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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #300 on: September 03, 2017, 06:19:23 pm »
Quick questions:

My scope doesn't display any S/N in the information menu. Is that so because the nvram contents may be corrupted?
I've found a .sn and .key file inside the vxboot... are these supposed to be flashed into the nvram once I clear it?
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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #301 on: September 20, 2017, 01:54:58 pm »
Hi

I've recently acquired a TDS7054 with no hard drive and a flat battery on the PC motherboard.

I have replaced the battery and installed Windows XP on a new hard drive with maximum FAT32 partition size of 32GB and updated all of the drivers using DriverMax.

I have installed the latest Tektronix firmware 2.5.3 for this model and now just get the TekScope Splash screen.

Connecting up a serial terminal to the PPC console port I have setup the standard boot parameters but it stops booting after the following lines. It doesn't seem to get to the part where it loads the boot files.

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Initializing backplane net with anchor at 0x1e80000... done.
Backplane anchor at 0x1e80000... Attaching network interface sm0... done

Could this be an issue with Windows XP or the hard drive formatted using FAT32 ??

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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #302 on: September 20, 2017, 03:20:12 pm »
Do you have vxBoot dir with files on disk C:?
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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #303 on: September 20, 2017, 04:59:36 pm »
Hi

I've recently acquired a TDS7054 with no hard drive and a flat battery on the PC motherboard.

I have replaced the battery and installed Windows XP on a new hard drive with maximum FAT32 partition size of 32GB and updated all of the drivers using DriverMax.

I have installed the latest Tektronix firmware 2.5.3 for this model and now just get the TekScope Splash screen.

cheers

Going from memory here...
I think 2.5.3 is for the 7154 or higher bandwidth scopes. Latest for the 7054/7104 is 2.5.5

I know that 2.5.5 won't work right on the 7154 and higher scopes, but I don't know if the reverse is true.

Also, try re-seating the connectors between the NLX motherboard and the PPC board.

Lastly, check device manager and be sure that all the devices have installed correctly other than the PCMCIA and the ATI graphics chip that don't work in these scopes when running XP.
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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #304 on: September 21, 2017, 01:18:33 am »
Do you have vxBoot dir with files on disk C:?

Yes it's in c:\vxBoot

When specifying the directories in the boot parameters do you use forward or back slashes ??

Also I could not find dio_rst.vsh on the HD so I just used topScript.hw which is what they used here https://forum.tek.com/viewtopic.php?f=568&t=136976&p=279248&hilit=vxBoot#p279248

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boot device : sm
processor number : 0
host name : host
file name : c:/vxBoot/vxWorks.st
inet on ethernet (e) : 192.168.0.1:ffffff00
inet on backplane (b): 192.168.0.2:ffffff00
host inet (h) : 192.168.0.1
gateway inet (g) : 192.168.0.2
user (u) : anonymous
ftp password (pw) : anonymous
flags (f) : 0x1000
target name (tn) : target
startup script (s) : c:/vxBoot/topScript.hw
other (o) : 0
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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #305 on: September 21, 2017, 02:08:57 am »
Hi

I've recently acquired a TDS7054 with no hard drive and a flat battery on the PC motherboard.

I have replaced the battery and installed Windows XP on a new hard drive with maximum FAT32 partition size of 32GB and updated all of the drivers using DriverMax.

I have installed the latest Tektronix firmware 2.5.3 for this model and now just get the TekScope Splash screen.

cheers

Going from memory here...
I think 2.5.3 is for the 7154 or higher bandwidth scopes. Latest for the 7054/7104 is 2.5.5

I know that 2.5.5 won't work right on the 7154 and higher scopes, but I don't know if the reverse is true.

Also, try re-seating the connectors between the NLX motherboard and the PPC board.

Lastly, check device manager and be sure that all the devices have installed correctly other than the PCMCIA and the ATI graphics chip that don't work in these scopes when running XP.

Sorry I did use firmware 2.5.5 for the 7054 ;)

I took a screen shot of the Device Manager. When I checked the PPC battery I did spray the connectors on the riser board and PPC board but I will check the other connector on the PC motherboard.

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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #306 on: September 21, 2017, 04:06:46 am »
What is that PCI Bridge without the driver? If that's PPC board, then it cannot talk to PC PCI side and get it's desired RTOS stuff from vxBoot.  :-BROKE
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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #307 on: September 21, 2017, 05:56:24 am »
What is that PCI Bridge without the driver? If that's PPC board, then it cannot talk to PC PCI side and get it's desired RTOS stuff from vxBoot.  :-BROKE

It uses an Intel BL440ZX motherboard and the only official drivers I could find are here which doesn't appear to include the PCI bridge drivers

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/50298/Intel-Desktop-Board-BL440ZX

I did not use any of these drivers because I let DriverMax do it stuff.

According to the manual the chipset used is:-

Chipset Intel® 82440ZX AGPset (on the 66-Mhz host bus), consisting of:
·  Intel® 82443ZX PCI/AGP controller (PAC)
·  Intel® 82371EB PCI/ISA IDE Xcelerator (PIIX4E)

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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #308 on: September 21, 2017, 09:45:07 am »
What is that PCI Bridge without the driver? If that's PPC board, then it cannot talk to PC PCI side and get it's desired RTOS stuff from vxBoot.  :-BROKE

It uses an Intel BL440ZX motherboard and the only official drivers I could find are here which doesn't appear to include the PCI bridge drivers

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/50298/Intel-Desktop-Board-BL440ZX

I did not use any of these drivers because I let DriverMax do it stuff.

According to the manual the chipset used is:-

Chipset Intel® 82440ZX AGPset (on the 66-Mhz host bus), consisting of:
·  Intel® 82443ZX PCI/AGP controller (PAC)
·  Intel® 82371EB PCI/ISA IDE Xcelerator (PIIX4E)

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Drivermax will never find drivers for the Tektronix specific hardware like the front panel, ACQ controller, and the Asilent/CHIPs video controller. I can help you in a few hours... Stand by.
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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #309 on: September 21, 2017, 11:43:13 am »
Put these in the root folder of the scopes hard drive.
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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #310 on: September 21, 2017, 01:23:05 pm »
Put these in the root folder of the scopes hard drive.

Thanks Jay, I will give it a go tomorrow ;) Also did yours come with a program called CMOS.exe used to program NVRAM on the NLX board ? I'd like to get rid of that annoying network search when the thing boots up. I found some description of it here.

http://41j.com/blog/2014/08/tektronix-tds7054-repair/

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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #311 on: September 21, 2017, 01:29:37 pm »
Also did yours come with a program called CMOS.exe used to program NVRAM on the NLX board ? I'd like to get rid of that annoying network search when the thing boots up. I found some description of it here.

http://41j.com/blog/2014/08/tektronix-tds7054-repair/

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Yes, I have that as well. I may not get a chance to post it till tomorrow.
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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #312 on: September 21, 2017, 03:19:42 pm »
Cmos.exe program
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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #313 on: September 23, 2017, 11:51:20 pm »
Hello,

I got a few time ago a defective TDS7054 and I'm trying to repair it.
Thanks to this forum and especially this thread, I was able to perform several tests and corrective actions. Unfortunately without success.

The problem: Windows 98SE boots normally but the instrument hangs on the TekScope Splash screen.

What I have done :
- Update to firmware V2.5.5 -> no change
- Quick internal visual examination -> no trace of damage
- PPC 7 segments LED indicates normal booting sequence up to the blinking (-)
- Connexion of console port to an old laptop (fitted with COM port) -> boot listings below
- Checking of PPC NVRAM battery (PowerCap) -> dead, 0.29V. Connexion of a fresh CR2032 battery to the PowerCap with external wiring
- Attempt tu restore boot parameters from console (no need, parameters seemed correct, see below)
- PPC booting with the file executing : tcsLoadTableToNVRAM "setup.tcs". This file is named tcsTopScript.vsh in my VxBoot folder -> TekScope still hangs
- Editing of topScript.hw in order to execute "NvramClearDb = 1", then rebooting with topScript.hw restored in initial state -> no change
- Checking of the NLX board CMOS battery -> OK, 3V. Anyway, initialization of the BIOS parameters with the MSDOS command CMOS -r nonet -> no change
- Cleaning of edge connectors NLX board to riser board, and riser board to PPC board -> no change
- Checking of power supply voltages (service manual page 6.56) : all correct well within tolerances except fan voltage (should be 9.8V, measured 13.2V). I suppose fan voltage is not critical and not the source of TekScope anomaly.
- External VGA monitor connected to NLX SVGA port : displays a text saying Windows initialized the display adapter (see below).
- External VGA monitor connected to PPC VGA port : same image as flat panel.

Remarks :
- At the end of the PPC booting sequence, I can hear relays clicking, I suppose on the acquisition board.
- After power off, the NVRAM drains abnormal current from the battery : I measured varying current between 0.5 to 2mA ! However, the NVRAM test during POST does not fail.

After all this I am a little desperate |O. Does someone have an idea ?

Thank you for reading,
Pascal

 

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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #314 on: September 24, 2017, 12:03:24 am »
Replace the nvram - they are famous for dying, replacing the battery is rarely enough.
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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #315 on: September 24, 2017, 12:05:58 am »
Even if the NVRAM test pass during the POST ?
 

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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #316 on: September 24, 2017, 12:22:44 am »
Yes, I had same issue, NVRAMs data bit was stuck low. Replacement fixed that. Maxim still has replacements in this package.
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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #317 on: September 24, 2017, 07:43:11 am »
Ok, thank you TheSteve and TiN, I will try this action and will keep you informed.
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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #318 on: September 24, 2017, 09:36:32 am »
Replace the nvram - they are famous for dying, replacing the battery is rarely enough.

Agree with Steve and TiN. I've seen a number of these that draw too much current.
Also, these are worrying:
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tcsSynchronize: ERROR: DAC synch failed

AND
...
Exception current instruction address: 0x00223e50

It looks like something is crashing. Try re-seating the DIMM on the PPC board. If you have a known good DIMM, try that as well. Also, if you put the PPC DIMM into the NLX motherboard, you can run memtest86+ on it.

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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #319 on: September 24, 2017, 02:26:34 pm »
Put these in the root folder of the scopes hard drive.

I have got a bit further with the driver installs ;) Now still some conflict with the display driver. (see the screen grab below)

But the thing boots into Vxworks and I can hear some of the relays click over but hangs a bit of the way through it. I was wondering what startup script are you using ?

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UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

romPost: MPC106  Walking-one passed.

romPost: MPC106 configuration passed.

romPost: First PCI access  passed.

romPost: PC87560 Walking-one passed.

romPost: PC87560 configuration passed.

romPost: DEC21554 configuration passed.


romPost: PERFORMING ROM CHECKSUM TEST...

romPost: ROM checksum passed.


romPost: PERFORMING DRAM CELL TEST...

romPost: Enabling data cache...
romPost: Data cache enabled.
romPost: Enabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache enabled.

romPost: DRAM Cell test passed.
romPost: Disabling data Cache...
romPost: Data cache disabled.
romPost: Disabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache disabled.

romPost: PERFORMING DRAM MARCH TEST WITH CACHE OFF...
romPost: Writing address to each *address...
romPost: Reading address from each *address...
romPost: DRAM march test passed...

romPost: PERFORMING DRAM MARCH TEST WITH CACHE ON...

romPost: Enabling data cache...
romPost: Data cache enabled.
romPost: Enabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache enabled.
romPost: Writing address to each *address...
romPost: Reading address from each *address...
romPost: DRAM march test passed...

romPost: PERFORMING DRAM WALKING-ONE  TEST...

romPost: DRAM Walking-one test passed.

romPost: PERFORMING NV-MEMORY WALKING-ONE  TEST...

romPost: NV-MEMORY Walking-one test passed.
romPost: Disabling data Cache...
romPost: Data cache disabled.
romPost: Disabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache disabled.
romPost: Enabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache enabled.


romPost: POWER-UP DIAGNOSTIC COMPLETE.

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Copyright 1984-1996  Wind River Systems, Inc.





CPU: Tektronix HPP - PowerPC 740
Version: 5.3.1
BSP version: 1.0.3.0
Creation date: Jun 28 2000, 16:52:12




Press any key to stop auto-boot...
 0
auto-booting...


boot device          : sm
processor number     : 0
host name            : host
file name            : C:/vxBoot/vxWorks.st
inet on ethernet (e) : 192.168.0.2:ffffff00
inet on backplane (b): 192.168.0.2:ffffff00
host inet (h)        : 192.168.0.1
gateway inet (g)     : 192.168.0.2
user (u)             : anonymous
ftp password (pw)    : anonymous
flags (f)            : 0x1000
target name (tn)     : target
startup script (s)   : C:/vxBoot/topScript.hw
other (o)            : 0

Initializing backplane net with anchor at 0x1e80000... done.
Backplane anchor at 0x1e80000... Attaching network interface sm0... done
done.
Attaching network iPC1 dio device driver installed
nterface lo0... done.
Attaching DIO client... done.
Loading C:/vxBoot/vxWorks.st...1773516
Starting at 0x200000...

Initializing backplane net with anchor at 0x16e0000... done.
Backplane anchor at 0x16e0000... Attaching network interface sm0... done
done.
PC1 dio device driver installed
Attaching network interface lo0... done.

Adding 6008 symbols for standalone.


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                               CPU: Tektronix HPP - PowerPC 740.  Processor #0.
                              Memory Size: 0x2000000.  BSP version 1.0.8.1 .
                             WDB: Ready.

tcsTableUnpack: checksum failed on buffer
tcsTableLoadFromNVRAM: tcsTableUnpack failed
KERNEL: THERMAL CONTROL INITIATED
Executing startup script C:/vxBoot/topScript.hw ...
dbFsIoctl: invalid code 3
    ################### topScript starts ###############################




     cd "dbfs:c:/vxBoot"
value = 0 = 0x0


    ld < TekScope.o
value = 23666688 = 0x1692000
    ld < TekScopeSM.o
value = 23666048 = 0x1691d80

    pDbDev = ramDevCreate(0, 512, 1152, 1152, 0)
new symbol "pDbDev" added to symbol table.
pDbDev = 0x1693940: value = 23673184 = 0x1693960 = pDbDev + 0x20
    pDBfs  = dosFsMkfs("/db", pDbDev)
new symbol "pDBfs" added to symbol table.
pDBfs = 0x1691bc0: value = 23665696 = 0x1691c20 = pDBfs + 0x60
    copy ("TekScope.DBF", "/db/TekScope.DBF")
value = 0 = 0x0

    overrideFPdefaults()
value = 0 = 0x0

    measurePPCtimebase
value = 0 = 0x0


    registerMemPartitionSizes ( 0x00000000 )
value = 0 = 0x0

    semInitForQueueCheckLogMsg
value = 21818112 = 0x14ceb00

    initSysWaiter()
value = 0 = 0x0




    raxInit
value = 0 = 0x0
    paiInit
done
value = 17770552 = 0x10f2838 = PaiBaseRegisterTable + 0x948


    verifyAcqBoardID
value = 0 = 0x0






     updateAcqProcFirmware("dbfs:c:/vxBoot/acqProc.hex")
0x16987e0 (tShell): Device failed to verify at address 0x0000.
0x16987e0 (tShell): Burning new code into AT90S4434 processor.
0x16987e0 (tShell): 1342 bytes successfully programmed.
value = 1 = 0x1
     cd "pc:"
value = 0 = 0x0

    raxInitializeDevices
0x16987e0 (tShell): >> Setting PLL to 1.25e+09 Hz.
done
0x16987e0 (tShell): (Re)starting Acq Processor
value = 23692720 = 0x16985b0

    excHookAdd(stopStressForException)
value = 17557980 = 0x10b







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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #320 on: September 24, 2017, 04:37:27 pm »
Put these in the root folder of the scopes hard drive.

I have got a bit further with the driver installs ;) Now still some conflict with the display driver. (see the screen grab below)

But the thing boots into Vxworks and I can hear some of the relays click over but hangs a bit of the way through it. I was wondering what startup script are you using ?



The console port output, maybe you can see where yours veers off:
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UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

romPost: MPC106  Walking-one passed.

romPost: MPC106 configuration passed.

romPost: First PCI access  passed.

romPost: PC87560 Walking-one passed.

romPost: PC87560 configuration passed.

romPost: DEC21554 configuration passed.


romPost: PERFORMING ROM CHECKSUM TEST...

romPost: ROM checksum passed.


romPost: PERFORMING DRAM CELL TEST...

romPost: Enabling data cache...
romPost: Data cache enabled.
romPost: Enabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache enabled.

romPost: DRAM Cell test passed.
romPost: Disabling data Cache...
romPost: Data cache disabled.
romPost: Disabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache disabled.

romPost: PERFORMING DRAM MARCH TEST WITH CACHE OFF...
romPost: Writing address to each *address...
romPost: Reading address from each *address...
romPost: DRAM march test passed...

romPost: PERFORMING DRAM MARCH TEST WITH CACHE ON...

romPost: Enabling data cache...
romPost: Data cache enabled.
romPost: Enabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache enabled.
romPost: Writing address to each *address...
romPost: Reading address from each *address...
romPost: DRAM march test passed...

romPost: PERFORMING DRAM WALKING-ONE  TEST...

romPost: DRAM Walking-one test passed.

romPost: PERFORMING NV-MEMORY WALKING-ONE  TEST...

romPost: NV-MEMORY Walking-one test passed.
romPost: Disabling data Cache...
romPost: Data cache disabled.
romPost: Disabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache disabled.
romPost: Enabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache enabled.


romPost: POWER-UP DIAGNOSTIC COMPLETE.

Hel










                            VxWorks System Boot


Copyright 1984-1996  Wind River Systems, Inc.





CPU: Tektronix HPP - PowerPC 740
Version: 5.3.1
BSP version: 1.0.3.0
Creation date: Jun 28 2000, 16:52:12




Press any key to stop auto-boot...
 1 0
auto-booting...


boot device          : sm
processor number     : 0
file name            : c:/vxboot/vxWorks.st
inet on backplane (b): 192.168.0.1:ffffff00
host inet (h)        : 192.168.0.2
gateway inet (g)     : 192.168.0.1
flags (f)            : 0x1008
target name (tn)     : tds7000
startup script (s)   : c:/vxboot/topScript.hw

Initializing backplane net with anchor at 0x1e80000... done.
Backplane anchor at 0x1e80000... Attaching network interface sm0... done
done.
Attaching network interface lo0... done.
PC1 dio device driver installed
Attaching DIO client... done.
Loading c:/vxboot/vxWorks.st...1773344
Starting at 0x200000...

Host Name: bootHost
User: target
Initializing backplane net with anchor at 0x1de0000... done.
Backplane anchor at 0x1de0000... Attaching network interface sm0... done
done.
PC1 dio device driver installed
Attaching network interface lo0... done.

Adding 6003 symbols for standalone.
 

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 ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]       Development System
 ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
 ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]       VxWorks version 5.3.1
 ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]       KERNEL: WIND version 2.5
 ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]       Copyright Wind River Systems, Inc., 1984-1997

                               CPU: Tektronix HPP - PowerPC 740.  Processor #0.
                              Memory Size: 0x2000000.  BSP version 1.0.3.0.
                             WDB: Ready.

KERNEL: THERMAL CONTROL INITIATED
Executing startup script c:/vxboot/topScript.hw ...
dbFsIoctl: invalid code 3
    ################### topScript starts ###############################

 
 
 
 
     cd "dbfs:c:/vxBoot"
value = 0 = 0x0
   
    ld < TDS7000.o
value = 30997472 = 0x1d8fbe0
    ld < TDS7000sm.o
value = 31006400 = 0x1d91ec0

    pDbDev = ramDevCreate(0, 512, 1024, 1024, 0)
new symbol "pDbDev" added to symbol table.
pDbDev = 0x1d92160: value = 31007104 = 0x1d92180 = pDbDev + 0x20
    pDBfs  = dosFsMkfs("/db", pDbDev)
new symbol "pDBfs" added to symbol table.
pDBfs = 0x1d91d00: value = 31006848 = 0x1d92080 = pDBfs + 0x380
    copy ("TDS7000.DBF", "/db/TDS7000.DBF")
value = 0 = 0x0
   
    overrideFPdefaults()
value = 0 = 0x0

    measurePPCtimebase
value = 0 = 0x0


    registerMemPartitionSizes ( 0x00000000 )
value = 0 = 0x0

    semInitForQueueCheckLogMsg
value = 31005792 = 0x1d91c60

    initSysWaiter()
value = 0 = 0x0

   
   
   
    raxInit
value = 0 = 0x0
    paiInit
done
value = 22856896 = 0x15cc4c0 = PaiBaseRegisterTable + 0x750

   

     updateAcqProcFirmware("dbfs:c:/vxBoot/acqProc.hex")   
0x1d987e0 (tShell): 1268 bytes successfully verified.
Acq processor FLASH contents match file dbfs:c:/vxBoot/acqProc.hex - no programm
ing needed.
value = 0 = 0x0


     cd "pc:"
value = 0 = 0x0
    raxInitializeDevices
done
value = 31032752 = 0x1d985b0
   
    excHookAdd(stopStressForException)
value = 22628428 = 0x159484c = stopStressForException
   
   
    dsyInit
value = 0 = 0x0
    dsyWPApplyNextRegs
value = 22847264 = 0x15c9f20 = DsyRegisterTable + 0xab0

   
   





   
    # remove '#' from next line to set powerup scope state to factory default:
    # NvramClearDb = 1
   
    nvram_initFileSys
0x1d987e0 (tShell): >> Restoring exisiting filesystem in NVRAM...
value = 29213952 = 0x1bdc500
   
    TmgrInit("/db")
0x1d987e0 (tShell): >> Commit hwAccount_Scope_serial string[7] <B010714ªªªªªªªªª
>
0x1d987e0 (tShell): >> Writing new checksum 0x86b3 to nvram....
0x1d987e0 (tShell): >> Commit opt_currOptKey string[64] <PHK4J-MFHKL-2NDQW-L922W
-L2HV4-JK7J>
0x1d987e0 (tShell): >> Writing new checksum 0x86b3 to nvram....
value = 0 = 0x0
    PhxProxyInit
value = 28169120 = 0x1add3a0
    rtlInit
value = 0 = 0x0
    GpibInit
value = 0 = 0x0

    sysExtMemAddToPool memSysPartId,0x02000000,0x06000000
value = 0 = 0x0
   
    hwAccount_init
sysEnetAddrGet: cc:aa:88:ba:da:dd
value = 0 = 0x0
   
    wfmMemInit(1)
value = 48209632 = 0x2df9ee0
   
    vertInstall
value = 0 = 0x0
 
    calConStatus = cc_init(2)
0x1d987e0 (tShell): Reading 280 bytes of service cal data from EEPROM into 0x2df
9b80
0x1d987e0 (tShell): x24165_read succeeded
calConStatus = 0x17ebe1c: value = 0 = 0x0
   

    MathMeasCreateTheMathandMeasurementLibraries
value = 48038592 = 0x2dd02c0
    initAcqMapper
0x1d987e0 (tShell): initAcqMapper: Enter
value = 0 = 0x0
    trigMapInit
value = 0 = 0x0
    dsyMapInit
value = 0 = 0x0
    mathMapperInit
value = 0 = 0x0
    utilMapInit
value = 48035936 = 0x2dcf860
   
    TmgrHookup
value = 0 = 0x0
    PhxProxyHookup
value = 0 = 0x0
    hookupAcqMapper
value = 18799740 = 0x11edc7c = cppNetMgrEndOfTransmission(CppNetMgr*)
    MathMeasMapHookup
value = 31032592 = 0x1d98510
    dsyMapHookup
value = 31032696 = 0x1d98578
    utilMapHookup
value = 31032720 = 0x1d98590
   
    rtlHookup
value = 0 = 0x0
    horizMapHookup
value = 31032696 = 0x1d98578
    fastFrameMapHookup
value = 31032704 = 0x1d98580
    trigMapHookup
value = 31032712 = 0x1d98588
    vertMapHookup
value = 31032680 = 0x1d98568
    spcMapHookup
value = 31032688 = 0x1d98570
    autosetMapHookup
value = 31032744 = 0x1d985a8
    timeSyncMapHookup
value = 31032720 = 0x1d98590
    auxTrigMapHookup
value = 31032720 = 0x1d98590
    dpoMapHookup
value = 31032712 = 0x1d98588
   
   
    TmgrStartup
value = 47412752 = 0x2d37610
    PhxProxyStartup
value = 47362208 = 0x2d2b0a0
    taskDelay(2)
value = 0 = 0x0

    gpibHwInitC
value = 0 = 0x0
    gpibTaskSpawn
value = 47262480 = 0x2d12b10

    gpibIoInit "/dbios/DBIO005","/dbios/DBIO006"   
value = 47221936 = 0x2d08cb0

    enablePowerupDiags = 0
enablePowerupDiags = 0x17c43cc: valu0xe = 2db1c80 (tmgr): 0>> Commit opt_currOpt
Key string[ = 0x640] <PHK4J-MFHKL-2NDQW-L922W-L2HV4-JK7J>

 
    runPowerupD0xiags2db1c80 (tmgr):
>> Writing new checksum 0x86b3 to nvram....
done
dipSwitch = 0x0, enablePowerupDiags = 0, puMode=0
CalDiagPowerUpDiagsEnabled = 0
!! SKIPPING POWERUP DIAGNOSTICS !!
dbFsIoctl: invalid code 1
value = 22847264 = 0x15c9f20 = DsyRegisterTable + 0xab0
    rtlStartup
value = 0 = 0x0
   
    tsComp
value = 0 = 0x0
    ################### topScript ends ###############################

Done executing startup script c:/vxboot/topScript.hw
KERNEL:  RUNNING TIME SLICED AT 10 TICKS PER SLICE!
-> 0x2ca8db0 (CalWatch): Temperature transition out of SPC-supporting range.
0x2ca8db0 (CalWatch): Temperature transition into SPC-supporting range.

Forget the ATI video under XP, you need to install the Asilent video driver which I posted above.
But I don't think the video driver is the problem...

Do you want me to post the two scripts in the image I saved off?
Jay

System error. Strike any user to continue.
 

Offline bricabrac

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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #321 on: September 25, 2017, 12:04:44 am »
Hello Jwalling,

PPC and NLX boards use exactly the same model of 128Mb DRAM.

I first ran Memtest86+ on the NLX DRAM -> no error
Then I swapped DRAMs between NLX and PPC and ran Memtest again -> no error

Then I restarted normally the oscilloscope (with DRAMs still swapped) -> no change, same tcsSynchronize ERROR and exception, and Tekscope freeze as before.
 

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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #322 on: September 25, 2017, 12:19:55 pm »
Hello Jwalling,

PPC and NLX boards use exactly the same model of 128Mb DRAM.

I first ran Memtest86+ on the NLX DRAM -> no error
Then I swapped DRAMs between NLX and PPC and ran Memtest again -> no error

Then I restarted normally the oscilloscope (with DRAMs still swapped) -> no change, same tcsSynchronize ERROR and exception, and Tekscope freeze as before.

Can't think of anything else to try except checking the interconnect boards for bent pins. Still, you have a questionable NVRAM in there; I would consider replacing it before going any further. I remember seeing one that would pass the PPC diagnostics, yet fail the scopes diagnostics after the application loaded.
Jay

System error. Strike any user to continue.
 

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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #323 on: September 25, 2017, 02:25:14 pm »
Put these in the root folder of the scopes hard drive.

I have got a bit further with the driver installs ;) Now still some conflict with the display driver. (see the screen grab below)

But the thing boots into Vxworks and I can hear some of the relays click over but hangs a bit of the way through it. I was wondering what startup script are you using ?



The console port output, maybe you can see where yours veers off:
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UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

romPost: MPC106  Walking-one passed.

romPost: MPC106 configuration passed.

romPost: First PCI access  passed.

romPost: PC87560 Walking-one passed.

romPost: PC87560 configuration passed.

romPost: DEC21554 configuration passed.


romPost: PERFORMING ROM CHECKSUM TEST...

romPost: ROM checksum passed.


romPost: PERFORMING DRAM CELL TEST...

romPost: Enabling data cache...
romPost: Data cache enabled.
romPost: Enabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache enabled.

romPost: DRAM Cell test passed.
romPost: Disabling data Cache...
romPost: Data cache disabled.
romPost: Disabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache disabled.

romPost: PERFORMING DRAM MARCH TEST WITH CACHE OFF...
romPost: Writing address to each *address...
romPost: Reading address from each *address...
romPost: DRAM march test passed...

romPost: PERFORMING DRAM MARCH TEST WITH CACHE ON...

romPost: Enabling data cache...
romPost: Data cache enabled.
romPost: Enabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache enabled.
romPost: Writing address to each *address...
romPost: Reading address from each *address...
romPost: DRAM march test passed...

romPost: PERFORMING DRAM WALKING-ONE  TEST...

romPost: DRAM Walking-one test passed.

romPost: PERFORMING NV-MEMORY WALKING-ONE  TEST...

romPost: NV-MEMORY Walking-one test passed.
romPost: Disabling data Cache...
romPost: Data cache disabled.
romPost: Disabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache disabled.
romPost: Enabling instruction cache...
romPost: Instruction cache enabled.


romPost: POWER-UP DIAGNOSTIC COMPLETE.

Hel










                            VxWorks System Boot


Copyright 1984-1996  Wind River Systems, Inc.





CPU: Tektronix HPP - PowerPC 740
Version: 5.3.1
BSP version: 1.0.3.0
Creation date: Jun 28 2000, 16:52:12




Press any key to stop auto-boot...
 1 0
auto-booting...


boot device          : sm
processor number     : 0
file name            : c:/vxboot/vxWorks.st
inet on backplane (b): 192.168.0.1:ffffff00
host inet (h)        : 192.168.0.2
gateway inet (g)     : 192.168.0.1
flags (f)            : 0x1008
target name (tn)     : tds7000
startup script (s)   : c:/vxboot/topScript.hw

Initializing backplane net with anchor at 0x1e80000... done.
Backplane anchor at 0x1e80000... Attaching network interface sm0... done
done.
Attaching network interface lo0... done.
PC1 dio device driver installed
Attaching DIO client... done.
Loading c:/vxboot/vxWorks.st...1773344
Starting at 0x200000...

Host Name: bootHost
User: target
Initializing backplane net with anchor at 0x1de0000... done.
Backplane anchor at 0x1de0000... Attaching network interface sm0... done
done.
PC1 dio device driver installed
Attaching network interface lo0... done.

Adding 6003 symbols for standalone.
 

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 ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]       Development System
 ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]
 ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]       VxWorks version 5.3.1
 ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]       KERNEL: WIND version 2.5
 ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]       Copyright Wind River Systems, Inc., 1984-1997

                               CPU: Tektronix HPP - PowerPC 740.  Processor #0.
                              Memory Size: 0x2000000.  BSP version 1.0.3.0.
                             WDB: Ready.

KERNEL: THERMAL CONTROL INITIATED
Executing startup script c:/vxboot/topScript.hw ...
dbFsIoctl: invalid code 3
    ################### topScript starts ###############################

 
 
 
 
     cd "dbfs:c:/vxBoot"
value = 0 = 0x0
   
    ld < TDS7000.o
value = 30997472 = 0x1d8fbe0
    ld < TDS7000sm.o
value = 31006400 = 0x1d91ec0

    pDbDev = ramDevCreate(0, 512, 1024, 1024, 0)
new symbol "pDbDev" added to symbol table.
pDbDev = 0x1d92160: value = 31007104 = 0x1d92180 = pDbDev + 0x20
    pDBfs  = dosFsMkfs("/db", pDbDev)
new symbol "pDBfs" added to symbol table.
pDBfs = 0x1d91d00: value = 31006848 = 0x1d92080 = pDBfs + 0x380
    copy ("TDS7000.DBF", "/db/TDS7000.DBF")
value = 0 = 0x0
   
    overrideFPdefaults()
value = 0 = 0x0

    measurePPCtimebase
value = 0 = 0x0


    registerMemPartitionSizes ( 0x00000000 )
value = 0 = 0x0

    semInitForQueueCheckLogMsg
value = 31005792 = 0x1d91c60

    initSysWaiter()
value = 0 = 0x0

   
   
   
    raxInit
value = 0 = 0x0
    paiInit
done
value = 22856896 = 0x15cc4c0 = PaiBaseRegisterTable + 0x750

   

     updateAcqProcFirmware("dbfs:c:/vxBoot/acqProc.hex")   
0x1d987e0 (tShell): 1268 bytes successfully verified.
Acq processor FLASH contents match file dbfs:c:/vxBoot/acqProc.hex - no programm
ing needed.
value = 0 = 0x0


     cd "pc:"
value = 0 = 0x0
    raxInitializeDevices
done
value = 31032752 = 0x1d985b0
   
    excHookAdd(stopStressForException)
value = 22628428 = 0x159484c = stopStressForException
   
   
    dsyInit
value = 0 = 0x0
    dsyWPApplyNextRegs
value = 22847264 = 0x15c9f20 = DsyRegisterTable + 0xab0

   
   





   
    # remove '#' from next line to set powerup scope state to factory default:
    # NvramClearDb = 1
   
    nvram_initFileSys
0x1d987e0 (tShell): >> Restoring exisiting filesystem in NVRAM...
value = 29213952 = 0x1bdc500
   
    TmgrInit("/db")
0x1d987e0 (tShell): >> Commit hwAccount_Scope_serial string[7] <B010714ªªªªªªªªª
>
0x1d987e0 (tShell): >> Writing new checksum 0x86b3 to nvram....
0x1d987e0 (tShell): >> Commit opt_currOptKey string[64] <PHK4J-MFHKL-2NDQW-L922W
-L2HV4-JK7J>
0x1d987e0 (tShell): >> Writing new checksum 0x86b3 to nvram....
value = 0 = 0x0
    PhxProxyInit
value = 28169120 = 0x1add3a0
    rtlInit
value = 0 = 0x0
    GpibInit
value = 0 = 0x0

    sysExtMemAddToPool memSysPartId,0x02000000,0x06000000
value = 0 = 0x0
   
    hwAccount_init
sysEnetAddrGet: cc:aa:88:ba:da:dd
value = 0 = 0x0
   
    wfmMemInit(1)
value = 48209632 = 0x2df9ee0
   
    vertInstall
value = 0 = 0x0
 
    calConStatus = cc_init(2)
0x1d987e0 (tShell): Reading 280 bytes of service cal data from EEPROM into 0x2df
9b80
0x1d987e0 (tShell): x24165_read succeeded
calConStatus = 0x17ebe1c: value = 0 = 0x0
   

    MathMeasCreateTheMathandMeasurementLibraries
value = 48038592 = 0x2dd02c0
    initAcqMapper
0x1d987e0 (tShell): initAcqMapper: Enter
value = 0 = 0x0
    trigMapInit
value = 0 = 0x0
    dsyMapInit
value = 0 = 0x0
    mathMapperInit
value = 0 = 0x0
    utilMapInit
value = 48035936 = 0x2dcf860
   
    TmgrHookup
value = 0 = 0x0
    PhxProxyHookup
value = 0 = 0x0
    hookupAcqMapper
value = 18799740 = 0x11edc7c = cppNetMgrEndOfTransmission(CppNetMgr*)
    MathMeasMapHookup
value = 31032592 = 0x1d98510
    dsyMapHookup
value = 31032696 = 0x1d98578
    utilMapHookup
value = 31032720 = 0x1d98590
   
    rtlHookup
value = 0 = 0x0
    horizMapHookup
value = 31032696 = 0x1d98578
    fastFrameMapHookup
value = 31032704 = 0x1d98580
    trigMapHookup
value = 31032712 = 0x1d98588
    vertMapHookup
value = 31032680 = 0x1d98568
    spcMapHookup
value = 31032688 = 0x1d98570
    autosetMapHookup
value = 31032744 = 0x1d985a8
    timeSyncMapHookup
value = 31032720 = 0x1d98590
    auxTrigMapHookup
value = 31032720 = 0x1d98590
    dpoMapHookup
value = 31032712 = 0x1d98588
   
   
    TmgrStartup
value = 47412752 = 0x2d37610
    PhxProxyStartup
value = 47362208 = 0x2d2b0a0
    taskDelay(2)
value = 0 = 0x0

    gpibHwInitC
value = 0 = 0x0
    gpibTaskSpawn
value = 47262480 = 0x2d12b10

    gpibIoInit "/dbios/DBIO005","/dbios/DBIO006"   
value = 47221936 = 0x2d08cb0

    enablePowerupDiags = 0
enablePowerupDiags = 0x17c43cc: valu0xe = 2db1c80 (tmgr): 0>> Commit opt_currOpt
Key string[ = 0x640] <PHK4J-MFHKL-2NDQW-L922W-L2HV4-JK7J>

 
    runPowerupD0xiags2db1c80 (tmgr):
>> Writing new checksum 0x86b3 to nvram....
done
dipSwitch = 0x0, enablePowerupDiags = 0, puMode=0
CalDiagPowerUpDiagsEnabled = 0
!! SKIPPING POWERUP DIAGNOSTICS !!
dbFsIoctl: invalid code 1
value = 22847264 = 0x15c9f20 = DsyRegisterTable + 0xab0
    rtlStartup
value = 0 = 0x0
   
    tsComp
value = 0 = 0x0
    ################### topScript ends ###############################

Done executing startup script c:/vxboot/topScript.hw
KERNEL:  RUNNING TIME SLICED AT 10 TICKS PER SLICE!
-> 0x2ca8db0 (CalWatch): Temperature transition out of SPC-supporting range.
0x2ca8db0 (CalWatch): Temperature transition into SPC-supporting range.

Forget the ATI video under XP, you need to install the Asilent video driver which I posted above.
But I don't think the video driver is the problem...

Do you want me to post the two scripts in the image I saved off?

Yes please do. I am using active file compare to compare the console outputs.

I did noticed the follwing descrepancies comparing with TiN's console output.

This is from my scope:-

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tcsTableUnpack: checksum failed on buffer
tcsTableLoadFromNVRAM: tcsTableUnpack failed

And this is from TiN's scope:-

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usrNvFsInit: NAME=/nvram BASE=0xfd0ff100 BPB=512 BPT=8 NB=8 BO=0
nvfs: STATUS: Mounting existing NVRAM file system

I do notice that Windows XP has trouble with the Asilant video driver. It says it cannot load the drivers so is just defaulting to the standard VGA driver.

It's possible that this thing cannot work under XP.

I may try another build using Windows 98.

Regards
David
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Re: Tek CSA7404/TDS7000 repair project (Upgraded memory/CPU)
« Reply #324 on: September 25, 2017, 02:44:06 pm »
Yes please do. I am using active file compare to compare the console outputs.

I do notice that Windows XP has trouble with the Asilant video driver. It says it cannot load the drivers so is just defaulting to the standard VGA driver.

It's possible that this thing cannot work under XP.

I may try another build using Windows 98.

Regards
David

It should be able to work under XP. I've done it myself. Let me check again though my images.
Here's the two files.
Jay

System error. Strike any user to continue.
 


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