Brymen 257/Greenlee 510A vs Klein MM6000 Photos Added

[nolefan]

I've seen other good meters from Bryman, Greenlee. Ect. Love to have one. However, I ordered another MM 6000 because I really am impressed with it. Especially for the price.

The new model--MM 6000N-- carries a NIST certification. Not sure what that means!

[PeterMadach]

I really liked the specs, the layout, the functions of that Klein, but you simply can't get it for a good (enough) price here in Europe.

Now I'm trying to decide whether I should cough up the money for a Brymen with decent protection, of just settle for a cheapy UNI-T 139C. I'm starting to lean towards the UNI-t, even though I'm a huge Brymen fan, I really don't do any measurement near high power where I would need a good protection (also, the 139 is not as pathetic as other UNI-Ts on that matter).

[nolefan]

Here is a test of true rms . 60 hz,
(2.98vpp/2) ×(.707) = 1.053 vrms. The specs say 2% in AC accuracy. But this is within .2% (Actual ppv was measured with a o-scope.) Resistance was also in a tighter tolerance than specified.

[nolefan]

The Resistance is in tighter tolerance than the specs claim.
Specs says + or - 1% +5 digits

More like .2% accuracy

[nolefan]

Here is a 15uf cap. Plenty accurate.

[Lightages]

That capacitor is rated at ±5%, so it is not any good as a reference. The MM6000 does seem to be a pretty good buy right now for those in the US.

[bitseeker]

The new model--MM 6000N-- carries a NIST certification. Not sure what that means!

That means that the N version is certified to have calibration that is traceable to NIST standards. The non-N version is calibrated relative to the factory's own standards, which may or may not be NIST-certified. Unless you require calibration that is traceable back to NIST standards, it's not a necessary option.

[Satch]

Well I am glad to see this thread getting some information out there concerning the Klein MM6000. While it is likely still a bit early to tell if the attempt by Klein to integrate test measurement instruments into its tool offering portfolio will be a success, I have to admit I like what I have seen so far.

The only thing that will tell us whether these are great meters for their intended purpose(s) is time. As far as I can tell their intended market is the HVAC and electrical trades. So worrying about the Nth degree of accuracy for this model is likely not a big concern though the results posted by Nole are very encouraging indeed.

I think Klein is being very smart about this. They seem to be offering very well made, safe for industry use meters, at a very reasonable price point. I am sure they are not trying to muscle into the 'we're just as good as Fluke and will charge the same' market. People will just default to Fluke. I would. I know it and trust it.

Most of the guys carrying tool belts want their meters to survive. Survive drops and the occasional tool bag getting dropped on it without it losing its mind and dieing. Yes, it needs to be accurate but most of the guys I work with are Fluke diehards because the ruddy things don't die most of the time. If Klein can build a bit of a reputation as making good quality meters that don't fail with a little abuse, they will make some real inroads in the medium price range handhelds. I am very tempted to grab one of these at this current price point.

[nolefan]

Glad to have helped, Satch!

[nolefan]

Another export seller of this meter $95. Just info for those who want it.

[nolefan]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/sp.html?mp=&oid=&s=A3R4I23CRTYH0H&t=shipping

[TheRadioGeek]

Hello all,

I just got one of the Klein mm6000 meters from Amazon and I think it's a very nice meter for the $90 price. I did a youtube review of the meter. It's not a technical review, it's just what I think of the meter and what some of the functions are. So If you are thinking about getting one and want a closer look, check it out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcY1AQANNlk&feature=youtu.be

Thanks.

theradiogeek

[Satch]

RadioGeek, thank you for the video. It is nice to get a look at the meter first hand. I think yours is about the only actual video look on the web. I don't count the Klein company videos because it is a promotional shot and not a hands on 'this is what it looks like' video such as yours. Really,  a nice looking meter. If Klein plays their cards right they may have a big inroad into HVAC/Electrical test measurement.

[nolefan]

Satch--if you haven't done so already, the MM 6000 is definitely worth purchasing.

Amazon reviews, has 32 reviews all 5 stars, no negative reviews. That says something about this meter. $90 is half the regular price. The new MM6000N version is priced over $200. You sound like a Klein Tools man. You also mention the ruggedness of a Fluke. I am convinced this meter would pass the ruggedness test.

[bitseeker]

The MM6000N is a MM6000 with NIST-certified calibration, hence the much higher price. Unless you need that level of assurance of accuracy, get the MM6000.