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Vince:

--- Quote from: Robert763 on June 28, 2022, 02:51:11 pm ---
--- Quote from: Vince on June 28, 2022, 11:07:18 am ---Yep no Megazoom if just I guess because with 2GS/s sampling, 10 times more than a Megazoom, it would have required too much memory for the day, and more importantly I guess so much ASIC performance that it would have been either cost prohibitive even for high end HP stuff customers, if even at all technically achievable at the time.

That's where I will concede the modern scopes a clear advantage. Technology/performance has improved to the point where you can have both high BW / sampling rate, and deep memory at the same time, and you can set the trade-off between the two on the fly as you require, to suit the job at hand as best as possible. High time resolution versus high refresh rate to find rare events.

That's the main selling point to me, if I were to ever be in a position to be able to spend money on a modern scope.
That, then next selling point to me is the large wide aspect ratio screens that give you a lot more real estate to see your signals.

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It's just a shame that most modern 'scopes have crappy, user interfaces and poor response to control inputs.

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Yes, that's the main thing that puts me off. Look and feel of the H/W par tof the UI, i.e the frontpanel and knobs etc, but also the S/W side of the UI : the way stuff is presented on the screen, and the colours used. It does not looks as clean sharp and tidy to me as the older scopes with their "ASCII" / text based user interfaces, and  a more thoughtful use of colours.

I particularly hate teh blue colours that seems to be adored by many scopes manufacturers for their menu buttons and what not. Even worse sometiems even a gradient of blue, not a solid blue. IT irritates me as umch as freaking blue LEDs in every consumer products under the sun.

At least in my old TDS scope the colours are heavily customizable if you feel the need to change them, but somehow I fear this is not possible on modern scopes... hopefully I man wrong.
If I could get  rid all the blue, get rid of gradients, and just have a black background and white menus with a fixed width font, and bright yellow for the signal traces, that would be a good start.

bd139:
To be fair the Siglent I have is pretty responsive and well designed. It’s why I own it rather than DS1054Z…
AVGresponding:

--- Quote from: bd139 on June 28, 2022, 09:36:19 am ---If anyone wants this go go go go. 500Mhz scope plus Agilent PSU £180. I can’t take it due to delivery constraints.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165551587078

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That sold before I even saw your post earlier, otherwise I'd have jumped on it myself!
BU508A:

--- Quote from: Robert763 on June 28, 2022, 02:51:11 pm ---It's just a shame that most modern 'scopes have crappy, user interfaces and poor response to control inputs.

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My R&S RTB2004 has both: good and responsive UI. I cannot complain.
Vince:

--- Quote from: BU508A on June 28, 2022, 04:53:30 pm ---
--- Quote from: Robert763 on June 28, 2022, 02:51:11 pm ---It's just a shame that most modern 'scopes have crappy, user interfaces and poor response to control inputs.

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My R&S RTB2004 has both: good and responsive UI. I cannot complain.

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The only reason I like modern R&S scopes so much over the competition and would fancy one, is the overall UI ( H/W and S/W) that I find less ugly, almost nice actually, well to my liking at any rate, to each their own..
I have no idea about the technical merits of their scopes, I don't expect them to be significantly better or worse than their Keysight or Tek counterparts... scopes are scopes (within a given market segment/quality), to me only the user interface makes the difference to make me like one more than the others.

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