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Re: Spectrum Analyzer - Rigol DSA815
« Reply #1000 on: July 29, 2019, 04:26:53 pm »
The 'Signal Seamless Capture' (SSC-DSA option) mode for the Rigol DSA705, DSA710, and DSA815/TG Spectrum Analyzers provide Real Time Spectrum Measurements over a 1.5 MHz Span.

Information about the DSA815 SSC-DSA / Signal Capture (SigCapture) Mode that may not be appreciated, or understood:  Note: Currently the preferred firmware for the DSA815's SSC-DSA mode is version 00.01.19.00.03, or later.

In the Signal Capture (SSC) mode the 'Trace Type - Max Hold' is always active, and as such is mutually exclusive (per Rigol) for each of the following:

1.) 'RT Trace' is Real Time using FFT mode - RT Trace 'ON'.
This mode is intended to capture and display short transient signals that otherwise would be missed.
2.) 'MaxHold' does NOT use the Real Time FFT mode - RT Trace 'OFF'.
This mode is NOT intended to necessarily capture, or display short transient signals with Real Time FFT 'OFF'. Although it may by chance eventually get most over a extra long sample period.
3.) '2FSK' uses Real Time using FFT mode.
This mode will is intended to capture and display short transient signals that otherwise would be missed.
Note: The basic difference between '2FSK' and 'RT Trace' modes is that '2FSK' mode is configured to automatically display 2FSK Frequency and Amplitude values for up to 6 different Frequency Peaks (up to 3 FSK signal pairs).

Press 'MaxHold Rst' to reset and restart a new 'Trace type - Max Hold' for either 1.) 'RT Trace', 2.) 'MaxHold', or 3.) '2FSK'  as/if required.

Note: If you don't want Trace Type - Max Hold always active then exit SigCapture mode and use one of the normal (non SSC) modes.

Edit: Deleted redundant reference to Max Hold and the mode descriptions.
        Added definition of SSC-DSA mode from the following Post below.
Edit: The preferred firmware for this changed from '00.01.19.00.02' to '00.01.19.00.03'.
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Re: Spectrum Analyzer - Rigol DSA815
« Reply #1001 on: July 29, 2019, 11:14:00 pm »
I should have included the following definition in the previous post of 'Information about the DSA815 SSC-DSA / Signal Capture (SigCapture) Mode':

The 'Signal Seamless Capture' (SSC-DSA option) mode for the Rigol DSA705, DSA710, and DSA815/TG Spectrum Analyzers provides Real Time Spectrum Measurements over 1.5 MHz.
 
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Re: Spectrum Analyzer - Rigol DSA815
« Reply #1002 on: July 29, 2019, 11:40:02 pm »
Re. DSA815 SSC-DSA/Signal Capture (SigCapture) Mode -
DSA815 Firmware Update 00.01.19.00.03, 2019-03-25, corrected the SSC-DSA spelling of SigCapture (had been SigCpature).

Edit:  I added the referenced Firmware Update here.  Download the two files (Part 1 and 2) and then change the suffix (only) of each from '.pdf' to '.rar'.  Then run 'DSA815-TG Firmware 00.01.19.00.03 Update.part1.rar' to decompress the the two files into a folder named 'DSA815-TG Firmware 00.01.19.00.03 Update' with the Firmware update.  Note that this Firmware is also applicable to the DSA705, DSA710 as well as the DSA815.
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Re: Spectrum Analyzer - Rigol DSA815
« Reply #1003 on: October 12, 2019, 05:17:23 pm »
FYI.  I added DSA700 and DSA815 Firmware Update 00.01.19.00.03, 2019-03-25, files for downloading in my previous post here.
 

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Re: Spectrum Analyzer - Rigol DSA815
« Reply #1004 on: November 17, 2019, 11:48:10 pm »
Hi could someone please send (PM) me Firmware 00.01.16.00.03

Thanks in advance  ;D
 

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Re: Spectrum Analyzer - Rigol DSA815
« Reply #1005 on: November 18, 2019, 01:15:17 am »
Hi could someone please send (PM) me Firmware 00.01.16.00.03

Thanks in advance  ;D

Hello gm0otb:  You don't need to work up to the latest firmware (FW).  Just install the latest FW (00.01.19.00.03) now and be done with it.

Edit:  By the way PM's don't have a capability for sending attachments.  For this you could provide a email address for yourself that does allow attachments.  Of course the sender could use a Drop Box, if he/she has one, and provide the requester a link to it.
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Re: Spectrum Analyzer - Rigol DSA815
« Reply #1006 on: November 18, 2019, 03:32:26 pm »
Cheers for the info :)
 

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Re: Spectrum Analyzer - Rigol DSA815
« Reply #1007 on: November 20, 2019, 12:47:34 am »
Hello,

I have an DSA815TG:
mainboard: 00.04
radioFPGA: 00.05
digitalboardFPGA: 00.04
firmware: 00.01.09
boot: 00.01.04

1) I still have time left for the trials
2) I would like to upgrade the SA firmware to get the 10Hz RBW but there is no other firmware available on the Rigol's website than 00.01.19.02 and after reading the Installation Instructions I realize that this latest firmware doesn't suit my FPGA and MOBO version (applicable model versions are 00.05 instead of my 00.04 for both MOBO and FPGA)

Could someone, please, message me copies of previous firmwares? (i hope they will be compatible with my mobo and digi boards)

I am not very skilled and I am not sure this is the best way to choose.
My idea is to upgrade first for the free 10Hz RBW and then if i wouldn't lose the TRIAL period go to perform the hardware MOD to keep this trial forever.

I will hightly apreciate any help,

Thank you very much in advance,

Toño,
 

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Re: Spectrum Analyzer - Rigol DSA815
« Reply #1008 on: November 20, 2019, 01:33:40 am »
Hello,  I have an DSA815TG:, mainboard: 00.04, radioFPGA: 00.05, digitalboardFPGA: 00.04, firmware: 00.01.09, . . . .   I will hightly apreciate any help, Thank you very much in advance,  Toño,
Hello Tono:
1. Go here to get the Rigol Keygen:
http://gotroot.ca/rigol/riglol-103d/
2. Go here to get DSA800 firmware 00.01.07: You are going to Down Grade to this.
http://gotroot.ca/rigol/DSA800_FW_00.01.07.zip
3. Go here to see what to do:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/rigol-dsa-815-tg-upgrade-hack/msg2789438/#msg2789438
Follow the Instructions I gave to VE7XDT for doing this:
  Down Grade your DSA800 Firmware (FW) to 00.01.07 as I instructed here.
  Do NOT install the Keygen Option License Code for !0 Hz RBW.
  Do NOT install the Keygen Option License Code for Tracking Generator.
  Install VSWR, EMI, and AMK Option License Codes.
3. After you have completed installation of the Options, verify that they are in your DSA800, and that your unit works Ok.
4. Install the latest FW available here: Don't Worry it Will Work Fine on your DSA800. Rigol's info that it won't is WRONG.  You will now have 10Hz RBW, VSWR, EMI, and AMK Official Options.
https://beyondmeasure.rigoltech.com/acton/formfd/1579/0025:d-000f/
If you have a problem downloading this FW send me a email address via a EEVblog PM (Personal Message) you have that allows attachments.
Note - EEVblog PM's DO NOT support Attachments!
If you have questions please ask me.  Ted

Edit: When you upgrade your FW to the latest use Rigol's FW Installation Procedure
(it comes with the FW when you download it). Do Not use the one I supplied for doing the FW Downgrade back to 00.01.07.
By the way even if your Options had timed out, I believe that this procedure would re-install them as Official.

Edit 11/20/2019:
I'm very sorry, I didn't notice before that you had Boot Loader .04. (Generally  with the Hardware you have, Boot Loader .02 or .03 is incorporated). Sorry you won't be able to go back to FW .07, and your only choice is to solder Pins 7 and 8 of IC  U1105 together (this should work fine).  Although you could install a secure/hidden toggle switch, but be WARNED! - Never change the switch's from OFF-ON or ON-OFF when the DSA800 is ON (turn the DSA800 'OFF' first).   The Data in U1105 can potentially get corrupted and you loose all the calibration data.
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Re: Spectrum Analyzer - Rigol DSA815
« Reply #1009 on: November 20, 2019, 12:18:09 pm »
Hello Ted,
First of all let me say Thank you very much for your help.

Unfortunately I haven't succeed, that is what i have done:

I've installed FW 00.01.07 on an empty USBDisk (file DSA_UpdateFile.sys)
Then inserted on my SA and turn it on but nothing happens. Pressing STORAGE I see my disk and the file on it on the SA
Then I've followed the steps on the Installation Instructions Troubleshooting: Inserting the USB and while the instrument is Starting Ive pressed continiously the PRESET button but to no avail. The USB is detected but no System upgrade starts.

My BOOT is 00.00.04
On your reply https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/rigol-dsa-815-tg-upgrade-hack/msg2789438/#msg2789438 you said:
"PS:  This only works on units with Boot Loader 01.02, or 01.0.  It will NOT work with Boot Loader .01.04."

So maybe this way is not valid for me or I am doing something wrong...

I hope you could guide me.

Thank you very much in advance,

Toño,


 

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Re: Spectrum Analyzer - Rigol DSA815
« Reply #1010 on: November 20, 2019, 12:26:28 pm »
Hello DSA800 Hackers:  I received a couple PMs asking me why I repeat 'Do Not install the Kegen's code for the '10 Hz RBW' and 'Tracking Generator' Options'. It is because some guys want to make sure that they have everything that the Riglol Keygen is capable of providing in the DSA800. Well these two Options are NOT Required, as the 'DSA800-TG' comes with a Tracking Generator (if you don't have a TG unit, you still won't, but it will falsely appear that you do) , and '10 Hz RBW' has been included in the firmware for the last several years. If you install them you will see repeat incidences of them when you view the DSA800s Installed Options, and that is a dead give away that someone played with the Rigol Option Installations, etc.  I like to the keep the DSA800 clean and simple without adding miscellaneous un-required (potential corruption) data in the units OS. Although no operational problems have been observed from the dual installation of these two Options.
 
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Re: Spectrum Analyzer - Rigol DSA815
« Reply #1011 on: November 20, 2019, 12:56:34 pm »
Hello Ted,
First of all let me say Thank you very much for your help.
Unfortunately I haven't succeed, that is what i have done:  -> My BOOT is 00.00.04
So maybe this way is not valid for me or I am doing something wrong...     I hope you could guide me.    Toño,
Damn, I'm very sorry, I didn't notice that you had Boot Loader .04.  (Generally  with the Hardware you have, Boot Loader .02 or .03 is incorporated). Sorry you won't be able to go back to FW .07, and your only choice is to solder Pins 7 and 8 of IC  U1105 together (this should work fine).  Although you could install a secure/hidden toggle switch, but be WARNED! - Never change the switch's from OFF-ON or ON-OFF when the DSA800 is ON (turn the DSA800 'OFF' first).   The Data in U1105 can potentially get corrupted and you loose all the calibration data.
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Re: Spectrum Analyzer - Rigol DSA815
« Reply #1012 on: November 20, 2019, 01:31:14 pm »
Hello again Ted,

I see.
I think i would prefer the 10Hz RBW option by default with the newer FWs even losing the remaining trial time. Or maybe there is any workaround to be able to install the latest firmware plus soldering the pins to keep trial forever?

I downloaded last FW from Rigol's site and then i read the following:
***********************************
[Important Notices]
   
Applicable models and component versions:
    ------ Embedded software version number: 00.01.09 and later
    ------ BOOT version number: 00.01.04 and later
    ------ Digital FPGA version number: 00.05 and later
    ------ RF FPGA version number: 00.05 and later
    ------ Main board version number: 00.05 and later
*****************************************
It seems that last firmware is not compatible with my MOBO 00.04 and FPGABO 00.05

Is there any way to get a previous firmware i could install with my MOBO and FPGA (both 00.04) that brings me the 10Hz improvement?


Thank you very much in advance,

Toño


 

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Re: Spectrum Analyzer - Rigol DSA815
« Reply #1013 on: November 20, 2019, 02:13:30 pm »
Tono:  I think if you first install a solder connection across U1105 pins 7 and 8, and then install FW .19 that  you will still have all your Trial Options preserved, and also 10 Hz RBW.  Seeing you are willing to sacrifice the other Trials for 10 Hz RBW (I would also choose this path if I were you), you don't have much to loose by doing this if I'm wrong.  There was an earlier version of FW that would initially cause the loss of Trials, although they could still be recovered, but now that doesn't happen with the latter FWs.  I use a Firmware Write Protect (FWP) switch on both a DSA815 (w/Boot .04) and 875 and there is no issue with installing new FW with the FWP switch always ON.  My Rigol Options are all permanent, and I only use the FWP for retaining my preferred Default (vs. the factories) settings in my units.
I can send you my FWP Switch Installation Instructions if you like, but I would need a email address for you that allows the use of attachments. I previously posted them here a few times, for a week or so at a time, and then removed them along with another 80 to 100 of other postings.  Ted
Edit: If you decide that you want the Instructions send me your email address via a PM.  I will only use it for your info, will not share it, and I will discard it after you confirm that you have received your requested info. The attachment will be compressed with WinRAR. You can use WinRAR, UnZIP, etc to un-compress it.  You can also go to https://www.rarlab.com to download a full trial version of WinRAR to use,
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Re: Spectrum Analyzer - Rigol DSA815
« Reply #1014 on: November 20, 2019, 02:48:26 pm »
Hello again Ted, It seems that last firmware is not compatible with my MOBO 00.04 and FPGABO 00.05,  Toño
I'm quite sure that it is compatible.  I have installed it on all of the previous hardware and software versions of the DSA815-TGs.  You can send me a six pack of beer, Thank You Card, flowers, or etc. when you see all this working for you.  Just kidding of course, but please go for it.  I won't be leaving town anytime soon.  Ted
 
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Re: Spectrum Analyzer - Rigol DSA815
« Reply #1015 on: December 09, 2019, 06:15:15 pm »
Hello,

I have a DSA 815TG with boot: 00.01.04 and enable WP

I lose my free trial time with Firmware 00.01.17.00.04.
With Firmware 00.01.19.00.03 the trial come not back.
Than I try Firmware 00.01.16.00.03 and the trial are back.
After installing Firmware 00.01.19.00.03 the trial are away again.

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Re: Spectrum Analyzer - Rigol DSA815
« Reply #1016 on: December 12, 2019, 10:14:52 pm »
So I have a question.
I have an 815 which didn’t come with the tracking generator. Has anyone retrofitted one of these. Is it simply a case of installing a connector on the main board and adding the key from the Keygen as is usually discouraged above for those that already have it one installed?

I didn’t purchase it from new because otherwise I would have got the TG hands down.
 

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Re: Spectrum Analyzer - Rigol DSA815
« Reply #1017 on: December 12, 2019, 11:14:36 pm »
As far i am aware, needs to be fitted from the factory, Think you have missing components not just the N type.
 

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Re: Spectrum Analyzer - Rigol DSA815
« Reply #1018 on: December 14, 2019, 11:31:28 pm »
Hello to all!  Is there anyone here who bought some option for the new dsa815 hardware version?
I need your serial number and code.  For experiment
 

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Re: Spectrum Analyzer - Rigol DSA815
« Reply #1019 on: December 15, 2019, 10:58:10 am »
Gentlemen,

Try dumping your own 4MB flash memory using the SCPI method:

https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/spectrum-analyzer-rigol-dsa815/msg518691/#msg518691

With the dump, we can try something different...  ;)
 
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Re: Spectrum Analyzer - Rigol DSA815
« Reply #1020 on: December 15, 2019, 08:13:29 pm »
Ahh poop. Haven’t received it in the post yet but am getting excited about it coming.
I guess the only way to find out is to pull it apart when it gets here and see for sure
I’ll keep you guys updated. Can’t imagine it’s anything I couldn’t buy and solder on with a little bit of firmware magic. Might be asking kindly if I have a silkscreen with missing parts of the PCB in a picture, if someone with those populated parts can show me theirs too ;)

TBC...
 

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Re: Spectrum Analyzer - Rigol DSA815
« Reply #1021 on: December 17, 2019, 07:19:26 pm »
@egonotto,

Here is FW v1.09.
 
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Re: Spectrum Analyzer - Rigol DSA815
« Reply #1022 on: December 18, 2019, 03:11:59 am »
Hello egonotto: You can use PeDre's (Peter Dreisiebner) program 'Measuring Instruments' to send SCPI commands and License Keys via USB to the DDA815 and other Rigol equipment:
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://peter.dreisiebner.at/messinstrumente/index.htm
 
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Re: Spectrum Analyzer - Rigol DSA815
« Reply #1023 on: December 18, 2019, 03:26:18 am »
Hello ted572,

I have trouble with the USB driver. But I have used RigolBildschirmkopie from Peter Dreisiebner. This works fine with ethernet and has a submenu 
SCPI-Kommando....

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Re: Spectrum Analyzer - Rigol DSA815
« Reply #1024 on: December 18, 2019, 03:43:49 am »
egonotto: Did you install the required Zadig USB Driver? Although I think Bildschirmkopie will also work, but it has been a very long time since I used it, and I think it was via Ethernet.
 
I attached the instructions for installing the Zadig USB Driver in case you don't have it.
 
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