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Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
25 CPS:
--- Quote from: Vince on June 28, 2022, 04:31:58 pm ---and a more thoughtful use of colours.
I particularly hate teh blue colours that seems to be adored by many scopes manufacturers for their menu buttons and what not. Even worse sometiems even a gradient of blue, not a solid blue. IT irritates me as umch as freaking blue LEDs in every consumer products under the sun.
At least in my old TDS scope the colours are heavily customizable if you feel the need to change them, but somehow I fear this is not possible on modern scopes... hopefully I man wrong.
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This has been turning into a complaint for me too but for different reasons. Consider the three portable scopes I use regularly all have full colour displays:
Agilent/Keysight U1602B
Agilent/Keysight U1620A
Fluke 190-204 II
The two channels on the U1602B are hardcoded red and blue. If there is anywhere to change it in the system menus, I haven't noticed it but I haven't looked too hard since red and blue work fine for me and everyone else that's had to use it.
Inexplicably, Agilent ditched that and went to some kind of combination of bright green/orange/yellow colours for the two channels on the U1620B. There's a slight difference in brightness in the printing on the top panel with the connectors but it's almost indistinguishable on the screen so every time I use this machine, I check around the settings to see if I can change the colours to something that works far better to identify the two channels at a glance like the red and blue on the U1602B but if there is a way to do it, I haven't found it yet. Granted, I avoid this scope for this reason so I don't use it unless the others aren't available.
The Fluke breaks out the channels into red, blue, green, grey which is fine for the most part. The tricky combination there for me is the green and grey being very close. That combination can be avoided easily by only using one of those two channels for the most part except for when I end up in a situation where I need all four channels at the same time and then it can't be avoided. I looked around quite a bit and the Fluke doesn't appear to allow you to change trace colours either. In an ideal world, I'd take the green and turn the brightness up on it so it looks more like a yellow than a grey to break that conflict.
I wish Fluke and Keysight would do a firmware update that adds some system menu settings to make the channel trace colours user modifiable so that they can be arbitrarily changed to fit what the person using the scope needs them to be to make it useful to them. Instead, it's a throwback to using monochrome CRT scopes and turning channels on and off or grabbing the horizontal position controls and seeing which trace changes to identify which one belongs to which input channel. Unfortunately, doing that to identify traces doesn't work on the SAA-2-N nano VNA which makes it a royal pain at times.
AVGresponding:
--- Quote from: bd139 on June 28, 2022, 05:21:36 pm ---
--- Quote from: AVGresponding on June 28, 2022, 04:49:16 pm ---
--- Quote from: bd139 on June 28, 2022, 09:36:19 am ---If anyone wants this go go go go. 500Mhz scope plus Agilent PSU £180. I can’t take it due to delivery constraints.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165551587078
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That sold before I even saw your post earlier, otherwise I'd have jumped on it myself!
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Yep was considering it myself but I’m all over the place for the next two weeks. I’d have kept the power supply and sold the scope though :-DD
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And vice-versa for me! ^-^
Vince:
--- Quote from: 25 CPS on June 28, 2022, 05:46:11 pm ---This has been turning into a complaint for me too but for different reasons. Consider the three portable scopes I use regularly all have full colour displays:
Agilent/Keysight U1602B
Agilent/Keysight U1620A
Fluke 190-204 II
[..]
The Fluke breaks out the channels into red, blue, green, grey which is fine for the most part. The tricky combination there for me is the green and grey being very close. That combination can be avoided easily by only using one of those two channels for the most part except for when I end up in a situation where I need all four channels at the same time and then it can't be avoided. I looked around quite a bit and the Fluke doesn't appear to allow you to change trace colours either. In an ideal world, I'd take the green and turn the brightness up on it so it looks more like a yellow than a grey to break that conflict.
I wish Fluke and Keysight would do a firmware update that adds some system menu settings to make the channel trace colours user modifiable so that they can be arbitrarily changed to fit what the person using the scope needs them to be to make it useful to them. Instead, it's a throwback to using monochrome CRT scopes and turning channels on and off or grabbing the horizontal position controls and seeing which trace changes to identify which one belongs to which input channel. Unfortunately, doing that to identify traces doesn't work on the SAA-2-N nano VNA which makes it a royal pain at times.
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If just for colour blind people, it's beyond me why every colour scope doesn't let you specify custom colours for the various elements of the user interface, really :-//
bd139:
Because they match the port colours. If you change them the whole system makes no sense.
Vince:
It should be the user's choice not the manufacturers....
Adding the possibility for the people who want or require it for XYZ reason doesn't take anything away from other users. It's just an option, an option.....
Hell, just put RGB LEDs next to the ports...
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