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Super Ultra stable Aneng 8008
« on: September 29, 2019, 12:18:19 am »
Just replace the electrolytic caps on the filter for the digital ADC with 6 ceramic smd caps 96nf each + 1 tantalum 630uf
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Re: Super Ultra stable Aneng 8008
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2019, 12:30:23 am »
The only 1 problem with this multimeter is the mechanical switcher :(
Basically when i'm going to set the Ohm range i need to not miss the perfect spot for the switcher,because the multimeter will play with random numbers ...
So basically at this point i still need to check the switcher and see what's going on there.
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Re: Super Ultra stable Aneng 8008
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2019, 01:01:34 am »
SMART TWEEZERS LCR Meter Model ST5S VS Aneng 8008 with replaced caps on ADC
 

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Re: Super Ultra stable Aneng 8008
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2019, 06:16:04 am »
I'm unsure what you are improving, as you haven't identified a problem or defined it. 

Why is this thread called 'super ultra' - when there is no benchmark or reference test of stability?  Do you mean it is just has a stable display?

Are you just applying extra filtering to the battery dc supply to the chip?  If you want to do that appropriately then you need to apply the filtering as close to the chip as possible.

 
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Re: Super Ultra stable Aneng 8008
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2019, 07:02:23 am »
I don't want to be mean , but at the end of the day is just a very cheap chinese multimeter , whatever you do ... better then others cheap multimeters but that's about it .
 

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Re: Super Ultra stable Aneng 8008
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2019, 07:50:01 am »
Well it is a very accurate meter for some types of testing and far exceeds the accuracy I often need, and I would typically round down the digits if I was to record certain measurements.  And it is very convenient when I can connect 2 or 3 meters to equipment to know what is going on as things change, and that can reduce the risk of continuously having to swap probe positions to confirm status or make changing measurements.  And it's effectively 'free' - so at the end of the day it is a meter and a very convenient meter to have a few on hand at the bench.
 

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Re: Super Ultra stable Aneng 8008
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2019, 09:23:28 am »
I have made this topic,because a lot of users which own's this dmm have the same common problem regarding the slowness and random reading on the Ohm range.
So basically there is noting of wrong if i call my topic Super ultra stable aneng especially when i've fixed it's childish sickness from factory.
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Re: Super Ultra stable Aneng 8008
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2019, 10:19:29 am »
This was done ages ago:

https://hackaday.com/2017/11/24/a-few-caps-for-a-faster-multimeter/

There's a whole thread about modding these meters on here somewhere but I can't find it.  :(

Good to keep the idea alive though, never forget!
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Re: Super Ultra stable Aneng 8008
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2019, 10:37:41 am »
This was done ages ago:

https://hackaday.com/2017/11/24/a-few-caps-for-a-faster-multimeter/

There's a whole thread about modding these meters on here somewhere but I can't find it.  :(

Good to keep the idea alive though, never forget!

Yes! i'm perfectly aware of that,but in any case after my so called "RESEARCHes" i found that ceramics or tantalum caps are the the best for this kind of task and this is because the electrolytic caps tend to jam the measurments.
This effect is caused due charge/discharge after you turn on or off this particular model of DMM.
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Re: Super Ultra stable Aneng 8008
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2019, 12:07:25 pm »
electrolytic caps tend to jam the measurments.
Is this what you and others have observed?  What is the actual observation?
I've never had anything abnormal happen with just an electrolytic as filter.
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Re: Super Ultra stable Aneng 8008
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2019, 12:17:42 pm »
Is this what you and others have observed?  What is the actual observation?
I've never had anything abnormal happen.
Maybe because my electrolitycal caps are bad or whatsoever,btw my multimeter with electrolytical caps do bouncing measurements and can't never settle to some point
 

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Re: Super Ultra stable Aneng 8008
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2019, 04:26:13 pm »
the next step would be replace 4M oscillator
my stable with 12 ( if i remember right) , caps measure you need to divide :) and beeper sound too thin ... ; but it really fast now

i have another one it works with 24M ( was 4M), super fast,  i use it to probe resistors ....  an auto range count down in a blink ...

upd:  TO-92 are Vref,  next to are small cap shunt, that not enough,    so 1-10uf tant.  would be much better ....
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Re: Super Ultra stable Aneng 8008
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2019, 09:20:32 am »
sorry for necroposting
but no new posts about anangs
why?

is it became common gear now or nobodys use it?
 

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Re: Super Ultra stable Aneng 8008
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2019, 11:06:14 am »
Because there's nothing else to say about it?
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Re: Super Ultra stable Aneng 8008
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2019, 11:20:47 am »
Because there's nothing else to say about it?

is it bad or good?
 

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Re: Super Ultra stable Aneng 8008
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2019, 11:40:18 am »
Good for electronics hobbyists who never go above 24vdc or so, bad for anything more serious.
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Re: Super Ultra stable Aneng 8008
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2019, 10:54:47 pm »
sorry for necroposting
but no new posts about anangs
why?

is it became common gear now or nobodys use it?

It’s not necroposting to reply to a thread that is just 2 weeks old!!! That’s barely a nap!

The unrelated question, however, is a faux pas.
 

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Re: Super Ultra stable Aneng 8008
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2019, 01:55:37 am »
I don't even think these are that dangerous because they usually fail on me as soon as they're near mains voltages. How long are you going to play with mains when your meter is busted?
 

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Re: Super Ultra stable Aneng 8008
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2019, 08:55:34 am »
I go well above 24Vdc with my Aneng AN8009 for valve amp benchwork. I don't use it for mains side measurements.  There are a myriad diy applications where it is an excellent general purpose multimeter. 

The comment that it is only useful below 24Vdc is naive.
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Re: Super Ultra stable Aneng 8008
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2019, 09:54:41 am »
I own the Aneng 8008 and I've added better MLCC capacitors and noticed that does seem to improve the stability/settling. I also calibrated it against my 34461A and bought a set of gold-plated leads for it that cost almost as much as the meter.

It's accurate and the display is VERY easy to read.  I use it a lot to track voltages on small 3.3V or 5V embedded projects.
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Re: Super Ultra stable Aneng 8008
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2019, 03:05:53 pm »
I go well above 24Vdc with my Aneng AN8009 for valve amp benchwork. I don't use it for mains side measurements.  There are a myriad diy applications where it is an excellent general purpose multimeter. 

The comment that it is only useful below 24Vdc is naive.


You're deliberately misquoting me, but w/e

If you want to trust your bodily integrity to a sub-par piece of equipment, that's your choice. It isn't mine.

@blueskull, about HRC fuses, if you think you only need those for safely measuring things on your domestic line supply or higher, you should be aware that ELV DC arcing is as dangerous, and is likely to have lower impedance where it's likely to occur.

FYI I have a couple of Chinesium meters, and they are damn useful, a UNI-T UT139C and a Mastech MS2108A, the latter of which has an unparalleled (for the money) 40ADC current clamp range, which is accurate to +/-1 lsd compared with a 1% tolerance shunt.

The UT139 does at least have HRC fuses, but I'd still rather use one of my better quality meters to measure something that has the potential to harm me.

In a little over 40 years of sticking various probes in dubious places, I've only killed 1 meter (UT61), and that was when I dropped some pliers on it and broke the LCD  |O
(though I have blown quite a few fuses)
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Re: Super Ultra stable Aneng 8008
« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2019, 03:48:01 pm »

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Ok
What You can say about UT139C vs UT61E?
 

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Re: Super Ultra stable Aneng 8008
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2019, 04:02:41 pm »
sorry for necroposting
but no new posts about anangs
why?

is it became common gear now or nobodys use it?

It’s not necroposting to reply to a thread that is just 2 weeks old!!! That’s barely a nap!

The unrelated question, however, is a faux pas.

It is just 001 being 001. Have a look at the threads he's started :(

It makes me wish for a sub-threaded interface where I could ignore anything 001 posts, plus all replies to his posts - but still see anything other (most) other people post.
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Re: Super Ultra stable Aneng 8008
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2019, 04:17:46 pm »
It is just 001 being 001. Have a look at the threads he's started :(

Yep.


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Ok
What You can say about UT139C vs UT61E?

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Re: Super Ultra stable Aneng 8008
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2019, 05:05:35 pm »
Ok
What You can say about UT139C vs UT61E?


Well, its model number is more than twice as big, so I'm guessing it's more than twice as good  ^-^
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