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Offline George_RaceTopic starter

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Re: Tektronix Option 1E
« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2015, 07:19:55 pm »
To completely remove any doubt that you cannot use an external 10 MHz Standard Frequency to increase the accuracy of the Parametric Measurements in the 2465B, I spend several hours going through the pages of "Theory Of Operation" and looking at schematic diagrams of the area around the 10 MHz xtal oscillator.

It was soon apparent that using the Parametric Measurements to measure Frequency or Time, do not depend on the 10 MHz clock signal.  What determines those readings is the information that is stored in the battery backed up NVRAM that is calibrated with the procedure in the CAL 09 - Parametric Measurements procedure.  Once calibrated, that data provides the standards for measurement of signal frequency and time.  It is just that simple!

To prove that to myself, once and for all I did a small experiment!
First I severed the tiny circuit board link between Pin 2 & Pin 3 of U2440A & B of the microprocessor clock circuit.  I then carefully ran two cables out to a small switch that was wired to either reconnect pins 2 & 3, or allow the injection of my 10 MHz standard into Pin 3 to drive the Microprocessor Frequency Divider at 5 MHz.  That 10 MHz signal out of Pin 4 of U2440B also feeds other parts of the scope with it's 10 MHz signal.

Using the Parametric Measuring to measure frequency of my standard 10.000,000 signal showed 9.967 MHz with a Period of 100.3ns.  Flipping the switch to inject the 10 MHz Standard in place of the internal 10 MHz Xtal, gave EXACTLY the same readings!  Proving once and for all that it is not possible to use an external standard to get more accurate readings out of the TEK 2465B.

Picture of area of interest attached.

 

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Re: Tektronix Option 1E
« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2015, 11:59:31 pm »
Great job George!

At one point I was considering trying that!

There is no substitute for critical experiment.

I assume your scope is standard, (without the CTT board Option).
 

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Re: Tektronix Option 1E
« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2015, 01:48:10 am »
Thanks for the comment, appreciated.  No CTT Board Options, just a standard 2465B.

Certainly is an easy instrument to work on, everything is pretty much in the open and can be gotten to. 
Hopefully this conversation will be of help to others, who may have the same idea about an external standard.
 

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Re: Tektronix Option 1E
« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2015, 09:24:57 am »
This thread has been very informative! I just ordered a 2465B CT on eBay which is supposedly functional. Should get it Monday. I plan on picking up a GPS frequency standard in a month or so and wanted to run the scope from that. I also wanted the scope to replace the need for a separate frequency counter. Clearly, the first is not an option. However, the scope provides the frequency counter. The only thing left is to upgrade the accuracy. My scope's serial number is B010xxx, so it is a very early "B" version. My understanding from this thread is that all I need to do is remove R6190 and insert C6190 which is 22nF. I have some questions...

1. What is the voltage requirement for C6190?

2. Is a ceramic capacitor ok?

3. Since this is a very early "B" model, is the removal of R6190 and addition of C6190 still the correct change?

Thanks.
 

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Re: Tektronix Option 1E
« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2015, 06:27:20 pm »
I plan on using the

   C412C223K1R5TA Kemet 0.022uF MLCC, 100V, 10%

which I think will do the trick. Without the service manuals, I can't be sure. If anyone has another suggestion, please share!

 


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