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Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
Mr. Scram:
--- Quote from: bd139 on June 03, 2018, 09:18:16 am ---That’s a perfect quote that sums it up well.
My mantra is about promoting managing complexity along with features and requirements. I am saying I told you so a lot. This is slowly turning into credibility as things go wrong. That’s what software companies look like inside. A giant rug which had dead bodies piled up under it.
On the outside it’s a happy shiny facade of perfection because it’s cheap to pretend.
Anyone want to give me an EE job? :D
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Sure, I have some stuff that needs its batteries replaced.
bd139:
If you’re paying I’m there ;)
Specmaster:
--- Quote from: tautech on June 03, 2018, 07:49:52 am ---
--- Quote from: Specmaster on June 03, 2018, 05:56:14 am ---Problem with the extra features / functionality being built-in is that they aren't as good as a dedicated piece of hardware for a given function.
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True and everyone has differing expectations.
So a buyer might think:
Will it work well enough to suit my needs and I then not need to buy another piece of equipment ?
--- Quote ---Also you may require to be able to use both or more functions at the same time which I don't believe is possible with a DSO?
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Off the cuff there's 4 examples that come to mind.
DSO's with MSO (LA) capability.
Split screen FFT mode.
Decode.
Inbuilt AWG.
All were once the domain of dedicated instruments but are now available in several basic entry level DSO's.
We'll see more of it I'm sure until a manufacturer spots a marketing opportunity to offer a good bare bones basic DSO and then the clock starts at zero again. :horse:
--- Quote ---Also if the DSO fails, then you are also bereft of the other pieces of gear that it attempts to simulate, that in my book is just a no no. No audio phile would accept a all in one unit for the same reasons.
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::)
We used to say that about a car with electronic ignition, then EFI, ABS, Cruise control, Climate control, Auto locking, ..............
--- Quote ---I believe it has become nothing more than a cynical means of justifying the higher starting price as you mentioned, factoring it in, the cost is not bad, looks like an attempt to minimise the higher then it needs to be price.
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Of course...................or requests from customers to add functionality.
C'mon, how can this be a bad thing for anyone getting into the industry ?
--- Quote ---Fact is, it suffers from the constraints I outlined above and also of course many people will already have the various items already in their home labs.
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Sure but many don't, they really don't. I've acquired a bit of gear over the years but for those decades younger than us they haven't had to opportunities to gather what we have. Please understand and accept that.
--- Quote ---I doubt it costs that much to add in these mediocre extra functions anyway as with digital systems, most of the hardware is already there and is more software driven to make the changes?
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--- Quote from: Mr. Scram on June 03, 2018, 06:11:55 am ---Developing software features costs time, effort and money too. I know the hardware crowd tends to underestimate that, but if you just look at the horrible software that's consistently supplied with even very expensive logic analysers you know that proper software development isn't trivial.
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You nailed that one.
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The simple answer to the duplicating many good items with inferior built in ones is to offer 2 products, one is the basic item, the other with loaded items. But we all know that would never happen because the bean counters risk loosing revenue so the fully loaded becomes the sole offering in the relentless pursuit of profit to keep shareholders happy.
From mobile device so predictive text might have struck again [emoji83]
bd139:
Well they price differentiate the items based on software options now so you have one product line and pay for extras. Or crack the fucker like a rigol ;)
med6753:
I have to stay off my local Craigslist. Saw this today.
I lust after a 547. And it's got a 1A1 plug-in.
The Fairchild counter has nixies! 8)
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