Author Topic: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display  (Read 28537 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline EEVblog

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 38544
  • Country: au
    • EEVblog
Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #50 on: October 12, 2017, 12:59:42 pm »
If it is an ex Tektronix employee then they are misrepresenting and will be in deep shit with Tek. You don't use a company email for non company business and you don't speak on behalf of that company without authorization. You can't see her email address but I can.....
You are neither a judge nor a director of Tektronix.
You can not assert things that come out of your power.

I can assure you that the person who set up this account could not have done so without access to the Tektronix email address that moderators can see in the user profile (all accounts are email verified). This person clearly works for Tektronix.
 

Offline oldway

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • !
  • Posts: 2172
Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #51 on: October 12, 2017, 01:01:32 pm »
I am pointing out obvious company policy of any employer. I'd not come on here and talk on behalf of my employer without their consent.
I am pointing out any company policy of any employer. Obvious policy in England, perhaps ... How do you know that it is valid in the USA at Tektronix?

Before saying anything and everything, would not it be smarter to get in touch with Tektronix and ask them what they think about it?
Would not it be more honest and correct to ask them if they officially approve this topic before launching accusations of spam?
There is an essential rule in life: never to make accusations without evidence and means to prove it
 

Offline bd139

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 23093
  • Country: gb
Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #52 on: October 12, 2017, 01:04:49 pm »
Looks like my internal ad blocker went off. This is how this went for me:

1. Hmm spam - lets get a look anyway.
2. Shitty ground strapping,
3. Horrid looking pulse edges
4. Three female USB holes before. No one needs three USB holes in it!
5. Why is the bench so clean? Where's all the crap and burn marks.
6. It's going to get finger prints on it. I still haven't gotten over my wife touching my FD Trinitron about 15 years ago.
7. Oh there's a woman and people are angry about it.

If Picard was beaming it down off the enterprise I might be less objective.

Incidentally we tend to fire people for pulling shit like that.
 

Offline oldway

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • !
  • Posts: 2172
Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #53 on: October 12, 2017, 01:06:31 pm »
If it is an ex Tektronix employee then they are misrepresenting and will be in deep shit with Tek. You don't use a company email for non company business and you don't speak on behalf of that company without authorization. You can't see her email address but I can.....
You are neither a judge nor a director of Tektronix.
You can not assert things that come out of your power.

I can assure you that the person who set up this account could not have done so without access to the Tektronix email address that moderators can see in the user profile (all accounts are email verified). This person clearly works for Tektronix.
Can't you simply ask to Tektronix if that person officially represents Tektronix and if she act with their consent?
 

Offline tmbinc

  • Frequent Contributor
  • **
  • Posts: 253
Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #54 on: October 12, 2017, 01:06:57 pm »
So, lacking the hardware to look at, I took a stab at their firmware. It's pretty interesting. Random findings:

- The scope seems to be called "Elemental". (DPO5xxx was "AnalogKid", for example... :))
- Linux based, x64-based system
- "Tek049" seems to be their main ASIC, doing ADC and filtering, and I'd guess it also contains the demuxes and memory interface. It's connected via PCIe.
- some ini files refer to a (simulated) "MSO54", "MSO56", "MSO58", "MDO 4Ch", "MDO 6Ch", "MDO 8Ch", "MDO 4Ch + 1Rf", "MDO 6Ch + 1Rf", "MDO 8Ch + 1Rf"; who would have guessed, they're planning an MDO version of it...
- Software architecture seems to be QT-based; they use Python + Matlab for prototyping/calibration/testing/development. (There are python wrappers for their "CalSubsystem", which allows to invoke calibration functions
- Devices are "Afe" (Analog Frontend?), "Rfe" (RF Frontend?), "Afg" (signal gen?), "Tek049" (ADCs?), "Tek026" (Trigger IC?), "Mia" (their waveform-display-mux-FPGA), Hfd144, Hfd117
- Software seems to also work under Windows (well, if compiled for windows...); They ship some batch files which clearly can't be executed in the linux environment

Architecture seems to be very plugin-based and scriptable. It could be nice...
 
The following users thanked this post: Someone, edavid

Offline EEVblog

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 38544
  • Country: au
    • EEVblog
Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #55 on: October 12, 2017, 01:08:12 pm »
Although it's pretty trivial to find, out of courtesy I have redacts the persons name and links.
 

Offline EEVblog

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 38544
  • Country: au
    • EEVblog
Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #56 on: October 12, 2017, 01:13:30 pm »
Can't you simply ask to Tektronix if that person officially represents Tektronix and if she act with their consent?

Given her job title and description I don't think there is any need to ask, she would have full permission and authority to reach out to the public on places like this forum.
Ironically, her profile includes a comment saying she is always prepared to be "accountable". Well, I hope she learns from this that what she has done is laughably embarrassing in this industry and to the very target audience she it tasked to engage.

Some advice for her:
1) Don't spam
2) Always declare who you work for and position if you represent the company (otherwise it looks like astroturfing)
3) At least appear to have a clue about the product and talk technical. Not this "excitement on engineers faces" fluff.
4) Search the forum you join first to see if anyone has already talked about the product already, rather than leaving yourself open for embarrassment because you didn't know it's already been discussed and debated extensively.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2017, 01:19:31 pm by EEVblog »
 
The following users thanked this post: fonograph

Offline mikeselectricstuff

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 13961
  • Country: gb
    • Mike's Electric Stuff
Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #57 on: October 12, 2017, 01:21:26 pm »
4. Three female USB holes before. No one needs three USB holes in it!
One to charge your phone, one for USB memory, one for keyboard/mouse...
Quote
5. Why is the bench so clean? Where's all the crap and burn marks.
It's a training course, not real work
Youtube channel:Taking wierd stuff apart. Very apart.
Mike's Electric Stuff: High voltage, vintage electronics etc.
Day Job: Mostly LEDs
 

Offline oldway

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • !
  • Posts: 2172
Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #58 on: October 12, 2017, 01:21:38 pm »
Can't you simply ask to Tektronix if that person officially represents Tektronix and if she act with their consent?

Given her job title and description I don't think there is any need to ask, she would have full permission and authority to reach out to the public on places like this forum.
Ironically, her profile includes a comment saying she is always prepared to be "accountable". Well, I hope she learns from this that what she has done is laughably embarrassing in this industry and to the very target audience she it tasked to engage.

Some advice for her:
1) Don't spam
2) Always declare who you work for and position if you represent the company (otherwise it looks like astroturfing)
3) At least appear to have a clue about the product and talk technical. Not this "excitement on engineers faces" fluff.
4) Search the forum you join first to see if anyone has already talked about the product already, rather than leaving yourself open for embarrassment because you didn't know it's already been discussed and debated extensively.
Dave, if you are absolutely sure that this is a spam, I think it is appropriate to simply remove the Topic.
Otherwise the forum could become a free advertising platform.

I note that other firms have a more constructive approach, such as Keysight, which participates in this forum to help members who have problems with their products.
 

Offline EEVblog

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 38544
  • Country: au
    • EEVblog
Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #59 on: October 12, 2017, 01:23:24 pm »
Would not it be more honest and correct to ask them if they officially approve this topic before launching accusations of spam?
There is an essential rule in life: never to make accusations without evidence and means to prove it

Given that the post is the exact same text as has been posted elsewhere, it's spam.
Not even a small personalisation like  "Hi EEVblog Forum members" or some such.
 

Offline MrW0lf

  • Frequent Contributor
  • **
  • Posts: 922
  • Country: ee
    • lab!fyi
Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #60 on: October 12, 2017, 01:23:38 pm »
4. Three female USB holes before. No one needs three USB holes in it!

Better female, than male  :scared:
And front is just a tease, real deal is on the back...
5 more! All straight female but one with a twist...



Good stuff, suppose sane persons can use mouse and keyboard instead of waving limbs around.

Quote
USB interface
Three USB Host ports on the front of the instrument: two USB 2.0 High Speed ports and one USB 3.0 Super Speed port
Four USB Host ports on the rear of the instruments: two USB 2.0 High Speed ports and two USB 3.0 Super Speed ports
One USB 3.0 Super Speed Device port on the rear of the instrument providing USBTMC support


 

Offline EEVblog

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 38544
  • Country: au
    • EEVblog
Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #61 on: October 12, 2017, 01:25:09 pm »
4. Three female USB holes before. No one needs three USB holes in it!
One to charge your phone, one for USB memory, one for keyboard/mouse...

And an extra two needed to power the power hungry demo board they typically use (one often isn't enough, so they often supply a USB power splitter cable).
 

Offline technogeeky

  • Frequent Contributor
  • **
  • Posts: 555
  • Country: us
  • Older New "New Player" Player Playa'
Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #62 on: October 12, 2017, 01:25:53 pm »
It's also sexist; there are 6 or 7 men there clearly using the scope and we're looking at the only woman in the room, facing us.

what a daft criticism.
It shows a woman next to the scope because that was who posted the image.
Just the same as if you had posted it, it would have showed a man.

It's really not. She may or may not be a very talented engineer. She may or may not have actually used the oscilloscope before taking this photograph. But the reason this image was chosen to headline this aborted attempt at online marketing is simple: she's an attractive woman. It's the same reason that pharmaceutical sales representatives are almost all young, attractive women. Some higher up at the respective company thinks (or knows) that it's effective. Which is fine, that's the world that we live in.

The problem here is:
  • this is too thinly veiled
  • it's way too late
  • most of us will be more aroused by the oscilloscope than the woman

And, of course neither you nor I could have known that apparently the original poster is not the pictured woman, but another person (possibly a woman, possibly older, it seems certainly working for Tektronix).
 

Offline bd139

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 23093
  • Country: gb
Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #63 on: October 12, 2017, 01:26:52 pm »
4. Three female USB holes before. No one needs three USB holes in it!
One to charge your phone, one for USB memory, one for keyboard/mouse...

And an extra two needed to power the power hungry demo board they typically use (one often isn't enough, so they often supply a USB power splitter cable).

That makes sense now :)
 

Offline EEVblog

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 38544
  • Country: au
    • EEVblog
Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #64 on: October 12, 2017, 01:27:16 pm »


This is the first time I've seen the back I think.
I kinda like the complete air slot approach. Does it even have a fan?
 

Offline MrW0lf

  • Frequent Contributor
  • **
  • Posts: 922
  • Country: ee
    • lab!fyi
Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #65 on: October 12, 2017, 01:32:01 pm »
Does it even have a fan?

There is at least 1, that dude with a T-shirt!
 
The following users thanked this post: rs20

Offline technogeeky

  • Frequent Contributor
  • **
  • Posts: 555
  • Country: us
  • Older New "New Player" Player Playa'
Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #66 on: October 12, 2017, 01:33:51 pm »


This is the first time I've seen the back I think.
I kinda like the complete air slot approach. Does it even have a fan?

No kidding, that's two things that are more arousing than the woman in the photo: the oscilloscope itself and those giant heatsinks!




 

Online Fungus

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 17149
  • Country: 00
Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #67 on: October 12, 2017, 01:34:02 pm »
Dave, if you are absolutely sure that this is a spam, I think it is appropriate to simply remove the Topic.
Otherwise the forum could become a free advertising platform.

No, no way... leave it here forever.  :-DD

 

Offline bd139

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 23093
  • Country: gb
Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #68 on: October 12, 2017, 01:34:23 pm »
It looks like a cage for dust.
 

Offline EEVblog

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 38544
  • Country: au
    • EEVblog
Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #69 on: October 12, 2017, 01:34:38 pm »
It's also sexist; there are 6 or 7 men there clearly using the scope and we're looking at the only woman in the room, facing us.

what a daft criticism.
It shows a woman next to the scope because that was who posted the image.
Just the same as if you had posted it, it would have showed a man.

It's really not. She may or may not be a very talented engineer. She may or may not have actually used the oscilloscope before taking this photograph. But the reason this image was chosen to headline this aborted attempt at online marketing is simple: she's an attractive woman.

No, she is the one in the photo, it's a selfie in a training classroom as described, that's all there is too it.
Can we please stop talking about gender.
 

Offline EEVblog

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 38544
  • Country: au
    • EEVblog
Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #70 on: October 12, 2017, 01:37:09 pm »
It looks like a cage for dust.

Well, no one said it didn't have downsides, just like their 8 channel scope that becomes a zero channel scope if you use all the advertised digital channels  >:D
 

Offline technogeeky

  • Frequent Contributor
  • **
  • Posts: 555
  • Country: us
  • Older New "New Player" Player Playa'
Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #71 on: October 12, 2017, 01:37:30 pm »
It's also sexist; there are 6 or 7 men there clearly using the scope and we're looking at the only woman in the room, facing us.

what a daft criticism.
It shows a woman next to the scope because that was who posted the image.
Just the same as if you had posted it, it would have showed a man.

It's really not. She may or may not be a very talented engineer. She may or may not have actually used the oscilloscope before taking this photograph. But the reason this image was chosen to headline this aborted attempt at online marketing is simple: she's an attractive woman.

No, she is the one in the photo, it's a selfie in a training classroom as described, that's all there is too it.
Can we please stop talking about gender.

Oh, right. The other person in the previous page is her boss or something. I see.

And, sure thing boss.
 

Offline dr.diesel

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 2214
  • Country: us
  • Cramming the magic smoke back in...
Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #72 on: October 12, 2017, 01:43:01 pm »
It looks like a cage for dust.

But super easy to blow out, without having to rip apart.

Offline bd139

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 23093
  • Country: gb
Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #73 on: October 12, 2017, 01:48:30 pm »
That's what I thought when I saw the xbox 360 :)
 

Online nctnico

  • Super Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 27810
  • Country: nl
    • NCT Developments
Re: Tektronix New 8 Channel Scope with the Largest Touchscreen Display
« Reply #74 on: October 12, 2017, 03:04:30 pm »
How about that no one is really talking about the 5 series scope any more as predicted after after the big marketing hoopla fell flat?
I wouldn't mind taking the Tektronix 5 series for a test drive if it would somehow fit my budget. Maybe Tektronix comes up with a 4 series as well. For starters I see deep memory AND peak-detect as features the competition doesn't have.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2017, 03:09:30 pm by nctnico »
There are small lies, big lies and then there is what is on the screen of your oscilloscope.
 


Share me

Digg  Facebook  SlashDot  Delicious  Technorati  Twitter  Google  Yahoo
Smf