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Cerebus:

--- Quote from: tggzzz on June 30, 2018, 03:02:10 pm ---If you want much  less half-baked reasoning, then read comp.risks. That is low volume, high SNR, and has been going for 30 years.

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I'm having one of my "where did the time go?" moments. I used to be a regular contributor to comp.risks (and cypherpunks) when it had been going for a few years, 6 or 7, which seemed long established at the time. Those were the days, you could have open, public discussions on Usenet with luminaries like Whitfield Diffie and Bruce Schneier without getting drowned out by noise. Sigh...

tggzzz:

--- Quote from: Cerebus on June 30, 2018, 03:23:04 pm ---
--- Quote from: tggzzz on June 30, 2018, 03:02:10 pm ---If you want much  less half-baked reasoning, then read comp.risks. That is low volume, high SNR, and has been going for 30 years.

--- End quote ---

I'm having one of my "where did the time go?" moments. I used to be a regular contributor to comp.risks (and cypherpunks) when it had been going for a few years, 6 or 7, which seemed long established at the time. Those were the days, you could have open, public discussions on Usenet with luminaries like Whitfield Diffie and Bruce Schneier without getting drowned out by noise. Sigh...

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comp.risks is still excellent, and Schneier still contributes. Can't remember when Diffie last contributed. Ross Anderson occasionally contributes.

Cerebus:

--- Quote from: tggzzz on June 30, 2018, 03:09:30 pm ---If you've ever seen a diagram trying to represent all the interconnected systems in a telco, you would start gibbering.

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I used to have a small Ericsson switch operating as an International/Carrier Preselection/VOIP gateway amongst the mixed misch-mash of things that I had to manage after my ISP had acquired three others and a small voice operator over a two year period. I used to drink, a lot.


--- Quote from: bd139 on June 30, 2018, 03:19:32 pm ---Telcos are a nightmare. I am in regular contact with someone who has to fight off the state level entities constantly attacking their core infrastructure. Billing is where telcos go to hell. That’s a tangled web of crazy.

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Fortunately back in the days I was doing this, the spooks hadn't yet cottoned on to how useful to them the Internet would be.

You are so right about telco billing. I just cannot understand why they find it so hard to go from a bunch of CDRs (call detail records) to accurate bills. Back in the day I seriously gave some though to going into the Telco Billing Software business because I knew a dozen people who would bite my hand off to get hold of a decent billing package.

bd139:
Some of the telcos worked out just not to bill people like that. Giffgaff etc. CDRs are subtractive from a standing amount and that’s it. Want itemised? Forget it. Oh what, millions saved! :)

The analog in the finance sector is commission management. That’s a world of hell. Usually held together with some VB written by a burned out crack addict.

Cerebus:

--- Quote from: tggzzz on June 30, 2018, 03:29:58 pm ---
--- Quote from: Cerebus on June 30, 2018, 03:23:04 pm ---
--- Quote from: tggzzz on June 30, 2018, 03:02:10 pm ---If you want much  less half-baked reasoning, then read comp.risks. That is low volume, high SNR, and has been going for 30 years.

--- End quote ---

I'm having one of my "where did the time go?" moments. I used to be a regular contributor to comp.risks (and cypherpunks) when it had been going for a few years, 6 or 7, which seemed long established at the time. Those were the days, you could have open, public discussions on Usenet with luminaries like Whitfield Diffie and Bruce Schneier without getting drowned out by noise. Sigh...

--- End quote ---

comp.risks is still excellent, and Schneier still contributes. Can't remember when Diffie last contributed. Ross Anderson occasionally contributes.

--- End quote ---

I'm on occasional drinking terms with Ross and some members of his team(s), I bought Whitfield his first ever pint of Fuller's ESB a few years back and sadly Bruce and I have only been the same room long enough for me to just have time to stop him, shake his hand and introduce myself for the first time about twenty years after we first corresponded.

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