Author Topic: TE Boot up times and Boot cycles # (Read 30978 times)

tautech · « **on:** July 11, 2015, 11:33:22 pm »

How fast does your TE boot?
Siglent would like to know and are running a challenge on their Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/events/1459442944373148/

ALL BRANDS AND TYPES of TE are invited.

1 winner/month.
The prize will be either a SIGLENT SDS1102CML 100 MHz Digital Oscilloscope or a SDG1025 Arbitrary Function Generator, your choice.

Let's add Power cycles # as Siglent has asked in a below post:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/te-boot-up-times/msg709868/#msg709868

Attempting to grab this with a screen capture failed, so had to resort to the camera.

Think it might be a fun thread idea too.

But how to measure boot time accurately in a manner that is simple/easy for all?

Well I've just used an Iphone stopwatch, not perfect I know, but indicitive.

My SDS2304 300 MHz DSO. (image from online)

Just under 18 seconds.

How fast is yours? How many power cycles?

nctnico · « **Reply #1 on:** July 12, 2015, 12:20:08 am »

This sounds like an old thread topic...
But what is the use? For some equipment like a logic analyser I don't mind it takes a couple of minutes to boot where on the other hand I want a hand-held DMM to be available immediately.

tautech · « **Reply #2 on:** July 12, 2015, 12:47:38 am »

Quote from: nctnico on July 12, 2015, 12:20:08 am

This sounds like an old thread topic...
But what is the use? For some equipment like a logic analyser I don't mind it takes a couple of minutes to boot where on the other hand I want a hand-held DMM to be available immediately.

Yes, I think you're correct, I vaguely remember a past thread now you've mentioned it.

But if you want to get a chance at a free DSO or AWG you need to be in to win on Siglents Facebook page.

miguelvp · « **Reply #3 on:** July 12, 2015, 03:09:07 am »

Rigol DS2072A 17.61 seconds (tried 3 times .61 was the best, .67 was the worst)

Analogs from cold:
Tek 7613 4.73 seconds
Tek 7603 4.60 seconds

From recently turned off:
Tek 7613 3.54 seconds
Tek 7603 2.08 seconds

~~Edit: But I'm not going to enter, seems on the rules it mentions you must have purchased a siglent product.~~

Edit 2: since that's no longer needed I'll enter, and here is the requested picture after boot:
Rigol DS2072A

Tek 7603:

Tek 7613:

Would love to put a picture of the booting time, I captured the times using my Blackberry and it doesn't have a default screen capture, I guess I could install some software but I rather use my phone for phone things.

On all of them I measure the boot up time until I could use the device, meaning that even the analogs I would wait until the traces line up with the reticule (specially on the 7603 because it turns on fast but the traces converge over time so I put the time when they were usable. None of the scopes I have have a boot counter or power counter cycles that I know of.

Tek 5110 time base is busted but it takes 10 seconds to show a trace from cold but it's not really functional.

Siglent · « **Reply #4 on:** July 13, 2015, 12:54:27 pm »

We welcome all eevblogers to take in this activities, reply on this thread is also valid.

miguelvp · « **Reply #5 on:** July 13, 2015, 02:30:47 pm »

Quote from: Siglent on July 13, 2015, 12:54:27 pm

We welcome all eevblogers to take in this activities, reply on this thread is also valid.

Then consider me entered with the above post

tszaboo · « **Reply #6 on:** July 13, 2015, 02:40:01 pm »

Quote from: Siglent on July 13, 2015, 12:54:27 pm

We welcome all eevblogers to take in this activities, reply on this thread is also valid.

That is an excellent choice, as I imagine lot of engineers dont register on Facebook for reasons beyond the scope of this topic (pun intended).
Would you kindly post the rules?
Keysight MSO-X 3054A
00:38:36

marshallh · « **Reply #7 on:** July 13, 2015, 04:55:43 pm »

Lecroy 9374C 1GHz 4x500Msps

00:10.37 seconds

plesa · « **Reply #8 on:** July 13, 2015, 05:53:54 pm »

Quote from: nctnico on July 12, 2015, 12:20:08 am

This sounds like an old thread topic...
But what is the use? For some equipment like a logic analyser I don't mind it takes a couple of minutes to boot where on the other hand I want a hand-held DMM to be available immediately.

Exactly, from my TE the most annoying boot time is on Fluke 289.

Howardlong · « **Reply #9 on:** July 13, 2015, 08:48:37 pm »

Agilent 54642D 2+16ch 500MHz 2GSa/s (54622D is similar boot time). Here it is in glorious 4K.

Turn on at 1.68s, first trace 6.60s, so just under 5s.

On the other side of the coin, Agilent 54831D 4+16ch 600MHz 4GSa/s..... 2 minutes 08 seconds. Windows, you see. Edit: this is with the HD replaced by an SSD too.

McBryce · « **Reply #10 on:** July 13, 2015, 08:57:10 pm »

Leader LBO 552C : <1s !

McBryce.

Howardlong · « **Reply #11 on:** July 13, 2015, 09:15:20 pm »

Quote from: McBryce on July 13, 2015, 08:57:10 pm

Leader LBO 552C : <1s !

McBryce.

Video or it didn't happen!

Slightly more seriously, it's just so counter intuitive that older kit, using tube/valve technology, boots significantly faster than completely solid state technology.

Siglent · « **Reply #12 on:** July 14, 2015, 02:04:00 am »

Guys, I mean the boot up times, not time. all right, time is also ok.
at least attach a picture.

Monkeh · « **Reply #13 on:** July 14, 2015, 02:05:36 am »

Ahh, lost in translation.

The term you're looking for is power cycles. Should pass that along to your translators, too..

miguelvp · « **Reply #14 on:** July 14, 2015, 02:42:15 am »

Updated my post, as far as I know none of my scopes will show the number of power cycles.

rsjsouza · « **Reply #15 on:** July 14, 2015, 02:43:30 am »

Quote from: Monkeh on July 14, 2015, 02:05:36 am

Ahh, lost in translation.

The term you're looking for is power cycles. Should pass that along to your translators, too..

I would be even clearer and say "the number of times you powered up your test equipment". Perhaps is my non-native English speaker bias, but I was as confused with "power cycles" as with "boot times"...

Fsck · « **Reply #16 on:** July 14, 2015, 03:30:32 am »

tektronix 2465, 8s +/-1

rsjsouza · « **Reply #17 on:** July 14, 2015, 11:47:41 am »

Ok, the times I gathered:

Kenwood CS4025 aprox. 6s
https://youtu.be/Qn4itLE7qSE

Rigol DS1102E aprox. 10s
https://youtu.be/JvWeLebPuvI

Rigol DS4014 aprox 24s
https://youtu.be/WtaI8p3_fbc

dadler · « **Reply #18 on:** July 14, 2015, 03:55:02 pm »

I think Siglent is asking for the boot "count", not boot "times". How many times have you power-cycled your equipment...

miguelvp · « **Reply #19 on:** July 14, 2015, 04:20:25 pm »

Quote from: dadler on July 14, 2015, 03:55:02 pm

I think Siglent is asking for the boot "count", not boot "times". How many times have you power-cycled your equipment...

Yes, they did clarify it but also they allow boot time as well.

Quote from: Siglent on July 14, 2015, 02:04:00 am

Guys, I mean the boot up times, not time. all right, time is also ok.
at least attach a picture.

Not all TE has a boot count anyways.

rsjsouza · « **Reply #20 on:** July 14, 2015, 08:05:56 pm »

Quote from: miguelvp on July 14, 2015, 04:20:25 pm

Quote from: dadler on July 14, 2015, 03:55:02 pm
I think Siglent is asking for the boot "count", not boot "times". How many times have you power-cycled your equipment...

Yes, they did clarify it but also they allow boot time as well.

Quote from: Siglent on July 14, 2015, 02:04:00 am
Guys, I mean the boot up times, not time. all right, time is also ok.
at least attach a picture.

Not all TE has a boot count anyways.

Yes; I could not find this on both Rigols above. Perhaps I am missing something, but I really could not find such count.

dadler · « **Reply #21 on:** July 14, 2015, 08:15:57 pm »

I finally found one of my pieces of equipment that has a true "boot count":

You can tell I've used it a lot, a whole 11 power cycles!

I discovered this screen when I updated the Firmware recently (thanks Franky!)

Monkeh · « **Reply #22 on:** July 14, 2015, 08:22:08 pm »

Well, may as well join in. No power cycle counter on these.

tautech · « **Reply #23 on:** July 14, 2015, 08:23:56 pm »

Quote from: rsjsouza on July 14, 2015, 08:05:56 pm

Quote from: miguelvp on July 14, 2015, 04:20:25 pm
Quote from: dadler on July 14, 2015, 03:55:02 pm
I think Siglent is asking for the boot "count", not boot "times". How many times have you power-cycled your equipment...

Yes, they did clarify it but also they allow boot time as well.

Quote from: Siglent on July 14, 2015, 02:04:00 am
Guys, I mean the boot up times, not time. all right, time is also ok.
at least attach a picture.

Not all TE has a boot count anyways.

Yes; I could not find this on both Rigols above. Perhaps I am missing something, but I really could not find such count.

It will be in a Utilitiy or System menu or sub menu.
Likely also displays HW, FW, SN etc

Mr.B · « **Reply #24 on:** July 14, 2015, 08:37:59 pm »

Quote from: dadler on July 14, 2015, 08:15:57 pm

I finally found one of my pieces of equipment that has a true "boot count":

You can tell I've used it a lot, a whole 11 power cycles!

I discovered this screen when I updated the Firmware recently (thanks Franky!)

I purchased 2 off Franky.
Mine are running v2.4.
Where do I get the updated firmware?

rsjsouza · « **Reply #25 on:** July 15, 2015, 03:37:52 am »

Quote from: tautech on July 14, 2015, 08:23:56 pm

Quote from: rsjsouza on July 14, 2015, 08:05:56 pm
Yes; I could not find this on both Rigols above. Perhaps I am missing something, but I really could not find such count.
It will be in a Utilitiy or System menu or sub menu.
Likely also displays HW, FW, SN etc

Yep, I found the menu that displays all this info, but the number of power cycles is not there (both the 1102E and the 4014)

dadler · « **Reply #26 on:** July 15, 2015, 04:00:10 am »

Quote from: Mr.B on July 14, 2015, 08:37:59 pm

Quote from: dadler on July 14, 2015, 08:15:57 pm
I finally found one of my pieces of equipment that has a true "boot count":

You can tell I've used it a lot, a whole 11 power cycles!

I discovered this screen when I updated the Firmware recently (thanks Franky!)

I purchased 2 off Franky.
Mine are running v2.4.
Where do I get the updated firmware?

Email him and he will send you a link and instructions.

I had to make a pogo-pin adapter on protoboard:

Mr.B · « **Reply #27 on:** July 15, 2015, 04:06:20 am »

Quote from: dadler on July 15, 2015, 04:00:10 am

Email him and he will send you a link and instructions.

Thanks. Have done just that.

tautech · « **Reply #28 on:** July 15, 2015, 04:22:34 am »

Quote from: Monkeh on July 14, 2015, 08:22:08 pm

Well, may as well join in. No power cycle counter on these.

Quote from: rsjsouza on July 15, 2015, 03:37:52 am

Quote from: tautech on July 14, 2015, 08:23:56 pm
Quote from: rsjsouza on July 14, 2015, 08:05:56 pm
Yes; I could not find this on both Rigols above. Perhaps I am missing something, but I really could not find such count.
It will be in a Utilitiy or System menu or sub menu.
Likely also displays HW, FW, SN etc
Yep, I found the menu that displays all this info, but the number of power cycles is not there (both the 1102E and the 4014)

That's very surprising, but I'd wager there is.
Maybe not accessable to the user but probably in a Service menu like the TDS Teks.

So for all the cracking and hacking of Rigols has nobody found this yet.

tautech · « **Reply #29 on:** July 17, 2015, 11:03:05 am »

Shameless bump.

Siglent SHS810
16.5 seconds

Boot cycles 34

miguelvp · « **Reply #30 on:** July 20, 2015, 03:33:37 am »

At the risk of hurting my chances to get this, I'm going to bump this thread because it's pretty awesome what Siglent is doing.

GreyWoolfe · « **Reply #31 on:** July 20, 2015, 12:51:16 pm »

Hacked Hantek DSO1052B boot time is 13.93 sec and 54 cycles.

Howardlong · « **Reply #32 on:** July 20, 2015, 07:36:56 pm »

I don't know how real the first one is bearing in mind the age of the scope.

McBryce · « **Reply #33 on:** July 20, 2015, 09:24:19 pm »

I have a Tektronix 2465 (no A or B). Can I pull up that info on it too? And if so, what buttons do I need to be pressing?

McBryce.

Howardlong · « **Reply #34 on:** July 20, 2015, 10:01:25 pm »

Quote from: McBryce on July 20, 2015, 09:24:19 pm

I have a Tektronix 2465 (no A or B). Can I pull up that info on it too? And if so, what buttons do I need to be pressing?

McBryce.

It's in appendix A of the 2465/67B manual. I'm out and about at the mo, but something along the lines of holding the delta V and delta T buttons and while holding them press trigger Slope.

Then upper and lower trigger Mode selects test or exercise.

Press Upper triggering button to execute, lower to exit.

A/B trigger button to exit.

I may have transcribed that wrongly, almost through a bottle of Cloudy Bay SB. Bad day at the office. :-)

Howardlong · « **Reply #35 on:** July 20, 2015, 11:53:00 pm »

This much maligned scope had been my trusty steed for nearly a decade until I found eevblog. With it, I developed a number of successful products. Difficult to think it's only had 563 genuine power cycles considering its value in terms of the hardware it helped me develop over those years.

But seeing that crusty 320x240 screen just now after its months in hibernation, eugh! I may grimace now, but not half as much as I did when I bit my tongue and paid £1,800 (~$3k) for it new a decade ago.

Howardlong · « **Reply #36 on:** July 31, 2015, 09:43:37 pm »

Recommend y'all enter this competition, I just received notification I won July's draw!

miguelvp · « **Reply #37 on:** July 31, 2015, 09:57:00 pm »

Quote from: Howardlong on July 31, 2015, 09:43:37 pm

Recommend y'all enter this competition, I just received notification I won July's draw!

I should have kept my ~~mouth shut~~ fingers tied up.

Quote from: miguelvp on July 20, 2015, 03:33:37 am

At the risk of hurting my chances to get this, I'm going to bump this thread because it's pretty awesome what Siglent is doing.

Nah, Congrats!

tautech · « **Reply #38 on:** July 31, 2015, 09:59:16 pm »

Quote from: Howardlong on July 31, 2015, 09:43:37 pm

Recommend y'all enter this competition, I just received notification I won July's draw!

Really, wow.

Congrats.

What will Howard pick.....DSO or AWG

GreyWoolfe · « **Reply #39 on:** July 31, 2015, 10:27:11 pm »

I might as well redo this with a pic to make Sigilent happy. Boot time is still 13.93.

nctnico · « **Reply #40 on:** July 31, 2015, 10:33:08 pm »

Quote from: tautech on July 31, 2015, 09:59:16 pm

Quote from: Howardlong on July 31, 2015, 09:43:37 pm
Recommend y'all enter this competition, I just received notification I won July's draw!
Really, wow.
Congrats.

What will Howard pick.....DSO or AWG

I strongly suggest the AWG

cs.dk · « **Reply #41 on:** August 01, 2015, 07:08:58 am »

Rigol DS1054Z (with all options) - ~23 secs.

tautech · « **Reply #42 on:** August 02, 2015, 10:07:23 pm »

Bump.

Howard won the July draw ^^^^^, be in to win for the August draw.

Siglent want to see boot cycles # for you to be eligible.

Come on guys and gals.

Monkeh · « **Reply #43 on:** August 02, 2015, 10:09:01 pm »

Quote from: tautech on August 02, 2015, 10:07:23 pm

Bump.

Howard won the July draw ^^^^^, be in to win for the August draw.

Siglent want to see boot cycles # for you to be eligible.

Come on guys and gals.

Quote from: Siglent on July 14, 2015, 02:04:00 am

Guys, I mean the boot up times, not time. all right, time is also ok.
at least attach a picture.

Seeing as not all equipment has a counter..

tszaboo · « **Reply #44 on:** August 03, 2015, 02:54:58 pm »

Congrats, Howard!
Tek TDS2014, 35 second and 224 cycles. I just put two in it...

tautech · « **Reply #45 on:** August 03, 2015, 10:02:18 pm »

Calling Deathwish, calling Deathwish.
Where you wanting a new AWG?

Post some screenshots and be in for the August draw.

Deathwish · « **Reply #46 on:** August 03, 2015, 10:10:34 pm »

<= 5 seconds. my dmm comes on almost instantaneously, you never specified what type of TE was valid

In fact my digital verniers come on in less than a fraction of a second. still TE....

tautech · « **Reply #47 on:** August 03, 2015, 10:39:52 pm »

Quote from: Deathwish on August 03, 2015, 10:10:34 pm

<= 5 seconds. my dmm comes on almost instantaneously, you never specified what type of TE was valid

In fact my digital verniers come on in less than a fraction of a second. still TE....

C'mon buddy get with the program.....read the OP.

Deathwish · « **Reply #48 on:** August 03, 2015, 10:51:14 pm »

Quote from: tautech on August 03, 2015, 10:39:52 pm

Quote from: Deathwish on August 03, 2015, 10:10:34 pm
<= 5 seconds. my dmm comes on almost instantaneously, you never specified what type of TE was valid

In fact my digital verniers come on in less than a fraction of a second. still TE....
C'mon buddy get with the program.....read the OP.

I did !.

ALL BRANDS AND TYPES of TE are invited

tautech · « **Reply #49 on:** August 03, 2015, 10:59:46 pm »

Quote from: Deathwish on August 03, 2015, 10:51:14 pm

ALL BRANDS AND TYPES of TE are invited

Then why are we waiting?

C'mon guys and gals.......

Deathwish · « **Reply #50 on:** August 03, 2015, 11:05:35 pm »

If i win anything, find the names of the youngest posters under 16 still active on here and send one of them whatever it is. I'm sure one of them would be ecstatic to get something they could get better use of than I.

poot36 · « **Reply #51 on:** August 05, 2015, 04:20:42 am »

Here is my HP 1661C Logic Analyzer from 1996 booting up: http://youtu.be/UbQ_zhDukKE

about 12 seconds!

Sorry about the poor quality it was shot from my Nintendo 3DS.

Isad · « **Reply #52 on:** August 05, 2015, 08:50:46 am »

Hello

So i saw this thread and thought i might give it a
try i really need a function generator and living were i live its hard.

So the OP said evry TE equipment
These are my only 3 TE equipment i have so:

Rigol Ds1074z 31-34sec to boot and show waveform instant

Hameg HM 204 4 second and after it was heated up it would take 1-2 second

I wouldnt really describe this as somthing to enter here but hey
my crappy multimieter does 1-2 seconde.

Sry but i cant seem to acquier the boot times in the Rigol but i think it has done mroe then 200 times
And as for the HM-204 i have no clue i have turned it on 10 times since i got it but it probably has more then
800 times and as for the meter well lets say 300-400 times.

Ps: the hameg probably has more then 2000 but i didnt want to brag.

Howardlong · « **Reply #53 on:** August 05, 2015, 12:14:42 pm »

Folks, you have nothing to lose by entering, your chances of winning are really rather good judging from my experience:

BravoV · « **Reply #54 on:** August 06, 2015, 07:55:33 am »

Tektronix THS710A boot time, about 13 seconds.

Sorry for the overexposed screen as its difficult to compensate against the black body using crappy camera.

http://youtu.be/zOvu_RDwrxk

Boot cycles or powerups count : 128

poot36 · « **Reply #55 on:** August 08, 2015, 04:12:13 am »

Her is a couple of my test equipment boot up times.

Tektronix 465 (~4 seconds to display 1 or 2 seconds after full brightness)

Canadian SG-1 Signal Generator (cold boot vacuum tube you see ~12 seconds)

Canadian SG-1 Signal Generator (warm boot vacuum tube you see ~7 seconds)

Eico 950b capacitor tester (warm boot vacuum tube you see ~3 seconds (magic eye tube not warmed up yet but there is the correct voltage)

Dim bulb tester (40W light bulb less then 0.3 seconds, I turn on power at 1 second in to the video)

60W

75W

I don't know if it counts or not but hey it is used to test and limit the current into a circuit with a fault so I think it should count.

Atwater Kent homemade power supply (90V rail unloaded 170V ~8 seconds due to cap charge (current limited)

Atwater Kent homemade power supply (6V rail unloaded 8V ~2 seconds due to cap charge (NOT current limited!)

Mastercraft 52-0052-2 multimeter (measuring Ni-Mh battery 1.366V ~1.5 to 2 seconds)

All of the tests including and after the dim bulb tester I turn on the equipment after 1 second according to the camera timer (Camera Nintendo 3DS 20FPS 480x240 resolution).

The HP logic analyzer was shot in night mode so it was only 5FPS Sorry

poot36 · « **Reply #56 on:** August 08, 2015, 10:25:53 pm »

Some more of my test equipment on different settings:

Eico 950b capacitor tester on Paper-Mica test (cold boot tubes you see ~60 seconds or so)

https://youtu.be/amF-0ibjeIk

Eico 950b capacitor tester on Paper-Mica test magic eye (warm boot tubes you see ~16 seconds or so)

https://youtu.be/dswHS4TL7Kc

This tester does need its caps replaced and may preform better after that. Both of these tests were done by pressing record and turning on the equipment at the same time.

Jorpy · « **Reply #57 on:** August 09, 2015, 07:32:51 pm »

My Hantek DSO5102P has been booted 63 times. It's about a year old, so I don't use it that often.. But when I use it, I tend to have it on for several hours. The boot-up time is 12.18 s.

jasonh · « **Reply #58 on:** August 14, 2015, 01:41:25 am »

I got this last week from Rob (Tautech).

It took five minutes to pick up the scope and two hours to chat with him, we found we had a lot of common interests

Belgarion · « **Reply #59 on:** August 16, 2015, 09:34:54 am »

My DS1052E takes 10 seconds to boot and has a startup count of 171.

Other devices that I was unable to find a startup counter on:

HP 8591A: takes approximately 8 seconds to boot to full brightness on display.

HP 34401A: 3 seconds.

Rigol DP832: 6 seconds.

Rigol DS1054Z: 24 seconds.

Deckert · « **Reply #60 on:** August 16, 2015, 12:41:03 pm »

Hi!

Atten 1102CML (which is really just a Siglent SDS1102CML in a different box).

Boot up time: 14 seconds
Power on times: 281

--deckert

idpromnut · « **Reply #61 on:** August 16, 2015, 12:54:13 pm »

Found it on my HDG2002B. 33 boot cycles! And a 13.7s boot up time.

EDIT: I shot a video of this as well

https://youtu.be/gL1eQlYJisE

Isad · « **Reply #62 on:** August 16, 2015, 02:31:59 pm »

Quote from: Belgarion on August 16, 2015, 09:34:54 am

My DS1052E takes 10 seconds to boot and has a startup count of 171.

Other devices that I was unable to find a startup counter on:

HP 8591A: takes approximately 8 seconds to boot to full brightness on display.

HP 34401A: 3 seconds.

Rigol DP832: 6 seconds.

Rigol DS1054Z: 24 seconds.

How do you show the power up times on the rigol
i have a ds107z but i cant seem to finde the option.

Howardlong · « **Reply #63 on:** August 16, 2015, 08:02:21 pm »

Got me new toy this week, thanks to Siglent and their July draw, and hooked it up to the 1980B boat anchor for some old school lissajous.

(1980B boots up from warm in <1 second)

Can I enter again?

Hantek DSO1062 50 boots, 23 second boot time

Hantek HDG2002B 68 boots, 14 second boot time

tautech · « **Reply #64 on:** August 16, 2015, 09:15:55 pm »

Quote from: Isad on August 16, 2015, 02:31:59 pm

How do you show the power up times on the rigol
i have a ds107z but i cant seem to finde the option.

AFAIK the 1000Z and 2000 series do not have a boot counter that is available in the User menus.

tautech · « **Reply #65 on:** August 16, 2015, 09:22:15 pm »

Quote from: Howardlong on August 16, 2015, 08:02:21 pm

Got me new toy this week, thanks to Siglent and their July draw......

As it seems you have much TE Howard, I'm sure Siglent would appreciate some comments as to how your new SDG1025 AWG compares against your other equipment.

Maybe some comments in this thread would be appropriate:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/the-sdg1000-and-sdg800-thread/

Howardlong · « **Reply #66 on:** August 16, 2015, 09:39:14 pm »

Quote from: tautech on August 16, 2015, 09:22:15 pm

As it seems you have much TE Howard,

You can never have enough apparently. Until a year or so ago, when I first registered on EEVBlog, I lived under a rock with just one scope, a TDS2024B. I've lost count how many I have now.

Regarding function/AWGs, I have an old 3MHz analogue unit that I've had for a decade or so, the AWG inside the Rigol MSO1074Z-S and the Hantek HDG2002. The Hantek is nearly useless, it's half finished, so previously I've used the Rigol's built in AWG which is far more trustworthy than the Hantek. But being inside a scope, the UI is fiddly to use and setup, so I'm looking to the Siglent to help out there being a dedicated unit.

A bit early to comment on the Siglent, I've not had need to used it in anger yet, I only picked it up from the delivery depot yesterday.

tautech · « **Reply #67 on:** August 16, 2015, 09:56:43 pm »

Quote from: Howardlong on August 16, 2015, 09:39:14 pm

A bit early to comment on the Siglent, I've not had need to used it in anger yet......

Of course it is, it needs to get used to you for a bit first.

nctnico · « **Reply #68 on:** August 17, 2015, 12:15:01 am »

My HP E4421B RF generator takes about 22 seconds to start. Not that many power cycles but it has been on for almost 4 years!

Muttley Snickers · « **Reply #69 on:** August 20, 2015, 05:53:05 am »

Ok I got here finally, pictured below are my Tektronix TDS-1002 boot up times were on average 33.20 seconds and when I got the unit boot cycles were about 67 and I put on another 30 or so and recently whilst in the systems menu I decided to reset it to zero for that new equipment feeling we all enjoy. I never anticipated anyone wanting to know the boot cycles except for maybe the person that I sell it to which is highly unlikely and we are now at 5 boots.

I've also included a picture of my function generators GW GFG-8016Gs and a unit I built whilst doing an electronics course 20 years ago, the GWs came from a local university and are badly sun damaged as you can see but I cant get the knobs off to make and replace the front template, it's a sad sight.

The built unit is can go from 20Hz to 200kHz and for many years thats all I needed for counters and timers and it also has an onboard power supply which I dont use as I have others, most of my work applications revolve around voltage, current and resistance so more often than not multimeters are the go to tool in our case.

Wishing everybody the best of luck and many thanks to Siglent for the opportunity to perhaps own a flashy thing....

Muttley

tautech · « **Reply #70 on:** August 20, 2015, 08:12:58 am »

Quote from: Muttley Snickers on August 20, 2015, 05:53:05 am

Ok I got here finally........and when I got the unit boot cycles were about 67 and I put on another 30 or so and recently whilst in the systems menu I decided to reset it to zero for that new equipment feeling we all enjoy. I never anticipated anyone wanting to know the boot cycles except for maybe the person that I sell it to which is highly unlikely and we are now at 5 boots.

Memo to self:
Don't buy SH TE from Muttley, don't buy SH TE from Muttley, don't buy SH TE from Muttley.

Good luck finding out how to reset the boot counter on a Siglent if you win one.

Muttley Snickers · « **Reply #71 on:** August 20, 2015, 09:10:36 am »

Quote from: tautech on August 20, 2015, 08:12:58 am

Good luck finding out how to reset the boot counter on a Siglent if you win one.

Oh dont you worry, I want that brand new experience again in the future from the same bit of kit.

I dont have a hope in hell of winning anyway, the luckiest I ever got was finding two, yes two flavour satchels in a packet of Aldi two minute noodles and thats about as good as it gets for me anyhow.

Any chance that they could add the SDM-3055 to the draw as an option, I would be happy to make up the difference in price if necessary should god strike me lucky all of a sudden.

tautech · « **Reply #72 on:** August 20, 2015, 09:38:26 am »

Quote from: Muttley Snickers on August 20, 2015, 09:10:36 am

Quote from: tautech on August 20, 2015, 08:12:58 am
Good luck finding out how to reset the boot counter on a Siglent if you win one.

Oh dont you worry, I want that brand new experience again in the future from the same bit of kit.

I dont have a hope in hell of winning anyway, the luckiest I ever got was finding two, yes two flavour satchels in a packet of Aldi two minute noodles and thats about as good as it gets for me anyhow.

Any chance that they could add the SDM-3055 to the draw as an option, I would be happy to make up the difference in price if necessary should god strike me lucky all of a sudden.

I'll put in good word should the Gods smile on you.

tszaboo · « **Reply #73 on:** August 20, 2015, 10:01:41 am »

Quote from: tautech on August 20, 2015, 08:12:58 am

Quote from: Muttley Snickers on August 20, 2015, 05:53:05 am
Ok I got here finally........and when I got the unit boot cycles were about 67 and I put on another 30 or so and recently whilst in the systems menu I decided to reset it to zero for that new equipment feeling we all enjoy. I never anticipated anyone wanting to know the boot cycles except for maybe the person that I sell it to which is highly unlikely and we are now at 5 boots.

Memo to self:
Don't buy SH TE from Muttley, don't buy SH TE from Muttley, don't buy SH TE from Muttley.

Good luck finding out how to reset the boot counter on a Siglent if you win one.

That is like turning back the odometer (KM counter) in a car!

idpromnut · « **Reply #74 on:** August 20, 2015, 11:41:10 am »

Quote from: NANDBlog on August 20, 2015, 10:01:41 am

That is like turning back the odometer (KM counter) in a car!

I would normally say that's like wrecking the smell of a fine aged wine. The only issue with my Hantek is that it is none of fine, aged, OR wine.

clientsoup · « **Reply #75 on:** August 27, 2015, 09:16:33 pm »

I couldn't find the boot/power cycle number on my scope. However, it takes almost 24 seconds for the Rigol DS1054Z to display a trace!

Siglent: hopefully this is an OK entry! I have a $20 function generator right now and it's terrible! I'd love a real one.

cs.dk · « **Reply #76 on:** September 13, 2015, 07:19:45 am »

Who won the August drawing?

CustomEngineerer · « **Reply #77 on:** September 13, 2015, 10:30:57 am »

Rigol DS2072A-S shows traces at 24.31 seconds. Also could not find anywhere it shows the number of times booted.

Agilent U1233A multimeter took about 1 second for most settings.

Can you enter the contest once per month or only once? Either way, very cool idea. I made the mistake of getting the Rigol scope with the builtin function generator and regretted it almost immediately, just not enough to send the scope back and go another 2 weeks without it. Would be awesome to have a standalone AWG.

CustomEngineerer · « **Reply #78 on:** October 04, 2015, 03:34:09 am »

Siglent, who won August and September drawings? The only video I can seem to find is the July (1st) drawing. Did you guys just give up on this?

idpromnut · « **Reply #79 on:** November 16, 2015, 04:54:26 am »

Quote from: CustomEngineerer on October 04, 2015, 03:34:09 am

Siglent, who won August and September drawings? The only video I can seem to find is the July (1st) drawing. Did you guys just give up on this?

Indeed, I am also curious if this draw is still running.

tautech · « **Reply #80 on:** November 16, 2015, 06:15:18 am »

Siglent's previous Boot # activity has ben replaced with this:

Please write an honest review of your SIGLENT product after you purchase it on any sales websites which have places for comments. Send us your screenshot and link for your review to: sales@siglent.com
There will be 1 winner out of every 20 unique customer submissions (Only 1 review per instrument purchase, please).The prize will be either a new SIGLENT SDS1102X 100 MHz Digital Oscilloscope or a SDG2042X Arbitrary Function Generator! Your choice.
SIGLENT will release a video of the drawing process to be published on YouTube.

http://www.siglentamerica.com/qyxwxx.aspx?id=1403&sid=216


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