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A couple of months ago I was lucky enough to play with the new revolutionary 8 channel oscilloscopes in a training class provided by Tektronix! Seeing the excitement on all the engineers faces while using the MSO 5 Series scope reminded me of kids in a candy store :)

Wondering if anyone else has had a chance to see this scope and what they think.

https://www.tek.com/oscilloscope/5-series-mso-mixed-signal-oscilloscope

 

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Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2017, 03:08:25 am »
No dedicated trigger input?  Sacrilege!

Of course I'm kidding, that think looks amazing.

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Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2017, 03:11:08 am »
That looks like poorly conceived spam.
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Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2017, 03:23:12 am »
Looks like you need to go back to astroturfing school.

1/10 poor effort.
 
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Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2017, 03:24:55 am »
It is not clear why Tek would do this, but this may be one of their most creative sales reps, of course.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2017, 03:28:49 am by ataradov »
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Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2017, 03:43:11 am »
It is not clear why Tek would do this, but this may be one of their most creative sales reps, of course.

It's also sexist; there are 6 or 7 men there clearly using the scope and we're looking at the only woman in the room, facing us.
 

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Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2017, 03:46:32 am »
And if this is Tek indeed, have a look at Keysight. They post funny videos, and don't feel the need to hide behind spam accounts.
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Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2017, 03:57:59 am »
It's also sexist; there are 6 or 7 men there clearly using the scope and we're looking at the only woman in the room, facing us.

what a daft criticism.
It shows a woman next to the scope because that was who posted the image.
Just the same as if you had posted it, it would have showed a man.
 

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Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2017, 04:08:31 am »
It shows a woman next to the scope because that was who posted the image.
I have a bridge to sell you.
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Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2017, 04:46:45 am »
A couple of months ago I was lucky enough to play with the new revolutionary 8 channel oscilloscopes in a training class provided by Tektronix! Seeing the excitement on all the engineers faces while using the MSO 5 Series scope reminded me of kids in a candy store :)

Wondering if anyone else has had a chance to see this scope and what they think.

https://www.tek.com/oscilloscope/5-series-mso-mixed-signal-oscilloscope
Welcome to the forum.

Yep we've had a glimpse at the new model some months back in this thread:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/new-2ghz-touchscreen-scope-from-tek-june-6th/
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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2017, 04:49:15 am »
This picture and text was also posted on the LinkedIn account of ------------ (------------ Manager at Tektronix) -
So I guess it is not too smart manager at Tek.

Nothing to see here, it is spam.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2017, 01:04:02 pm by EEVblog »
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Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2017, 05:29:17 am »
I saw this scope at the Electronex show in Melbourne recently and spoke to the Vicom rep for quite a while. It looks even more impressive than in the pictures but I am perplexed why it has not been pushed harder for a new product ;)

The Lecroy stuff was nice as well but Lecroy is generous with options but light on when it comes to acquisition update rates which is probably why it is never specced in their marketing blurb.

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Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2017, 06:20:39 am »
It is not clear why Tek would do this, but this may be one of their most creative sales reps, of course.

They must have borrowed her from the cooking class ;)
 

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Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2017, 06:43:07 am »
This picture and text was also posted on the LinkedIn account of ------------ (--------------- Manager at Tektronix) -
So I guess it is not too smart manager at Tek.

Nothing to see here, it is spam.

Correct, the account is indeed registered under an email account that would appear to belong to this individual, Very poor form from what is supposed to be a large and well respected company ? They could just ask Dave for a proper slot, send him one to review. This is just stupid, almost reminds me of the ebay pictures for cheap and nasty Chinese large grid tie inverters.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2017, 01:04:35 pm by EEVblog »
 

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Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2017, 06:48:53 am »
Hey, sales people gotta sell, no matter the means. I'm assuming those things are beyond expensive, so they don't sell themselves.

I doubt some low end account manager has discretion to send review units.
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Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2017, 06:50:08 am »
It's also sexist; there are 6 or 7 men there clearly using the scope and we're looking at the only woman in the room, facing us.

what a daft criticism.
It shows a woman next to the scope because that was who posted the image.
Just the same as if you had posted it, it would have showed a man.

How did you know she posted it? we do now, or at least we assume that is Paige doing her best impression of an ebay listing for a shitty chinese grid tie inverter. I'm pretty sure the photo is more about there being a female in it than there being a scope.
 

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Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2017, 06:52:59 am »


I doubt some low end account manager has discretion to send review units.

Maybe by account manager they mean the same as farnell does when someone writes to you to try and justify their incompetence and signs themselves off as an "associate"
 

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« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2017, 06:53:26 am »
It is also not clear why account manager would want "to play with the new revolutionary 8 channel oscilloscopes", except for a photo op. Can we ask her to setup some advanced glitch triggering? Just to see how that goes.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2017, 06:57:10 am by ataradov »
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Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2017, 06:55:27 am »
Oh well, at least she dies her hair blonde to make herself look more attractive, I mean you have to have a reason to look at the photo - oh sorry was there a scope in there too ?
 

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Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2017, 07:14:10 am »
Yeah if you want exposure send a demo unit to the EEVblog for a few weeks! :box:

I'm guessing they are a bit reluctant for that due to the review of the previous MDO scope they sent in. Okay fair enough it had some flaws with its UI, but if you only point out the positives and hide the flaws that becomes an advertisement not a review. To be honest a video that points out a few flaws will have a better chance of getting me to buy the product rather than a video that shows no flaws. Every product has at least a tiny flaw somewhere if you look hard enough. Its just a matter of the product having such flaws that don't care about or i can live with. So a video that points out the flaws is very useful in making a decision if this product is the right choice for my needs.

Tektronix show us that you listened to the customers and fixed the flaws of your previous product. That new redesigned UI looks great so far. But nobody will believe you when you say "New improved UI with incredible responsiveness" in a advertisement, while an independent unbiased review saying that with demonstrations of the UI will be enough to convince the biggest of skeptics.

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Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2017, 07:18:31 am »
No apparently we buy stuff because we see a photo of a slim blonde lady with the potential object of our desires next to her.
 

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Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2017, 07:28:51 am »
Looks like you need to go back to astroturfing school.

1/10 poor effort.

lol  :-DD

srsly,the worst thing about the new oscilloscopes from Tek is the ridiculous marketing,from the cringy videos,to datasheet hype lies and now astroturfing?

Its not first 8 channel scope,not even close and the Flex probe thing is inferior,not superior.Lecroy can have 8 channels + 16 digital,Tek only 6 + 16 digital.Also the noise and distortion performance isnt anything special,while its advertised as 12bit 6.25 GS/s,when its running at 6.25 GS/s its only 8bit!  Its 12bit only from 3.15 GS/s samplerate.

Its DC accuracy is two times worse than Lecroy despite both being "12bit",its noise and ENOB performance is deeply inferior to Keysight S and Lecroy HDO series.In the competitive pdf against Keysight S,they are both shown here as equal with "7 enob" but truth is Keysight S is much better.

from datasheets

Tektronix 2Ghz model,hi res mode     RMS noise   at 1Ghz  50 Ohm 1V/div  = 18.4mV
Keysight S  1Ghz model                    RMS noise                 50 Ohm 1V/div =6.8mV

funny thing is that keysight measurement is without Hi res,since its running 20GS/s at real 10bit ADC,it can trow additional 1 bit of Hi Res mode on top of that and still maintain that 1Ghz bandwidth,so its more like 3.4mV apples to apples comparsion.

The 2Ghz Tek at 1Ghz with Hi Res is 7 ENOB
Keysight S at 1Ghz without hi res is 7.8 ENOB..... or 8.8 with 1 bit hi res


Lecroy HDO4000 is 4.9mV at 50 Ohm 1V/div 1Ghz with 8.4 ENOB

Actualy I think its nice scope,but the lies,tryhard hyping and astroturfing is getting on my nerves
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Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2017, 07:31:36 am »
Why do you sad gits always have to make a big deal when you see a woman with some technology and make out like she has got to be some sort of imposter? I know in this case she is astroturfing poorly, but that has nothing to do with her gender. No wonder there are no woman that participate openly in this forum. It’s embarrassing.

(Edit) wasn’t replying to you fonograph.
 
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Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2017, 07:33:36 am »
but that has nothing to do with her gender
In this case it has everything to do with her gender. And the fact that she clearly tried to use it to sell things. There is no other point to her post.

As soon as she comes in and manages to discuss the points fonograph made, the gender will go to the second plan real fast. Right now there is absolutely nothing else to discuss, but her looks.

And forums are perfect equalizers. All you need to do is not disclose your gender, and this bias will be eliminated completely.

Now remove picture from the post. Does it have any value whatsoever after that? Not really.
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Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2017, 08:00:32 am »
Welcome to the forum.   :) :palm:
 


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