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| wn1fju:
Look, the guy typed in "mhz" instead of "MHz." We all get it, we all know what he meant. What exactly is the purpose in berating the poor guy? He has a tough enough problem with the complicated 2247A scope ahead of him. I have fixed several hundred pieces of test equipment over the years. I know how to obtain/read manuals, I know how to search through the forums, I know how to use Google. But every once in a while, I've asked a question on the forum in the (usually slim) chance that someone had experienced the exact same failure and had a simple solution. I don't fault powerstroke7.3 for that. On the eevBlog forums, we should be encouraging people, not discouraging them. Perhaps he would be better served on the Tek forum (https://forum.tek.com/viewforum.php?f=568) or on the Tektronix groups.io forum. |
| tggzzz:
--- Quote from: wn1fju on September 04, 2022, 12:00:42 pm ---Look, the guy typed in "mhz" instead of "MHz." We all get it, we all know what he meant. What exactly is the purpose in berating the poor guy? He has a tough enough problem with the complicated 2247A scope ahead of him. --- End quote --- That's a fair observation and question. If you look at the initial posts: * he made a mistake (as we all do), and was gently corrected several times. But he refused to listen to the correction * a suggested cause for his observations was mentioned several times, along with where to find definitive information. He chose not to listen to the suggestion, and not to go and look at the solid informationIt is pleasing to be able to help someone that listens and thinks and follows up suggestions, if you get the implication! |
| wn1fju:
I didn't really get the feeling that he ignored the suggestions. It has only been a couple of days and if it were me, I would still be trying to go through the extensive service manual trying to understand the circuitry before diving in. I'm sure he was turned off by some of the posts and again, if it were me, I probably would never look at this particular thread again. Final thought: All my working career, I was impatient, tempestuous, and "took no prisoners." I'm sure I was a joy to work with! But as I get older (I will turn 70 in a few weeks), I am starting to adopt the old adage, "you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar." Case in point - my neighbor's dogs have tormented me for years with their barking. I have expressed my displeasure to the owner many, many times and have threatened calling the authorities several times. But it continues. About a month ago, I went over there and had a pleasant conversation (no hostility) and you know what? The barking situation has improved 10x. |
| tggzzz:
--- Quote from: wn1fju on September 04, 2022, 02:21:03 pm ---Final thought: All my working career, I was impatient, tempestuous, and "took no prisoners." I'm sure I was a joy to work with! But as I get older (I will turn 70 in a few weeks), I am starting to adopt the old adage, "you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar." --- End quote --- I entirely agree. My general philosophy is turns out to be similar to the best strategy for the iterated Prisoner's Dilemma problem: tit for tat. Start by cooperating, and only change if the other party isn't cooperating. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner's_dilemma#The_iterated_prisoner%27s_dilemma Plus "Trust, but Verify", of course. --- Quote ---Case in point - my neighbor's dogs have tormented me for years with their barking. I have expressed my displeasure to the owner many, many times and have threatened calling the authorities several times. But it continues. About a month ago, I went over there and had a pleasant conversation (no hostility) and you know what? The barking situation has improved 10x. --- End quote --- I've seen similar, with a neighbour that "came on" tough and belligerent. He backed down when he realised that wouldn't frighten me, but asking nicely would help him get the result he wanted. Unfortunately modern Human Resources (i.e. not Personnel) diktats are that problems should go through your manager rather than having a quick chat. I'm not sure of the reason for that, other than to give HR ammunition against employees. |
| WattsThat:
--- Quote from: powerstroke7.3 on September 01, 2022, 07:41:14 am ---I believe that I got this scope this way I had 3 different scopes at 1 point in time and I can't remember which ones were what but I got rid of the other 2 and kept this one and I guess this was the broken 1 It only works in certain positions on The Times per division knob https://youtu.be/rmCz7nXiKzw --- End quote --- Yup, that’s a broken one. Timebase issues, all on that really big bottom board. Shame you didn’t fix it before parting with the other two units. |
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