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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #101975 on: September 16, 2021, 10:54:11 am »
Many moons ago, I had a summer job testing and matching electrolytics at a manufacturer of electronic flash units. This was done at high voltage. Every few days, one of them would blow up, followed by a round of applause from the other people in the room.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #101976 on: September 16, 2021, 12:06:51 pm »
.... followed by a round of applause from the other people in the room.

A truly appreciative audience!

I would have joined in  ;D
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #101977 on: September 16, 2021, 12:07:30 pm »
Oh I’m the sort of bastard who they should be scared of. Recently someone sent me a UPS package scam link by SMS. I contacted the one man shit box colo based in Iceland hosting it and they told me they only respond to local legal jurisdiction letters and to go away.

So they ended up getting “the wrath of having fuck loads of cheap VPS hosting credits” unleashed at them. I burned 13TB of my bandwidth quota before it melted the other end  :popcorn:. 20 nodes running “ab” 500 threads per node on their 1MB JavaScript hairball.
I bet that made up for not being able to execute those bastard caps yesterday, and brought a smile to your face then eh?

Annoyingly there’s no real satisfaction doing this due to the automation.

I do have a large bag of 1uF 25v capacitors here which I am considering stuffing across the mains though  :-DD

Sometimes here (@work) serious stuff gets tested: figure a 400V 3phase supply, capable of delivering 100A or more, a 3ph bridge rectifier and a series/parallel combination of e.g. 820uF / 400V electrolytics. For testing, one of the electrolytics gets shorted. Nice boom happens a few line frequency cycles later, sometimes blowing the enclosure of the tested apparatus apart. As it is company confidential, I can't post videos of such fun, alas.

We are about to start failure mode tests on an 800V L-ion 70kWh Battery. Any boom probably wouldn't be survivable, so there isn't anyone physically present when they are performed, just well protected cameras.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #101978 on: September 16, 2021, 12:17:16 pm »
Talking about soldering iron, anybody know if the new T245 JBC Clone are any good ? Supposed to be 200W. I really doubt it.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002983155657.html



Edit: Was reviewed over here doesn't look bad.



I bet that’s Chinese watts. They are like American gallons  :-DD

Apparently not. The guy in the video tested the power between the base station and the iron and it's really providing 200w peak.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #101979 on: September 16, 2021, 12:18:20 pm »

We are about to start failure mode tests on an 800V L-ion 70kWh Battery. ...


Can I haz one that is left over after the tests ;) ;)
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #101980 on: September 16, 2021, 12:19:01 pm »
Just unboxed a Philips PM2534 system multimeter that came with manuals and PM9101 current clamp that appears to be quite a rarity, less than 50€ posted.
Why "system" multimeter? Because of the GPIB?

I took it apart before turning it on, there was an ugly not quite safe power switch bodge that needed undoing. Dumped the EPROM as I usually will when I open anything new. (New here is CIRCA 1986 going by date codes...)

After finally switching it on I found that I only had 4 digits worth of measurement followed by what must be "NC".

The service manual has a procedure to clear this display that appears after replacing SRAM (or dead battery). The battery is OK, it has been previously replaced.

Am I right in assuming that all adjustments are saved to SRAM and I'm up for going through the full procedure?


It's a system DMM because of it's GPIB controleability - you can use it in automated test systems.
As a plus it has S21 capabilities - S21 was a bus system proprietary to Philips that never became famous...

I see it more like a 5 1/2 digit meter because of the dancing LSB in speed mode 1.
It's not the best meter but quiet versatile (e.g. C° measurement with PT100 probe).
There are some useful probes available from time to time on ebay - you have to build your own probe for 4W Ohms though.  |O

Before you adjust (calibrate) the PM2534 you might want to check if it has a matching adaption to your local mains frequency (chapter 7.5/service manual). The according replacement of a crystal requires recalibration imho.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #101981 on: September 16, 2021, 12:23:56 pm »
Talking about soldering iron, anybody know if the new T245 JBC Clone are any good ? Supposed to be 200W. I really doubt it.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002983155657.html   

Edit: Was reviewed over here doesn't look bad.


That's a tough choice there... My gut reaction is that if I were ready to plunk down that kind of money, I'd rather stalk eBay for another MX-500 piecemeal at a reasonable price. But if I were in need right now... I'd probably seriously consider it, especially knowing it will drive a T12 handle if I think the JBC bits suck.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #101982 on: September 16, 2021, 12:24:12 pm »
How hard can it be to get a proper 3.5mm jack input mic on a PCB?

Yes CANON in my 5D MarkIV failed....

A standard 3.5mm does not stay all the way in, it sporadically pops out.

Bloody hell, why it needs to be so complicated.... even a 3.5mm jack? come onnnnnnn

EDIT: went in pissed mode and got this, fuuuu you CANON...
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #101983 on: September 16, 2021, 12:26:00 pm »
I give up. What is a system source device used for?

It's used to measure the depth of one's pockets.

Ah yes, but if you want to measure the depth of your pockets accurately you need a Josephson Junction voltage source.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #101984 on: September 16, 2021, 12:27:44 pm »
Talking about soldering iron, anybody know if the new T245 JBC Clone are any good ? Supposed to be 200W. I really doubt it.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002983155657.html   

Edit: Was reviewed over here doesn't look bad.


That's a tough choice there... My gut reaction is that if I were ready to plunk down that kind of money, I'd rather stalk eBay for another MX-500 piecemeal at a reasonable price. But if I were in need right now... I'd probably seriously consider it, especially knowing it will drive a T12 handle if I think the JBC bits suck.

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Yeah, not being able to change the temp is a deal breaker for me. I just ordered one of those. Will see if they are any good.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #101985 on: September 16, 2021, 12:37:48 pm »
I thought that's what the Infiniium scopes were for.
No, those are used to quantify your supply of OPM.    :-DD

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #101986 on: September 16, 2021, 12:51:04 pm »
Hard to beat a lightning direct effects high energy test for deliberate electrical Ka-Boom with uncertain outcome.

The ultra high voltage attacnment and isolation tests look impressive but they don't blow the test item apart (and sometimes through the roof, literally) like the high energy tests. 

Typically 3 parts to the applied test current. It starts with 200,000A for 500us with a 50us 10% to 90% rise time (3200A/us). Then 2,000A for 5ms followed by 200 coulombs in 0.25s to 1s at 200A to 800A.
First two are capacitor discharge, last was historically a big bank of commercial vehicle batteries but some people now use big DC power supplies.

That line about blowing things through the roof reminds me of the "Hazardous Procedures Laboratory" in the chemistry department at university, which was literally a wooden prefabricated garden shed constructed on the flat roof of the Chemistry/Biology building. Instead of being bolted together at the various junctions as the manufacturer intended, the bolt holes just had loops of baling wire that was twisted together, to allow *ahem*  'rapid disassembly' while keeping the panels intact. Most people who saw it thought it was the biologists growing something, probably pot knowing the average biology student.

On the latter note, some years back when the Laboratory of the Government Chemist was still in central London on the corner of Waterloo Bridge Road and Stamford Street (it's now on the NPL site in Teddington), if you looked carefully you could see a large glass greenhouse on the roof. That was used to grow pot, officially. Also probably officially secretly but as it's not there now I think I can risk publically mentioning it without getting my door kicked down by government goons. They didn't rebuild the greenhouse when they moved to Teddington, so BD, it isn't worth scaling the NPL perimeter fence in hope of scoring some government grade marijuana.
Anybody got a syringe I can use to squeeze the magic smoke back into this?
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #101987 on: September 16, 2021, 02:01:34 pm »
Remote whole television modulator for BD?

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #101988 on: September 16, 2021, 02:19:17 pm »
That’s actually already on my watch list  :-DD
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #101989 on: September 16, 2021, 03:09:13 pm »
I give up. What is a system source device used for?

It's used to measure the depth of one's pockets.

Ah yes, but if you want to measure the depth of your pockets accurately you need a Josephson Junction voltage source.
Nah, all you need is a SWMBO  :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #101990 on: September 16, 2021, 03:17:39 pm »
Remote whole television modulator for BD?


Interesting to see that part of this is made in Chelmsford by E2V Ltd. There is another seller on the Bay who has a few of these, sold as not functioning correctly but wants £349 each  :palm:
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #101991 on: September 16, 2021, 03:20:57 pm »
That’s actually already on my watch list  :-DD
What about one of these to go with it?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133778128602
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #101992 on: September 16, 2021, 03:43:14 pm »
No, I didn't work on the Type 547 today but I did squander more of the children's inheritance on this. Tek 212. *    I should get it by Wednesday.




* In case you've forgotten I'm retired and can do whatever I want, when I want.  The mood just didn't strike me today to work on it.  :P :P
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #101993 on: September 16, 2021, 03:47:57 pm »
Speaking of getting your door kicked in by guvmint goons, scotttrade12 is surely going to experience that sooner or later.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #101994 on: September 16, 2021, 04:00:31 pm »
Was thinking of buying that radar set for my model rocket. The one with the air start turbofan ...
Wondering if I need a license for that ...
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #101996 on: September 16, 2021, 04:26:04 pm »
Score of the day for me, a Fischer 0.4 K/W heatsink with integrated fan, new, still in Fischer and RS packaging. RS price today, £73.79, mine for £28.20 all in. Bonus: It's really quiet even at full throttle. Should be good for nearly 200W if I mount it where fingers can't get frazzled.

I feel a small DC Electronic load coming on...

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #101997 on: September 16, 2021, 04:28:43 pm »
I give up. What is a system source device used for?

It's used to measure the depth of one's pockets.

Ah yes, but if you want to measure the depth of your pockets accurately you need a Josephson Junction voltage source.
Nah, all you need is a SWMBO  :-DD

Been there, done that; dodged the bullet.  Once was enough.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #101998 on: September 16, 2021, 04:38:12 pm »
No, I didn't work on the Type 547 today but I did squander more of the children's inheritance on this. Tek 212.

Meh, they can sell everything on Ebay if they so desire.  :-//
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #101999 on: September 16, 2021, 04:42:19 pm »
That’s actually already on my watch list  :-DD
Did you notice that it's also radioactive?
Not sure what, probably a T/R cell or possibly a spark gap.
 


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