Spectrum Analyzer - Rigol DSA815

[autoelectra]

Hello,

mainboard: 00.08
radioFPGA: 00.05
digitalboardFPGA: 00.05
firmware: 00.01.16
boot: 00.01.04

I updated with firmware 01.19, the trials disappeared.Something later, I made a downgrade to 01.16, the trials are still not here.
Earlier I had once made from 1.17 (trials lost) to 1.16, at 1.16 they were immediately there again. 

After 34 hours of switch-on time (the original remaining time was 34 hours) the trials came back, but I loses some hours, I thought, that I have to wait the same time and have the analyzer on, but that was a big mistake, I lost about 7hours, now I have only 27hours of trial time, instead of 34 hours. I think this could also be a reason that other users here have permanently lost the trials, because they didn't time it right. So if you only have a few hours left, hands off upgrades!!!

I`m a radio amateur, but my use is only non-commercial, so I find the discussion very good.
Actually,I have problems with an old Transceiver: Icom 1271E, there is not outputpower, I substituted predriver and power module, without success, for these measurements,I need an analyzer, oscilloscopes are very expensive in this frequency-area.I have an signal-generator from Agilent(E4420B)  until 2Ghz,too and some older equipment: Modulation Analyzer from Rohde-Schwarz from the 80s.

But for commercial use this discussion with trials is secondary. But I also think, no one can forbid to interfere with the equipment, even an opening, should not give a loss of warranty. I still have warranty stickers, which I gladly send, even worldwide.

[ytterligare]

I know...I'm guilty....after few years did not read all the post here and upgrded my fram-hacked DSA 815 to 1.19 from 1.15 and lost all the time counters which were nicely 29 hours every power-on and now they're 0.

I'd like to try to downgrade to 1.16 to try to recover them as someone seems to have been able to do it.

Can someone point me to a link to 1.16, pretty please ? I know this topic isn't hot anymore, but a little help is appreciated....

Thank you
A. 

[TurboTom]

Just leave the instrument running for some time with the FRAM unlocked. The eval counter will eventually reset and your trial licenses will become active again. After that, you can write protect the FRAM once again.

[ytterligare]

Hello Tom, Thank you for the reply...does it mean I will have to open the 815 again and desolder the connection, close it, wait for the reset, reopen it, re-solder, re-close it ?

Would it be anyway better to try downgrade to 1.16 or 1.17 before embarking in the above procedure ?

Tnx

[tv84]

Can you obtain this information?

*IDN?
:PRIVate:FACTory:SKEY?

If so, pm me and I may be able to help you. 

[ytterligare]

Can you obtain this information?

If so, pm me and I may be able to help you. 

You've got PM, tnx buddy ! 

[laydn]

Hello,

Can anyone please share the firmware version 00.01.12 ?    I want to get the log x-axis on my unit. My Digital FPGA board revision is 00.04, so I can't really upgrade to the latest 01.19 revision.

Thank you,

[Vtech]

Hello,

Can anyone please share the firmware version 00.01.12 ?    I want to get the log x-axis on my unit. My Digital FPGA board revision is 00.04, so I can't really upgrade to the latest 01.19 revision.

Thank you,

Here you go.

There is a large archive of DSA815 firmwares somewhere here. I don't remember exactly where.

[laydn]

I can not find any information on which release introduced log-X axis functionality? The release notes don't seem to have that information. Anybody have that information handy?

[laydn]

@PeDre: I downloaded the 7z package from your web site, thanks. I opened the rev 12 folder, but I do not see any information about the version compatibility. I understand that some revisions require certain hardware firmware versions, otherwise the unit may not function. My unit is quite old so I want to find this information. I already have an e-mail out to Rigol support, but just thought maybe someone on this forum knows.    (For example Rev 9 in your zip file has a Version Notes.doc file which has this information for that revision)

Thanks

[laydn]

Hello PeDre,

Oh I see. I thought some of these versions are hardware revisions (especially that "main board" revision since it had no mention of any software/firmware/FPGA/CPLD).... It looks like they are all software revisions then? So, if I install, 8,9,10,.... 19,  all in order, I should be fine I think.   Your zip had everything except 10 and 11. If I find those from somewhere then I should be all set. On to more searching and googling.

Many thanks,

[laydn]

This page seems to indicate those versions were also available, but maybe they never opened to public? I don't know.

https://beyondmeasure.rigoltech.com/acton/attachment/1579/f-7fa14216-f3c1-47da-92a7-1c6fb94aa11f/1/-/-/-/-/DSA700-DSA815%20Release%20Notes.txt?sid=TV2:Q2jKaGpUj

[tv84]

This is the parsing of v1.19:

Code: [Select]

00000000 - File Type: DSA800
00000010 - Version: 00000001
00000014 - # Sections: 23
Offset    StartAdr  SectiSz   LoadAddr                       CRC32
00000018  0000012C  00004FC4  002EC1B0  [0000012C-000050EF]  64CFEB60
00000024  000050F0  0003C1B0  002B0000  [000050F0-0004129F]  A4370BCB
00000030  000412A0  0000768B  00340000  [000412A0-0004892A]  5E9CAB87  Messages Strings
0000003C  0004892C  00004103  00350000  [0004892C-0004CA2E]  2A1DDCFB
00000048  0004CA30  00000A87  00360000  [0004CA30-0004D4B6]  6E34A148  Menus Strings
00000054  0004D4B8  0000189D  00363000  [0004D4B8-0004ED54]  D3BB87A7  Menus Strings
00000060  0004ED58  0000172E  00366000  [0004ED58-00050485]  89D6BC3A  Menus Strings
0000006C  00050488  000024BA  00369000  [00050488-00052941]  C4A2148D
00000078  00052944  00003010  0036C000  [00052944-00055953]  A2B75774  Language Strings
00000084  00055954  00003484  00290000  [00055954-00058DD7]  43D2459E  Language Strings
00000090  00058DD8  0000326C  00294000  [00058DD8-0005C043]  3AADF316  Language Strings
0000009C  0005C044  00001F92  00298000  [0005C044-0005DFD5]  38DEF018
000000A8  0005DFD8  000015D4  0029C000  [0005DFD8-0005F5AB]  95D48AF4  Menus Strings
000000B4  0005F5AC  000180F4  00300000  [0005F5AC-0007769F]  70B6F010  SCPI Commands Help
000000C0  000776A0  000115DA  00320000  [000776A0-00088C79]  77E4920C  SCPI Commands Help
000000CC  00088C7C  000C4091  00180000  [00088C7C-0014CD0C]  AD2E0BE1  FPGA .bit
000000D8  0014CD10  00011C52  00270000  [0014CD10-0015E961]  E17D4E68  FPGA .bit
000000E4  0015E964  00011C52  00270000  [0015E964-001705B5]  7FAC1865  FPGA .bit
000000F0  001705B8  0000165D  002A0000  [001705B8-00171C14]  08F72B5D  I2C EEPROM - VID: 0547  PID: 2131
000000FC  00171C18  000C58C3  00080000  [00171C18-002374DA]  0FB5672A  LZMA app block
Decompressed LZMA block [00171C18-002374DA]  Comp Sz: 000C58C3  Decomp Sz: 002B4C90
00000108  002374DC  00000005  00370022  [002374DC-002374E0]  43CBA051  FW Version: 00.01.19.00.03
00000114  002374E4  00000004  0037F000  [002374E4-002374E7]  E295A55E  "0002"
00000120  002374E8  00022374  00150000  [002374E8-0025985B]  97495F89  LZMA FPGA .bit block
Decompressed LZMA block [002374EC-0025985B]  Comp Sz: 00022370  Decomp Sz: 000C3F7D
I don't think there is any need to do an incremental upgrade because, AFAIK, v1.19 has all the FPGA bitstreams necessary.

BTW, I don't think 1.10 or 1.11 were ever public so you surely don't need them.

Of course, follow the Installation Instructions of package you are installing, namely the "Applicable models and component versions: ".

[tv84]

From memory, I was able to update to version 01.18, but then the DSA no longer booted. The error was, I had omitted the version 01.13 and the FPGA board was not updated to the version 00.05. Only after I updated the versions from 01.12 to 01.18 one after the other, the version 01.18 worked again.

@laydn

I'm usually a disciple of the experimental method. Listen to Peter and forget otherwise.

[laydn]

Thank you. I went all the way up to ver 15, installing one-by-one. So far no issues. I think I'll stop here since I seem to have the log X-axis now and versions 16 to 19 does not seem to have any important updates according to the release notes.

[Trx]

Hi All,

my DSA815-TG shows this info:

Version of Main Board: 00.09
Version of Radio Frequency Board FPGA: 00.05
Version of Digital Board FPGA: 00.05
Version of Firmware: 00.01.19
Version of Boot: 00.01.04

Serial#   Option      Option Type   Active
1      TG-DSA800   Official      Y
2      AMK-DSA800   Trial         Y
3      EMI-DSA800   Trial         Y
4      VSWR-DSA800   Trial         Y
5      SSC-DSA      None         N

I have crawled through the thread. This is what I have understood:

- Boot 00.01.04 does not allow to downgrade to use riglol to permanently enable AMK, EMI, and VSWR.

- Connecting pin7/8 at u1105 prevents the remaining count-down trial time to be written to FRAM. With a permanent connection between pin7/8, some system settings will also not be written (LAN settings, USB settings, calibration data?).
=> What exactly are the settings, not stored?

- When using a switch between pin7/8 of u1105 the DSA must be switched off, then the switch may be altered, then the DSA can be switched on again. NEVER alter the switch while running the DSA or some data might get corrupted. And: Every time the DSA is started with pin7/8 open to allow changes to be written, a little amount of trial time will get lost again.

- Some guys reported that some other features/functions might not work or some erroneous behaviour might occur when using the dsa while pin7/8 are connected.
=> Right or wrong?

- There shall be an alternative solution using a PIC, that somehow prevents the trial time to be written. I have only read that there is a PIC solution, but nothing further.
=> Please can someone give a link or further information on that point?

=> Besides that, is there any option to enable SSC-DSA?

=> Are there other options I have not read?

Many thanks,

[free71xu]

Mr. tv84,

THANK YOU VERY MUCH INDEED for helping me to unlock the Licensed options!
My appliance has became much more valuable right now.

5 stars!!!

Hello Mr. ssaenek,

I have same DSA815 as yours, could you let me know how you solved the license issue?

Thanks,

[lepi]

Hello everyone

Im recently receive al rigol 815 and got the firmware 00.01.15   

mi stupid head think  and actualize the firmware...  to the latest version 00.01.19   anddddd,,,
missing the  3 options forever trial installed

I try to reactivate with the keygen  but not obtained good result.

PLease any Help
Thanks Lepi

[tv84]

PLease any Help

Empty your inbox.

[lepi]

ok  TV84  the box is empty now sorry

[lepi]

Dear TV84
I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for the help you have given me ...
QRV for whatever you need.

[notjj]

Hey all...

So I have a DSA815 with the hated 1.04 boot. I just upgraded it to 00.01.19 due to it being on 00.01.12 to try and get the png/jpg export formats... seems this was ill advised as now all my trial licenses have gone to 0hrs left (the scope has the pin 7/8 jumper hack).

Is there any way to recover the trial licenses or am I just SOL at this point?

[Fastload]

Hi TV84,

I have the same problem as Lepi in the thread https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/spectrum-analyzer-rigol-dsa815/msg3715525/#msg3715525

I'm curious as to how you helped him, that would certainly help me also.

Regards

Eric.

[Fastload]

Dear TV84,

thanks a million..

Regards

[rmaranhao]

Hi All,

my DSA815-TG shows this info:

Version of Main Board: 00.09
Version of Radio Frequency Board FPGA: 00.05
Version of Digital Board FPGA: 00.05
Version of Firmware: 00.01.19
Version of Boot: 00.01.04

Serial#   Option      Option Type   Active
1      TG-DSA800   Official      Y
2      AMK-DSA800   Trial         Y
3      EMI-DSA800   Trial         Y
4      VSWR-DSA800   Trial         Y
5      SSC-DSA      None         N

I have crawled through the thread. This is what I have understood:

- Boot 00.01.04 does not allow to downgrade to use riglol to permanently enable AMK, EMI, and VSWR.

- Connecting pin7/8 at u1105 prevents the remaining count-down trial time to be written to FRAM. With a permanent connection between pin7/8, some system settings will also not be written (LAN settings, USB settings, calibration data?).
=> What exactly are the settings, not stored?

- When using a switch between pin7/8 of u1105 the DSA must be switched off, then the switch may be altered, then the DSA can be switched on again. NEVER alter the switch while running the DSA or some data might get corrupted. And: Every time the DSA is started with pin7/8 open to allow changes to be written, a little amount of trial time will get lost again.

- Some guys reported that some other features/functions might not work or some erroneous behaviour might occur when using the dsa while pin7/8 are connected.
=> Right or wrong?

- There shall be an alternative solution using a PIC, that somehow prevents the trial time to be written. I have only read that there is a PIC solution, but nothing further.
=> Please can someone give a link or further information on that point?

=> Besides that, is there any option to enable SSC-DSA?

=> Are there other options I have not read?

Many thanks,

Sorry to see no one answered, I have the exact same doubts. I guess I will just stick a switch in mine.