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Cerebus:

--- Quote from: bd139 on July 15, 2022, 06:58:07 pm ---
--- Quote from: Cerebus on July 15, 2022, 06:56:50 pm ---
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--- Quote from: bd139 on July 15, 2022, 07:01:11 am ---Have opened a case with the seller of the original part now. Their service and communications are terrible so I’m just claiming it back via eBay now. They’re disinterested in dealing with it or sending another part out and are pushing back asking to give it another couple of days after it has been missing for two weeks now on a RM 24h delivery I paid for. So screw them. User test-equip forget it. Shame because they have a lot of tek and HP parts.

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Replying to self - eBay decided in favour of me almost instantly. Refund on the way. Good job as always  :-+

Discovered recently that due to the chip shortage, the availability of shit Arduino clones is pretty bad and the prices have gone through the roof. Considering buying the last decent "on device programmable microcontroller and electric swiss army knife" at the moment, the BBC Micro  :-DD. That and the user and printer ports give you a 6522 VIA worth of IO to play with, BASIC, assembly support and decent documentation...

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Plenty of STM32F401 Black Pill boards around at around the £5 mark.

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Yeah but I’m not inclined to punch myself in the balls arguing with the tool chain for them  :-DD

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Funnily enough I use them for precisely the opposite reason. I set up my toolchain for STM32 stuff once and for all (using ChibiOS  & the ARM version of GCC) and it gives me no problems at all on a range of X Pill boards, ST's dev boards, and my own homebrewed boards.
nixiefreqq:

--- Quote from: xrunner on July 15, 2022, 05:52:44 pm ---
--- Quote from: Cubdriver on July 15, 2022, 04:15:28 am ---And the ugly duckling turns into, well, a much less ugly duckling...  Couldn't quite get ALL the staining out, but some long soaks with Goof Off Gunk and Adhesive Remover Gel followed by some attention with a Mr. Clean magic eraser got the majority of it off.  I didn't want to soak the area by the front panel label too much for fear it would soak under and ruin label, so some of the staining in the nooks and crannies and edges by the label aren't as clean as I'd like them to be, but relative to how it showed up I think it looks pretty good.

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Excellent job!

I printed several sets of labels on the same piece of clear laser adhesive paper. After cleaning the plastic with alcohol I taped it down on a cutting mat so it wouldn't move. I carefully aligned the label and applied it. I then removed the panel so I could hold it and use a new razor blade to cut around the outside. I used a new X-Acto blade to cut out the holes.

Honestly, if you didn't know any better you wouldn't notice there was a label on there. Pat if you need any labels let me know I got 4 left.

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now that there is truly beauteous.
nixiefreqq:
what is a bbc computer?

is it a brit thing?

(really......have no idea what that is)

bd139:

--- Quote from: Cerebus on July 15, 2022, 07:55:47 pm ---
--- Quote from: bd139 on July 15, 2022, 06:58:07 pm ---
--- Quote from: Cerebus on July 15, 2022, 06:56:50 pm ---
--- Quote from: bd139 on July 15, 2022, 08:01:39 am ---
--- Quote from: bd139 on July 15, 2022, 07:01:11 am ---Have opened a case with the seller of the original part now. Their service and communications are terrible so I’m just claiming it back via eBay now. They’re disinterested in dealing with it or sending another part out and are pushing back asking to give it another couple of days after it has been missing for two weeks now on a RM 24h delivery I paid for. So screw them. User test-equip forget it. Shame because they have a lot of tek and HP parts.

--- End quote ---

Replying to self - eBay decided in favour of me almost instantly. Refund on the way. Good job as always  :-+

Discovered recently that due to the chip shortage, the availability of shit Arduino clones is pretty bad and the prices have gone through the roof. Considering buying the last decent "on device programmable microcontroller and electric swiss army knife" at the moment, the BBC Micro  :-DD. That and the user and printer ports give you a 6522 VIA worth of IO to play with, BASIC, assembly support and decent documentation...

--- End quote ---

Plenty of STM32F401 Black Pill boards around at around the £5 mark.

--- End quote ---

Yeah but I’m not inclined to punch myself in the balls arguing with the tool chain for them  :-DD

--- End quote ---

Funnily enough I use them for precisely the opposite reason. I set up my toolchain for STM32 stuff once and for all (using ChibiOS  & the ARM version of GCC) and it gives me no problems at all on a range of X Pill boards, ST's dev boards, and my own homebrewed boards.

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Ah I’ve got an AVR GCC tool chain I just unzip and go with on Debian. Just type “make deps” to install all the packages,  “make” to compile and “make prog” to zap with a USBasp programmer. Fill in main.c and job done.
bd139:

--- Quote from: nixiefreqq on July 15, 2022, 08:00:20 pm ---what is a bbc computer?

is it a brit thing?

(really......have no idea what that is)

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Yes it is. They didn’t sell in America.

Extremely important bit of kit historically. The guys who designed it designed the ARM processor that everyone has loads of everywhere. 6502 machine which was highly extensible and had a powerful OS, BASIC and assembler built in.

Emulator here which is quite frankly bloody amazing: https://virtual.bbcmic.ro/?disc1=elite.ssd&autoboot

While everyone was peeing their panties over m68k turds we had proper 32 bit RISC machines here in 1987  :-DD

https://youtu.be/MNXypBxNGMo

Edit: I’m sure everyone will come along and extol the virtues of the competing platforms of the era but they lacked versatility and quality, something Acorn was already on top of as they were a fairly extensive industrial computer supplier already.
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