and claryfication on this topic.
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #57 on: May 14, 2021, 01:53:14 pm »
Are there any more updates regarding the RBW limitation?
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #58 on: May 14, 2021, 09:07:35 pm »
Are there any more updates regarding the RBW limitation?
Yep but nothing official.
There will be new firmware to address this and considerable improvement has been made.
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #59 on: November 29, 2021, 08:38:54 pm »
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There will be new firmware to address this and considerable improvement has been made.

Unless I'm missing something, the latest firmware is still dated 2021-01-15 (v3.2.2.4.0). Is this correct?
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #60 on: November 29, 2021, 09:11:06 pm »
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There will be new firmware to address this and considerable improvement has been made.

Unless I'm missing something, the latest firmware is still dated 2021-01-15 (v3.2.2.4.0). Is this correct?
Welcome to the forum.

A V5 is not too far away but still has a few issues the factory is currently working on.
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #61 on: December 08, 2021, 03:23:59 pm »
f.y.i. Siglent has made firmware version V3.2.2.5.0 available now.

https://www.siglenteu.com/service-and-support/firmware-software/spectrum-analyzers/#ssa3000x-r

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #62 on: June 28, 2022, 02:58:36 pm »
New firmware for SSA3000X-R
SSA3000X-R Firmware_V3.2.2.5.1R1 (Release Date 06.28.22 )
https://www.siglenteu.com/download/13101/

Improvements:
• Optimize the Ref level and Att couple
• Add SCPI commands in MA Mode
•READ:ADEMod:AVG?
•[:SENSe]:ADEMod:FM:DEVI?
•[:SENSe]:ADEMod:FM:DRIFt?
•[:SENSe]:BWIDth[:RESolution]
•[:SENSe]:BWIDth[:RESolution]?
•[:SENSe]:BWIDth:EQLPf
•[:SENSe]:BWIDth:EQLPf?
•CALCulate:MARKer#:PTPeak
• Add Cable Atten to correct cable loss in DTF Mode
• Add .trc file in EMI Mode
• Add .lic file auto scan
Solved Issues:
• Fix the false signals in density view in RTSA mode
• Fix pi/4 DPSK 和 pi/8 DPSK decode errors in MA mode
• Fix calibration error when port extension on in VNA mode
• Fix fft frequency error in narrow span in SA mode
• Fix trace avg calculation error in SA mode
• Fix the zero sweep type when fft in SA mode
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #63 on: July 18, 2022, 09:02:31 pm »
Hello all.  Forum newbie here. 

I have a Siglent SSA 3032X-R RTSA @ 3.2 GHz model.  With latest 3.2.2.5.1R1 firmware upgrade installed.

I'm encountering what seems to be a glitch when I'm in the RTSA mode.  I've been working with Ohio to troubleshoot the problem, but they've been unable to duplicate my symptoms on their instruments.

The problem has to do with the Max Hold function in the RTSA/Density mode.   It doesn't work on my RTSA unless the Averaging is first set to a value other than 1! 

I'm not sure if it is appropriate to discuss this topic on the forum?

Regards,
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #64 on: July 29, 2022, 11:42:55 am »
Hi tautech,

a question to the SSA3032X-R specs:
What is the effective bandwidth in digital modulation analysis mode? The specs state a Symbol Rate of up to 25Msps * Points/Symbol --> max. 150Msps (approx. 100MHz eff. analysis BW), unlike the comment in same specs about: "The analysis BW is same with real-time BW in RTSA mode" --> so only max. 40MHz?  :-//
Furthermore, does the SSA really "manage" a 256 QAM with 4096 length data analysis? How fast does it?
Could you clarify and maybe show some modulation analysis testings - to get an idea of "real" analysis BW limits?

Many thanks!
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #65 on: July 30, 2022, 08:06:55 pm »
SSA3000X-R Service Manual
 
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #66 on: July 31, 2022, 03:36:47 pm »
Hello all.  Forum newbie here. 

I have a Siglent SSA 3032X-R RTSA @ 3.2 GHz model.  With latest 3.2.2.5.1R1 firmware upgrade installed.

I'm encountering what seems to be a glitch when I'm in the RTSA mode.  I've been working with Ohio to troubleshoot the problem, but they've been unable to duplicate my symptoms on their instruments.

The problem has to do with the Max Hold function in the RTSA/Density mode.   It doesn't work on my RTSA unless the Averaging is first set to a value other than 1! 

I'm not sure if it is appropriate to discuss this topic on the forum?

Regards,
Nelson - Seattle

Hi Nelson,

congratulations for your SSA3000X-R unit - I am evaluating the purchase of one, too.
Could you share your experience with some screenshots of Digital Modulation Analysis (i.e. 64QAM, 25Msps Symbol Rate, 4 Points/Symbol, 2048 length) with max. BW available?
As far as I have understood from the specs, the unit should have total <150Msps in that mode.
So, a 100MHz BW should be feasible. However, I found a note in the specs saying that max. analysis BW is limited to 40MHz  :-//
In addition, is the unit still workable (or far too slow) in Digital Modulation Analysis with setting of 256QAM, 25Msps and 4096 meas. length?

Many thanks!
Rob
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #67 on: August 26, 2022, 03:24:36 pm »
To follow up on my own post - I was able to demonstrate the problem on my instrument to Siglent Ohio.  Hoping for a firmware upgrade in the near future to remedy the problem.  This affected the Max Hold and the Averaging display in RTSA mode.
 
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #68 on: November 25, 2022, 02:46:23 pm »
SSA3032X-R -> SSA3075X-R

Hi tv84,

trying to upgrade the 3000X-R to 7.5GHz with keygen (option "3075") but without success - license rejected, however other options installed with success.

Help appreciated - many thanks!
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #69 on: November 25, 2022, 03:58:18 pm »
(option "3075") but without success - license rejected, however other options installed with success.

7075
 
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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #70 on: May 26, 2023, 09:42:54 am »
Should 3075 be replaced by 7075?
 

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Re: Siglent SSA3000X-R 5/7.5GHz Real-Time Spectrum Analyzer
« Reply #71 on: January 19, 2024, 05:21:13 pm »
Hello Everyone,

I think i found a possible bug with the EMI option in the SSA 3032X-R :

I run a scan from 150 kHz to 30 Mhz RF input terminated into 50R, 0 dB input attenuation, then i change the attenuation to 10 dB then to 20 dB.

To me it looks like it just adds the input attenuation to the trace and it this what is it suposed to do? Please look at the marker, i would have thoght is should show the same level at a given frequency.
Is there some option did i not activate?



 
 


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