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| Kosmic:
--- Quote from: Vince on June 28, 2022, 06:16:38 pm --- --- Quote from: 25 CPS on June 28, 2022, 05:46:11 pm ---This has been turning into a complaint for me too but for different reasons. Consider the three portable scopes I use regularly all have full colour displays: Agilent/Keysight U1602B Agilent/Keysight U1620A Fluke 190-204 II [..] The Fluke breaks out the channels into red, blue, green, grey which is fine for the most part. The tricky combination there for me is the green and grey being very close. That combination can be avoided easily by only using one of those two channels for the most part except for when I end up in a situation where I need all four channels at the same time and then it can't be avoided. I looked around quite a bit and the Fluke doesn't appear to allow you to change trace colours either. In an ideal world, I'd take the green and turn the brightness up on it so it looks more like a yellow than a grey to break that conflict. I wish Fluke and Keysight would do a firmware update that adds some system menu settings to make the channel trace colours user modifiable so that they can be arbitrarily changed to fit what the person using the scope needs them to be to make it useful to them. Instead, it's a throwback to using monochrome CRT scopes and turning channels on and off or grabbing the horizontal position controls and seeing which trace changes to identify which one belongs to which input channel. Unfortunately, doing that to identify traces doesn't work on the SAA-2-N nano VNA which makes it a royal pain at times. --- End quote --- If just for colour blind people, it's beyond me why every colour scope doesn't let you specify custom colours for the various elements of the user interface, really :-// --- End quote --- Lecroy scopes let you change the color scheme. Not sure for the later version with XStream, but the older OS on VXworks let you customize everything. |
| bd139:
--- Quote from: ch_scr on June 28, 2022, 07:00:57 pm --- --- Quote from: med6753 on June 28, 2022, 06:58:13 pm ---All this fussing. ::) I have green, and only green, and I like it just like that. If I forget which trace is which I have the "Identify" button. ;D --- End quote --- Just wiggle the vertical adjust?! --- End quote --- That is the correct solution. Or know what the fuck you’re measuring and where you put it. |
| med6753:
--- Quote from: bd139 on June 28, 2022, 07:04:02 pm --- --- Quote from: ch_scr on June 28, 2022, 07:00:57 pm --- --- Quote from: med6753 on June 28, 2022, 06:58:13 pm ---All this fussing. ::) I have green, and only green, and I like it just like that. If I forget which trace is which I have the "Identify" button. ;D --- End quote --- Just wiggle the vertical adjust?! --- End quote --- That is the correct solution. Or know what the fuck you’re measuring and where you put it. --- End quote --- In the case of 400 series and 500 series which don't have an "identify" button that works a treat too. :-+ |
| Vince:
--- Quote from: bd139 on June 28, 2022, 07:02:43 pm --- --- Quote from: Vince on June 28, 2022, 06:42:19 pm ---It should be the user's choice not the manufacturers.... Adding the possibility for the people who want or require it for XYZ reason doesn't take anything away from other users. It's just an option, an option..... Hell, just put RGB LEDs next to the ports... --- End quote --- Doesn’t work like that. You can buy it not. If you buy it you have to drink whatever excrement the manufacturer served. As for RGB LEDs that’s fine until you have the probe tips ringed and need an LED at that end too… --- End quote --- Probes already come with coloured rings to let you use the colour you want... they just need to supply you with more rings that's all. If they don't, I am sure some Chinese Ebay seller will be more than pleased to sell you a thousand colour rings of every imaginable colour under the sun, for a few cents delivered. Or the probes just need to come with rings that tell you the channel number as well. Or as you said just put an RGB LED on the probe as well. Probes already have an extra pin to identify them, they can just use that pin to also power and configure the LED as well. Simpler is just just let the user teak the UI colours as he wishes and he can do whatever he pleases with the probes, that's his business not the mfg's one. I don't use coloured probes yet I am very pleased that I can change the colours on my old TDS 544A. Probes and screen are two different things, there is no need to invent problems where there is none. Again if one wants to colour his probes, he has many DIY solutions to do it as he pleases, there is no need to wait for the manufacturer to do it for us, we aren't stupid. How many sales did Tek lose in the '90s because the colours on his TDS 500/600/700 were configurable ? Did the market boycott their scopes because oh my God they gave you the OPTION somewhere in some menu to... do what you want, should you want it ? Was there a scandal about this that almost caused Tek to go out of business ?...... |
| bd139:
New keysight multimeter probes. Now available in the following combinations: 1. Brown and brown. 2. Yellow and white 3. Blue and green. 4. Striped black and yellow and striped yellow and black. When colour scopes came out no one noticed. We didn’t even put the rings on the probes anyway :-DD As for the customer insisting they’re not stupid, that’s a fairly large assumption. |
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