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Siglent SSG3000X and SSG5000X series RF Signal generators
« on: September 06, 2018, 08:42:49 am »
SSG5000X
4 and 6 GHz models
Released May 2020
Pricing from $ 8809


https://int.siglent.com/products-overview/ssg5000x/
https://siglentna.com/rf-generators/ssg5000x-series/

Main Features
Frequency up to 4 GHz / 6 GHz
0.001 Hz frequency setting resolution
Maximum output power up to +26 dBm (typ.)
Phase Noise: -120 dBc/ Hz @ 1 GHz, 20 kHz offset (typ.)
Standard AM & FM & PM & Pulse modulation
Pulse train Generator  (option)
External IQ signal Generator (option)
High accuracy clock source (option)


SSG3000X
3.2 and 2.1 GHz models

https://www.siglentamerica.com/rf-generators/ssg3000x/
https://www.siglenteu.com/rf-generators/ssg3000x-series-of-signal-generators/





SSG3000X series RF signal source, output frequency range from 9 KHz to 3.2 GHz, standard AM & FM & PM analog modulation, pulse modulation, pulse sequencer, power meter control kit, etc., equipped with baseband source (eg: SDG 6000X), Implement IQ modulation for R&D, education, production, maintenance and other related fields.

Features
● Maximum frequency 2.1GHz/3.2 GHz
● Output frequency resolution up to 0.01Hz
● Output power range from +13dBm to -110dBm
● Phase noise <-110 dBc/Hz@1 GHz, offset 20 kHz (typical)
● Amplitude accuracy ≤ 0.7dB (typical)
● Support AM/FM/PM analog modulation, support internal and external modulation
● Pulse modulation function, the on-off ratio can reach 70dBc
● Pulse train generator, user-definable pulse sequence (optional)
● Supports external IQ modulation and outputs IQ modulated signals (optional)
● Power meter control kit for easy power meter measurement and control power output
● Support web remote control, which is convenient for users to remotely control devices
● 5-inch capacitive touch screen for user-friendly operation
● Rich communication interface: USB-HOST, USB DEVICE (USB-TMC), LAN (VXI-11, Socket, Telnet), optional GPIB

Datasheet:
https://www.siglentamerica.com/download/7543/

US Pricing:
SSG3021X          9 kHz~2.1 GHz        $2549   
SSG3032X          9 kHz~3.2 GHz        $4009   
« Last Edit: May 17, 2020, 12:35:09 pm by tautech »
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Re: Siglent SSG3000X series RF Signal generators
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2018, 03:50:54 pm »
Oooooh, shiny!

Looks expensive.
 
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Re: Siglent SSG3000X series RF Signal generators
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2018, 04:56:53 am »
● Power meter control kit for easy power meter measurement and control power output

Sounds interesting.
 

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Re: Siglent SSG3000X series RF Signal generators
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2018, 10:30:59 pm »
Looks very nice.
Any idea of its price point?
 

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Re: Siglent SSG3000X series RF Signal generators
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2018, 12:56:26 pm »
Hi. The units came out today. In Euro they are starting at 1999.00€ for the standard 2.1GHz version. Of course there are IQE versions and accessories available. I put everything together and the ultimate unit came out at just over 6,500.00€. Really awesome prices, if you compare them to the others in the market.
 

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Re: Siglent SSG3000X series RF Signal generators
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2018, 01:13:28 pm »
EUROPEAN pricing as below:
SSG3021X EURO 1999 + VAT
SSG3021X-EIQ EURO 4299 + VAT
SSG3032X EURO 3499 + VAT
SSG3032X-EIQ EURO 5699 + VAT

Pulse train Generator option EURO 819 + VAT
2.1 TO 3.2GHz BANDWIDTH UPGRADE EURO 1999 + VAT
RACK MOUNT KIT EURO 159 + VAT

to use the IQ you need a SDG6000X ARB gen series with IQ option installed

ENGLISH DATA SHEET
https://www.batterfly.com/PDF/Siglent/ssg3000x-datasheet.pdf
« Last Edit: October 30, 2018, 01:15:39 pm by simone.pignatti »
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Re: Siglent SSG3000X series RF Signal generators
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2018, 09:44:15 pm »
SSG3000X Series Signal Generator

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Re: Siglent SSG3000X series RF Signal generators
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2018, 05:01:02 pm »
Dragon has update, made by David...
 

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Re: Siglent SSG3000X series RF Signal generators
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2018, 05:32:52 pm »
eee... app name is dragon and binary listing shows ../home/david/.. as CodeSourcery

== volume siglent ==
drwxrwxrwx  2 1000  1000         688 2018-10-10 11:43:12 lib
-rwxrwxrwx  1 1000  1000       37230 2018-10-10 11:43:12 lib/ext_device_driver.so
-rwxrwxrwx  1 1000  1000      124489 2018-10-10 11:43:12 lib/libvncclient.so
-rwxrwxrwx  1 1000  1000      419792 2018-10-10 11:43:12 lib/libEasyLib.so
-rwxrwxrwx  1 1000  1000      294114 2018-10-10 11:43:12 lib/libvncserver.so
-rwxrwxrwx  1 1000  1000       24339 2018-10-10 11:43:12 lib/brusvxi11.so
-rwxrwxrwx  1 1000  1000      124489 2018-10-10 11:43:12 lib/libvncclient.so.1
-rwxrwxrwx  1 1000  1000      294114 2018-10-10 11:43:12 lib/libvncserver.so.1
drwxrwxrwx  3 1000  1000         224 2018-10-10 11:43:12 usr
drwxrwxrwx  2 1000  1000         160 2018-10-10 11:43:12 usr/usr
drwxrwxrwx  2 1000  1000         160 2018-10-10 11:43:12 firmdata0
-rwxrwxrwx  1 1000  1000       25032 2018-10-10 11:43:12 vncserver
drwxrwxrwx  2 1000  1000         160 2018-10-10 11:43:12 upgrade
-rwxrwxrwx  1 1000  1000     5966131 2018-10-25 06:58:49 dragon.app
drwxrwxrwx  6 1000  1000         504 2018-10-10 11:43:11 config
drwxrwxrwx  2 1000  1000         744 2018-10-10 11:43:11 config/arb
-rwxrwxrwx  1 1000  1000       32768 2018-10-10 11:43:11 config/arb/square_wav.bin
-rwxrwxrwx  1 1000  1000       32768 2018-10-10 11:43:11 config/arb/sin_wav.bin
-rwxrwxrwx  1 1000  1000       32768 2018-10-10 11:43:11 config/arb/1FFF.bin
-rwxrwxrwx  1 1000  1000        8192 2018-10-10 11:43:11 config/arb/iq.bin
-rwxrwxrwx  1 1000  1000       32768 2018-10-10 11:43:11 config/arb/sawtooth_wav.bin
-rwxrwxrwx  1 1000  1000       32768 2018-10-10 11:43:11 config/arb/2000.bin
-rwxrwxrwx  1 1000  1000       32768 2018-10-10 11:43:11 config/arb/triangle_wav.bin
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Re: Siglent SSG3000X series RF Signal generators
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2018, 09:49:02 pm »
Product ID = 15100
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-ads-firmware-file-format/msg1364981/#msg1364981

.ADS parsing:
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File Header Size: 00000070
00000000 - File Checksum: BBF25EE0 [00000004-008A17CE] (with only the File Header decrypted)  CKSM OK
00000004 - File Size: 008A175F (without 0x70 bytes of the File Header)
0000000C - Product_ID: 15100
00000026 - Vendor/Brand: SIGLENT
0000003A - USB Host Controller: ISP1763
****************************************************
Decrypting the 0x2800 and 0x1400 blocks...
Reversing file...
XORing with 0xFF (incrementing pattern)...
XORing with 0xFF from 0x00450BB0 until 0x008A175E
****************************************************
00000000 --- Section Checksum: B9DCD365
00000004 --- Section Size: 008A172B [00000034-008A175E]  CKSM OK
00000008 --- Section # 00000007
00000034 --- 008A175E  ***** ZIP file *****
Offset    Ver  Flag  Comp  Size      Packed    Modified             CRC32                          Name         Permissions     Extra Details
00000034  2.0  0000  0008  00119438  00002321  01-09-2016 11:44:22  B69FEE43  [0000005A-0000237A]  logo.bmp  MTime: 01-09-2016 04:44:44  ATime: 10-10-2018 12:29:51  CTime: 10-10-2018 12:29:51
0000237B  2.0  0000  0008  000001A8  000001AD  06-06-2018 23:35:09  5534B3D8  [000023A3-0000254F]  readme.txt  MTime: 06-06-2018 16:35:18  ATime: 10-10-2018 12:29:51  CTime: 10-10-2018 12:29:51
00002550  2.0  0000  0008  00880000  00597AB9  26-10-2018 09:14:06  735161E7  [00002579-0059A031]  siglent.img  MTime: 26-10-2018 02:14:13  ATime: 10-10-2018 12:27:48  CTime: 10-10-2018 12:27:48
0059A032  2.0  0000  0008  0030C730  003071C6  23-07-2018 17:28:18  F17F0C39  [0059A056-008A121B]  uImage  MTime: 23-07-2018 10:28:36  ATime: 10-10-2018 12:28:14  CTime: 10-10-2018 12:28:14
008A121C  2.0  0000  0008  00000B1B  00000340  17-10-2018 16:52:24  44D2343E  [008A1243-008A1582]  update.sh  MTime: 17-10-2018 09:52:49  ATime: 10-10-2018 12:29:51  CTime: 10-10-2018 12:29:51
Disk Entries: 5   Total Entries: 5   Directory Size: 454 bytes  [008A1583-008A1748]
****************************************************

Xilinx Zynq XC7Z020 device (top_dragon_zynq.bit) parsing:
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00000000 - 0009         (0x0009) File Header Length
00000002 - 0FF00FF0     (0x0FF00FF0) File Header Long 1
00000006 - 0FF00FF0     (0x0FF00FF0) File Header Long 2
0000000A - 00           (0x00) File Header Zero
0000000B - 0001         (0x0001) Key Length
0000000D - 61 0031      (key a) Design Name: top_dragon_zynq;UserID=0XFFFFFFFF;Version=2015.4
00000041 - 62 000C      (key b) Part Name: 7z020clg484
00000050 - 63 000B      (key c) Generation Date: 2018/09/28
0000005E - 64 0009      (key d) Generation Time: 10:22:53
0000006A - 65 003DBAFC  (key e) Bitstream Length: 003DBAFC  [0000006F-003DBB6A]
--------------  BITSTREAM  ------------------------
0000006F - FFFFFFFF             Padding
00000073 - FFFFFFFF             Padding
00000077 - FFFFFFFF             Padding
0000007B - FFFFFFFF             Padding
0000007F - FFFFFFFF             Padding
00000083 - FFFFFFFF             Padding
00000087 - FFFFFFFF             Padding
0000008B - FFFFFFFF             Padding
0000008F - 000000BB             Bus width auto detect, word 1
00000093 - 11220044             Bus width auto detect, word 2
00000097 - FFFFFFFF             Padding
0000009B - FFFFFFFF             Padding
0000009F - AA995566             Sync Word (BPI/SPI Mode)
000000A3 - 20000000             T1 - 00000000  NOP      (1x)
000000A7 - 30022001 00000000    T1 W 00000001  TIMER
000000AF - 30020001 00000000    T1 W 00000001  WBSTAR
000000B7 - 30008001 00000000    T1 W 00000001  CMD      NULL - No Operation
000000BF - 20000000             T1 - 00000000  NOP      (1x)
000000C3 - 30008001 00000007    T1 W 00000001  CMD      RCRC - Reset CRC
000000CB - 20000000             T1 - 00000000  NOP      (2x)
000000D3 - 30026001 00000000    T1 W 00000001  FALL_EDGE
000000DB - 30012001 02003FE5    T1 W 00000001  COR0
000000E3 - 3001C001 00000000    T1 W 00000001  COR1
000000EB - 30018001 03727093    T1 W 00000001  IDCODE
000000F3 - 30008001 00000009    T1 W 00000001  CMD      SWITCH - Switch CCLK Frequency
000000FB - 20000000             T1 - 00000000  NOP      (1x)
000000FF - 3000C001 00000401    T1 W 00000001  MASK
00000107 - 3000A001 00000501    T1 W 00000001  CTL0
0000010F - 3000C001 00000000    T1 W 00000001  MASK
00000117 - 30030001 00000000    T1 W 00000001  CTL1
0000011F - 20000000             T1 - 00000000  NOP      (8x)
0000013F - 30002001 00000000    T1 W 00000001  FAR
00000147 - 30008001 00000001    T1 W 00000001  CMD      WCFG - Write Config Data
0000014F - 20000000             T1 - 00000000  NOP      (1x)
00000153 - 30004000             T1 W 00000000  FDRI
00000157 - 500F6C78             T2 W 000F6C78
003DB343 - 20000000             T1 - 00000000  NOP      (2x)
003DB34B - 30008001 0000000A    T1 W 00000001  CMD      GRESTORE - Pulse GRESTORE Signal
003DB353 - 20000000             T1 - 00000000  NOP      (1x)
003DB357 - 30008001 00000003    T1 W 00000001  CMD      DGHIGH/LFRM - Last Frame Write
003DB35F - 20000000             T1 - 00000000  NOP      (100x)
003DB4EF - 30008001 00000005    T1 W 00000001  CMD      START - Begin Startup Sequence
003DB4F7 - 20000000             T1 - 00000000  NOP      (1x)
003DB4FB - 30002001 03BE0000    T1 W 00000001  FAR
003DB503 - 3000C001 00000501    T1 W 00000001  MASK
003DB50B - 3000A001 00000501    T1 W 00000001  CTL0
003DB513 - 30000001 E3AD7EA5    T1 W 00000001  CRC
003DB51B - 20000000             T1 - 00000000  NOP      (2x)
003DB523 - 30008001 0000000D    T1 W 00000001  CMD      DESYNC - Reset DALIGN Signal
003DB52B - 20000000             T1 - 00000000  NOP      (400x)

uImage parsing:
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00000000                 Magic: 27051956    uImage File OK
00000004         Header CRC-32: 160D89FC  [00000000-0000003F]    CRC OK
00000008               Created: 23-07-2018 09:27:37
0000000C             Data Size: 0030C6F0
00000010     Data Load Address: 00008000
00000014   Entry Point Address: 00008000
00000018           Data CRC-32: 7D30264F  [00000040-0030C72F]    CRC OK
0000001C      Operating System: Linux
0000001D      CPU Architecture: ARM
0000001E                  Type: OS Kernel Image
0000001F           Compression: None
00000020                  Name: Linux-3.19.1-xilinx-svn33403
00000040 - Image 0 [00000040-0030C72F]  0030C6F0 bytes
        000041AF - (Probable) GZIP block starts at this position!

Taken from the .app code (shows most of the ICs used):
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  dev_if_register_scpi_chip_access("fpga", write_fpga_register, read_fpga_register);
  dev_if_register_scpi_chip_access("cpld", write_cpld_register, read_cpld_register);
  dev_if_register_scpi_chip_access("ad5446", write_ad5446_register, read_ad5446_register);
  dev_if_register_scpi_chip_access("ad5660", write_ad5660_register, read_ad5660_register);
  dev_if_register_scpi_chip_access("ad5660_i", write_i_ad5660_register, read_i_ad5660_register);
  dev_if_register_scpi_chip_access("ad5660_q", write_q_ad5660_register, read_q_ad5660_register);
  dev_if_register_scpi_chip_access("ad9122", write_ad9122_register, read_ad9122_register);
  dev_if_register_scpi_chip_access("adc121", write_adc121s101_register, read_adc121s101_register);
  dev_if_register_scpi_chip_access("hmc703", write_hmc703_register, read_hmc703_register);
  dev_if_register_scpi_chip_access("lmk04806", write_lmk04806_register, read_lmk04806_register);
  dev_if_register_scpi_chip_access("m25p40", write_flash, read_flash);
  dev_if_register_scpi_chip_access("cpld_iq", write_iq_cpld_register, read_iq_cpld_register);
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Re: Siglent SSG3000X series RF Signal generators
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2018, 10:25:39 am »
Option licensing procedures:

SSG3000X = SSA3000X
 

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Re: Siglent SSG3000X series RF Signal generators
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2018, 05:21:45 pm »
What about the E-SafeNet at this time?
 

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Re: Siglent SSG3000X series RF Signal generators
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2018, 08:38:12 pm »
What about the E-SafeNet at this time?

I've seen it but it's a sample < 1024 bytes. If you know of any other Siglent Safenet file I might try its key. But, with only this one, it's impossible (due to the size) to discover the key.
 

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Re: Siglent SSG3000X series RF Signal generators
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2019, 09:30:55 am »
New tool.  :)
Quick screenshot taken with SSA3032X externally 10 MHz referenced to SSG3021X 10 MHz OUT.

2.1 GHz @ 0dB
N-N cable 6 GHz

1 MHz SPAN = yellow
100 Hz SPAN = cyan


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Re: Siglent SSG3000X series RF Signal generators
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2019, 08:45:37 pm »
Defpom takes a look at the base model SSG3021X 2.1 GHz RF gen.

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Re: Siglent SSG3000X series RF Signal generators
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2019, 10:34:21 pm »
Interestingly, the same Zync module gets used as in the SDG6000X series. I guess we can expect more intruments to be released by Siglent with this main control unit.
 

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Re: Siglent SSG3000X series RF Signal generators
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2019, 09:31:20 am »
New Firmware for SSG3000X models.

http://old.siglentamerica.com/USA_website_2014/Firmware&Software/firmware/SSG3000X_V1.0.3.1.19R2_EN.zip

Version: V1.0.3.1.19R2
30.5 MB

Changelog
1. Add the function of flatness, new version provide two types to fill the flatness table. One is automatically with the power sensor or according to set the frequency step or the points to fill the flatness table
2、 Add function of adjust reference accuracy
3、 Solution some bugs of pulse train function
4、 Optimize the AM performance
5、 Solution some bugs of the FM function
6、 Solution some bugs of the VNC control
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Re: Siglent SSG3000X series RF Signal generators
« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2019, 11:54:02 am »
Has anyone purchased one of these yet?
 

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Re: Siglent SSG3000X series RF Signal generators
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2019, 11:57:49 am »
Has anyone purchased one of these yet?
I can tell you the new FW hasn't meddled with the upgrade upgrades.  ;)
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Re: Siglent SSG3000X series RF Signal generators
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2019, 05:05:55 pm »
I can tell you the new FW hasn't meddled with the upgrade upgrades.  ;)
Can the non-IQ version be upgraded to IQ?
 

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Re: Siglent SSG3000X series RF Signal generators
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2019, 07:58:04 pm »
I can tell you the new FW hasn't meddled with the upgrade upgrades.  ;)
Can the non-IQ version be upgraded to IQ?
Sadly no.
The IQ HW is not installed in the 'non IQ' models and Defpom whips the lid off and confirms this.
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Re: Siglent SSG3000X series RF Signal generators
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2019, 08:21:33 pm »
No IQ upgrade. Just BW.
 
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Re: Siglent SSG3000X series RF Signal generators
« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2019, 07:25:18 am »
No IQ upgrade. Just BW.

Hi I'm going to buy a SSG3021X and I wanted to ask if you can indicate me step by step the procedure to upgrade to the 3.2 GHz version ....
thanks a lot

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Re: Siglent SSG3000X series RF Signal generators
« Reply #23 on: August 26, 2019, 10:33:12 am »
I can tell you the new FW hasn't meddled with the upgrade upgrades.  ;)
Can the non-IQ version be upgraded to IQ?
Sadly no.
The IQ HW is not installed in the 'non IQ' models and Defpom whips the lid off and confirms this.
Has anyone used the IQ modulation on these RF generators? Does it work? Someone has asked me to look into an RF generator with IQ modulation and I'm trying to compile a short list.
There are small lies, big lies and then there is what is on the screen of your oscilloscope.
 

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Re: Siglent SSG3000X series RF Signal generators
« Reply #24 on: August 26, 2019, 12:33:00 pm »
I can tell you the new FW hasn't meddled with the upgrade upgrades.  ;)
Can the non-IQ version be upgraded to IQ?
Sadly no.
The IQ HW is not installed in the 'non IQ' models and Defpom whips the lid off and confirms this.
Has anyone used the IQ modulation on these RF generators? Does it work? Someone has asked me to look into an RF generator with IQ modulation and I'm trying to compile a short list.
When you look at the pricing structure for the IQ equipped models I do wonder if the cheaper and certainly more capable option is to pair the SSG3kX base model with an IQ equipped SDG6022X.

Something you might want to ponder on.
Jump over to the SDG6kX thread and ask owners about IQ capability:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/siglent-sdg6000-series-awg_s/
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