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Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
mnementh:
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--- Quote from: mnementh on June 01, 2018, 03:58:19 am ---Tautech, I skimmed over Defpom's video on your 1202X-E; I like it overall.
While it does appear quite responsive, I don't see a lot of difference in the usability of the UI vs my 1054Z. I really only notice responsiveness issues on mine when I'm working with multiple signals and decoding; for the usual daily driver stuff, it's pretty much right there with me. For folks who need the extra BW, your 1202X-E is clearly a better choice in this price range; but I think part of what makes it more responsive is it only has to contend with 2 channels and 10K less memory depth. For most of what I need a DSO for, 4 channels is a minimum and I sometimes still wind up dragging out the Salae and my tablet.
So it's nice to have a choice in the bottom bracket, depending on what your primary needs are.
Cheers,
mnem
*Toddles off to ded*
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We thought the 1202X-E was pretty neat when it came out in April last year and as an entry level unit it was a big step forward on what Siglent had produced in this class before. However the new 4ch X-E's blow them out of the water in terms of capability by virtue really only of much more added functionality. Some of this is stuff many might not need but it's there should you do so these new 4ch X-E's are a DSO that you can really grow into.
But back to the 1202X-E for a mo....Dave got sent one of the very first and it was a 1102X-E and Dave being Dave when he had it apart for the compulsory teardown decided it would be good form to eyeball the JTAG at boot where he logged it all for all to see and guess what, it was pretty simple to see it was of a series that was BW limited in the boot code. :)
Siglent took one look at Dave's vid and then only released the top of the range 200 MHz model. :-DD
The vid is #985 if you want to take a look.
So with another 8mths of development they released the 1004X-E models and that's where the 1054Z becomes seriously challenged, two 1GSa/s ADC's with 14M mem for each plus that same fast processor and the additional functionality over the 2ch models. Again, a sharp responsive DSO.
Anyways, enough of the sales pitch, you can hunt out any further info if you're interested.
Nighty night mnem.
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The only problem there is that these scopes aren't exactly in the same price category anymore. I bought my 1054Z for $329 shipped from TEq on sale (actually, they price-matched a loss-leader sale Arrow was having, then hooked me up with a 50-ohm feed-thru terminator to sweeten the deal); street price is $350-379. The SDS1104X-E street price is $479-499 shipped, and the SDS1204X-E is $749-799.
It looks like you do get more for your money with the 1104X, but it's on average $150 more, and the 1204X is twice the price. Just to put things in perspective.
That said... buying a 'scope is like buying gaming computer gear or buying a big-screen TV; in order not to be obsolete by the time you get it home, you should dig deep in your wallet... so deep it makes your gonads ache... and buy as high on the food chain (while still shopping carefully with an eye towards bang:buck ratio) as you can with every penny you can scrape up, beg or borrow. 6 months down the road when you see the newest models coming out you won't regret the extra money spent, and you'll be wishing you had if you don't.
Cheers,
mnem
Money hurts.
bd139:
Siglent have no reliable UK reseller so I'd buy a better Rigol over a Siglent if I wanted to spend more money.
I don't buy that scopes really go obsolete. Better ones come out but that doesn't mean the old ones are less useful than before. The interface between them and the universe is quite stable :)
Specmaster:
--- Quote from: bd139 on June 01, 2018, 03:09:19 pm ---Siglent have no reliable UK reseller so I'd buy a better Rigol over a Siglent if I wanted to spend more money.
I don't buy that scopes really go obsolete. Better ones come out but that doesn't mean the old ones are less useful than before. The interface between them and the universe is quite stable :)
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Yep, that interface would be the users and we have been stable for centuries 🤣
From mobile device so predictive text might have struck again [emoji83]
GerryBags:
--- Quote from: Specmaster on June 01, 2018, 03:31:09 pm ---Yep, that interface would be the users and we have been stable for centuries 🤣
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Well, stable-ish.
mnementh:
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--- Quote from: Specmaster on June 01, 2018, 01:07:52 pm ---... switched off the Wysiwyg option, it sucks....
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--- Quote from: bd139 on June 01, 2018, 01:20:47 pm ---I couldn't agree more. LaTeX FTW.
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Now there's a statement that is true in a much wider context :)
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Mmmmm.... LaTeX...
--- Quote from: Specmaster on June 01, 2018, 11:59:03 am ---
Quote from: bd139 on Today at 12:13:59 pm
Citizen / Accurist are a good deal. They're functional over everything.
iPhone stopped being a status symbol years ago. Can get them on Tesco mobile. Mine's on giffnaff :) Literally crawling with them. The only status now is not having one with a broken screen :)
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Yep, I've tried Lorus, Casio, Rotary (I have my fathers old watch which is a Rotary and very precious to me) but none of them hold a candle to Accurist/Citizen watches.
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When it comes CRO/DSO I want both, if I could get an affordable DSO tomorrow, I would, just like my watches, the most accurate are the Atomic Controlled ones, but I also have 5 others that aren't radio controlled but still accurate to a few seconds a month. I view them in the same way that I view a CRO and the Radio Controlled ones like a DSO :-+
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Not so sure about Apple Phones and similar top end ones from other makers, there what these moped gangs start of with snatching from people who they have spied flashing them in public probably before graduating on to lightening raids in Jewelers, bastards.
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I used to be a diehard Timex ironMan wearer; until they got bought out by the Chinese factory that used to make them and it all turned into plastic body/plastic lens/plastic band crap. Since then I've worn the 00s vintage Fossil SS Diver watches and Arkitekts pretty much exclusively, when I wear a watch. I have a very good, inexpensive pocketwatch that keeps better time, and does all that "connected" crap too; mine is Android simply because anything fApple with a usefully-sized screen is still obscenely overpriced.
mnem
I tried single-shot on my club sandwich; The results, while quite spectacular, were less than optimal.
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