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psycho0815:
Hi, when i started messing with electronics about a year ago, i got myself a Rigol DS1052E basically, just to figure out, whether or not i really need a DSO and which features i do need and which i don't. Turns out i do need one, pretty much everytime i work on something. And while i still think the Rigol is a good buy, there are some features it lacks and some things, that just annoy the heck out of me. So, i think i should propably move on. So the question i'd like your help with is: to what?

What i need feature-wise:
4 channels
100 MHz
Serial Decoding on analog channels.
If it has a full LA i could do with 2 Channels. But i would use the LA almost exclusively for Serial stuff  (I2C,SPI,UART) so 4 Analog Channels seems to be more versatile for my purposes, in the end that would pretty much come down to price i guess.
>1MPts Memory
Bigger Screen than the Rigol. Preferable VGA or better.

Now the 100MHz are negeotiable. So far i'm getting along nicely with the 50MHz of the Rigol, but i'd like to keep the new one for a while, and 100MHz seem like a good compromise between Bandwidth and price. If the Scope is upgradeable, 50MHz or 70MHz would be ok.

Now after the hard facts some of the Rigols annoyances i want addressed:
I want seperate vertical controls for each channel. The combined control of the Rigol drives me mad!
Also i'd like to have a dedicated "Singleshot"-Button. This Seems to be pretty much standard on all midrange-scopes i've seen so far, but i thought i'd mention it anyways.

Budget: Well basically, as little as i can get away with and as much as it takes to get what i want. But for the sake of argument let's say <2000€.

The scopes i have looked at so far that seem to fit the bill:

Agilent DSO 2014, also the seem to be strangely hard to find in Germany and i'm not sure if the BW is upgradeable, Also the options are a bit on the high side.
Rigol DS4000, looks good, but is a bit more expensive than i'd like.
Hameg HMO1024 - No seperate vertical controls

And as an aside it would be great, if it comes with linux software, I wouldn't hold my breath for that one though.

I'd appreciate your input and suggestion. Especially on other brands i missed so far (lecroy, tektronix?). Also i read here on the forum, that agilent sells off, demo-units and refurbished ones on ebay. Do you know if any other manufacturer does something simmiliar?


Thanks and Cheers,

Psycho

Hydrawerk:
Consider buying the GW Instek GDS-2104A. It has interesting specs. But I have not seen this scope in use yet. It might be difficult to get firmware upgrade...  :-/O
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/gds-2000a-new-economic-oscilloscope-by-gw-instek-comes-to-market/

olsenn:
I'm in the same position as you; I currently own a DS1052E (hacked to be a DS1102E) and I am likely to be upgrading to the DS4024 over the next couple of days (200MHz, 4-ch, 4GSa/s). It is more expensive than I would have liked, but it still looks to be cheaper than its competitors (Agilent...)

You are highly unlikely to find a better DSO with sub-100MHz bandwidth than the DS2072 (costs around $900). However, this DSO only has two channels. I somehow imagine you may be better off sticking with your DS1052E (maybe soft upgrading it to 100MHz for free) and purchasing a cheap little logic analyzer. Your call though

jpb:
The Agilent DSOX2014 only has 100Kpts of memory, also it doesn't do serial decode.

One option to consider is looking out for scopes on Agillent's ebay shop, though they still tend to be quite pricey. Beware also that some come with full warranty (the Centiprime ones) while others don't (they just have 7 days). The following one may be of interest (despite what I wrote about the lack of memory and no decode!):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Agilent-PREMIUM-USED-MSOX2024A-Mixed-Signal-Oscilloscope-/181094563240?pt=BI_Oscilloscopes&hash=item2a2a13bda8

mikeselectricstuff:

--- Quote from: jpb on March 11, 2013, 03:43:54 pm ---The Agilent DSOX2014 only has 100Kpts of memory, also it doesn't do serial decode.

One option to consider is looking out for scopes on Agillent's ebay shop, though they still tend to be quite pricey. Beware also that some come with full warranty (the Centiprime ones) while others don't (they just have 7 days). The following one may be of interest (despite what I wrote about the lack of memory and no decode!):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Agilent-PREMIUM-USED-MSOX2024A-Mixed-Signal-Oscilloscope-/181094563240?pt=BI_Oscilloscopes&hash=item2a2a13bda8

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If you look at their feedback you'll notice they are amenable to offers - they took mine of 10% off recently.
the older 5/6/7000 ones may be better value in terms of functionality, especially with the trial license 'bonus' ;)

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