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| nctnico:
--- Quote from: 0culus on May 10, 2019, 02:06:58 am ---I'm not saying it should be a cheap as the usual Chinese OEMs, but I'd pay 3-5k for a 1 GHz digital scope from Tek/Keysight/whatever that's got a decent set of options included in that price. Otherwise, I'm perfectly happy buying older gear. --- End quote --- A reasonable (relatively bug free) 1GHz scope from the Chinese brands will also set you back $8k to $15k. |
| Brumby:
--- Quote from: ResistorRob on May 09, 2019, 08:46:33 pm ---I already clarified the typo in the very next post after Terra's as a reply to his, which you quoted. If you would have scrolled another inch you would have seen it. Or you seen it, and are just bored so decided to troll me. Either way I can't believe you took time out of your day to point out word missing an "s" :palm: --- End quote --- You obviously have no idea of how I conduct myself here - but please don't roll the "troll" label out so quickly. Here is the truth of the matter: I missed that line of your post. Here is my response to my error: I apologise. You did, indeed, correct your mistake. |
| porker1972:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on May 09, 2019, 11:13:34 pm --- --- Quote from: Brumby on May 09, 2019, 10:54:54 am --- --- Quote from: ResistorRob on May 09, 2019, 02:54:47 am ---.... and designed from the feedback of interviewing 100 scope users. --- End quote --- --- Quote from: TERRA Operative on May 09, 2019, 02:58:22 am ---They only asked 100 people? If that number is accurate, this will be fun to watch. --- End quote --- I think it's hundreds: --- End quote --- Doesn't matter how many, it's how you ask the question and what you do with the results that matters. Just because a majority want some feature doesn't necessarily mean it's a good idea to implement. --- End quote --- ...and also: which customers did they ask? If it's their own customers, then it's not far off a useless exercise: they've gone through an evaluation process to buy that product and will probably buy the same brand again. If it's their competitor's customers, they might find out why the customer didn't buy their product. But even so, feature set might not be the main reason: with so many scopes now offering great performance, it's often a commodity purchase based on the best deal available at the time. Yes, past customer preference such as UI familiarity might play a part but if you're being offered a 4000-class for $5k from vendor #1, you'll have a hard time justifying the $10k-$15k equivalent from anyone else. |
| porker1972:
--- Quote from: Mr Nutts on May 09, 2019, 09:18:19 pm --- --- Quote from: ResistorRob on May 09, 2019, 09:01:36 pm ---One thing I have wanted in a scope is a selectable color palette. It appears Tek was listening when they got feedback for the 4 series. Hopefully this catches on with other scopes... more specifically in a scope I can afford :) --- End quote --- My Lecroy LT 574 has selectable colors for UI elements and waveform traces, and I think the bigger Wavepro 900 has, too. And both scope models are over 15 years old :) I think later Lecroys have selectable colors, too. :) Is that really such a rare feature? :-// --- End quote --- The request for changing the colour of the traces comes from colour-blind engineers - most scopes are set with Red for Ch1 or Ch2 and Green for Ch3 or Ch4, these can't be determined. Yes, LeCroy had it some time ago, but I think it's still only on their higher-end PC-based scopes. |
| Fungus:
--- Quote from: porker1972 on May 10, 2019, 11:48:37 am ---The request for changing the colour of the traces comes from colour-blind engineers - most scopes are set with Red for Ch1 or Ch2 and Green for Ch3 or Ch4 --- End quote --- All the 'scopes I use have Yellow, Cyan, Magenta on the first three channels - for obvious reasons, two RGB primary colors are brighter than one RGB primary color. After that? Not much you can do. No 'scope can have eight easily distinguishable colors, not even for non-colorblind people. |
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