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Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
Zenith:
--- Quote from: bd139 on July 17, 2022, 09:10:09 am ---Did manage to grab a manky tek 465, a solartron 7150, some 10 turn pots, TO18 heat sinks and a book to sell. And I still have change from £25 :-DD
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Not a bad haul. I got there half an hour late having taken a detour around the back lanes. In the past I've managed to drive right there off the motorway. I saw no particular bargains - at least to me - and nothing I was particularly looking for. I was a bit tempted by the odd thing, but not enough to bite.
Cerebus:
--- Quote from: mnementh on July 17, 2022, 03:23:26 pm ---
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--- Quote from: AVGresponding on July 17, 2022, 11:16:42 am ---
--- Quote from: bd139 on July 17, 2022, 11:05:29 am ---I should find out where he lives and stab his tyres early in the morning :-DD
In other news, frozen pigs just flew out of hell… it looks like it actually works.
Have ID’ed the probe sensor doesn’t work properly on one of the channels but that’s an easy fix. Might even work with a clean.
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Now now, no criminal damage... the same effect more or less can be achieved with small bits of wood ie matchsticks, jammed into the valve. It lets all the air out, but doesn't damage anything. Or you can use a Schrader tool to loosen the valve core, to the same effect.
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That still counts as criminal damage.
--- Quote from: https://www.lawtonslaw.co.uk/resources/criminal-damage/ ---The damage caused as a result of the offence does not have to be permanent. As long as the damage caused affects the value or performance of the property, this is sufficient to be classed as an act of criminal damage.
Examples of criminal damage ... Smearing mud on the walls of a police cell
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If there's any work involved in correcting what's been done, or if it [temporarily] affects the ability to use the property it counts as damage.
Letting air out of tyres might even count as aggravated criminal damage as it introduces an element that might cause physical injury to a person.
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Mmmmhmmm... so inconveniencing someone wealthy enough to own a car is criminal and prosecutable... but destroying lives and making it impossible for whole segments of the population to house or feed themselves, much less own a car, is okay because it's monopoly corporations and politicians doing it, so is just business as usual.
Does cast a stark contrast on the concepts of High Crimes and Misdemeanors vs The Golden Rule, doesn't it? :-\
EDIT: That actually is even more perverse than I originally thought. Consider this all-too-possible scenario:
Entitled dickbag parks in a handicapped spot repeatedly; often enough that someone who actually has the permit notices. Said victim calls the cops and lets the air out of his tires so he can't get away before they arrive. At worst dickbag receives a ticket he can probably get out of if he hires a lawyer; handicapped victim actually faces criminal prosecution and jail time.
mnem
we are fucking doomed.
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Criminal damage is also the law applicable to landlords cutting off their tenants electricity as harassment*, protesters pasting stickers to the windscreens of cars parked at family planning clinics, etc. etc.
Don't go making a mountain out of a molehill because some behaviour you would condone is in fact technically a criminal act. And letting the air out of some entitled a-holes tyres is just vigilantism, the result of thinking that one is sufficiently entitled by self-belief in one's own moral standing to take the law into one's own hands, hardly behaviour one should hold up as an example of the "good" being punished by an unjust law (which law anyway isn't). The extension of criminal damage to acts that don't cause immediate physical damage, but do cause loss of money, time, or use of something is entirely reasonable. If a neighbour with whom one has some sort of dispute padlocks one's gates to harass one, without causing permanent damage, is it not reasonable to treat it just the same in essence as if they had welded them shut?
You seem to have this unfounded belief that the English criminal law is something handed down from on high by the elite to oppress the huddled masses. It isn't, most criminal law in England and Wales evolved as Common Law, based on precedents set in the trials of ordinary people for the actions they took towards other ordinary people who had brought the matter before the courts for adjudication.
* Happened to a friend, who happened to be a law student. They asked their tutor for advice resulting in their head of department writing to the landlord promising that the department would support criminal charges, and if necessary prosecute them itself, if the behaviour was repeated.
Zenith:
--- Quote from: mnementh on July 17, 2022, 04:52:21 pm ---Having done the flea market trade myself, I know from experience that most flea markets who are serious about the trade (like they are in Flori-duh, for example) have such rules in place. Enforcement... ehhh... that seems to depend on the specific venue and how well or poorly they're doing ATM. ;)
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It's a different scene. At radio rallies in the UK there are a few people trading in new items, or components. A few give the impression of dealing in used gear, but not as a major source of their income. A lot of it is people having clear outs and happy to make a few quid, or silent key sales. It's far less "structured".
Vince:
--- Quote from: mnementh on July 17, 2022, 05:00:17 pm ---
--- Quote from: Vince on July 17, 2022, 04:46:10 pm ---COMPONENT SORTING
...Found the datasheet for the CPU core of the 84XX , as well as the datasheet for the MAB8441 which apparently is the same as my 8440 but just with an 8 bit LED driver added to it. So could use that datasheet and just ignore the LED bits, I guess.
I wonder if there is a way to read the contents of the internal mask ROM.... can't be bothered to read all the details of the datasheets for now, too hot for that, and I prefer paper, hate reading on screens.
At the very least, I guess one can affirm that there must be SOMETHING in that ROM... or else they would not have packaged the die in that DIP package to begin with...
Maybe at the least, I could try to power it up, give it a clock signal with my sig gen, a reset pulse.... and see if comes back to life ? Maybe it will do something....
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You have entirely too much "free" time on your hands. I think you should drag out one or two of your scopes and revisit them... maybe post some hollow-state pr0n in the thread. ;)
mnem
:popcorn:
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I will get back to my regular boat anchor activities as soon as schedule permits. Maybe in 3 months. For now, I need to finish sorting and organizing my components and misc H/W, almost done.
Then I need to resume work on my Rochar Nixie DVM because it's in a million bits all over the bench so I need to finish it, assuming I am competent enough to actually manage that, while it's still fresh in my mind, and before I lose parts and/or forget how to put them back together.
Then I need to fix and shift a couple scopes, to make some money and some much needed room. For instance, an old brown analog Philips scope, and a GOULD 1604 hybrid scope with I think the same battery leakage corrosion problem that I fixed in that other 1604 I fixed just 2 years ago now.
These are my priorities for the coming weeks/months.
When that's done, I will resume boat anchor activities. First in line is my second Tek 502A which is very sick. Started work on it when I got it last December, posted here, starting with the time base section but despite great efforts I couldn't find why it wouldn't work, so I was a bit baffled and desperate. A few months have passed since then, so hopefully with a fresh new look at it, I will this time manage to fix it.
Then after that, I need to decide what to do with my Tek 453 whose CRT HV transformer released the magic smoke. A working 453 can be found for 50 Euros, so I can't justify spending a cent on this burned transformer. Since there is nothing to lose, and if I can get enameled wire for cheap, I might try to rewind it just for "fun", as an educational thing, since I have never done it (and because the specs for it are available, of course). If I can't be bothered, then I don't know.... keep it for parts and move on. :-//
Then, I want to resume work on the restoration of my Tek 575 hollow state transistor curve tracer. But the next step is the cosmetic restoration, which will require me to buy some tools and supplies to do a decent job, so will cost some money.
Then there is my Ferisol Nixie counter. Need to make an extender PCB so I can fix a couple Nixie boards.
Then there is this and that and those and these two things over there not to mention those as well... among other things of course ! >:D
But if I can get those first few things I listed, done this year, that would be cool.
Cerebus:
--- Quote from: Specmaster on July 17, 2022, 04:32:44 pm ---That's about it, it's like, at least in the UK, it is not illegal for someone to park their car on your driveway, but it is illegal for you to remove it or damage it in any way :wtf:
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Wrong in almost every important respect. It is unlawful for someone to park on your driveway(tort), it is not unlawful to have said vehicle moved on private property, but becomes illegal the moment on is on public property unless one is properly licensed to do so or is a bailiff acting under court order, or anyone acting under the directions of a police constable or traffic warden (RTA), it is unlawful to damage it in so doing (tort), but recent precedent shows that it is not illegal to damage it in doing so (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-60260155). It is illegal to clamp or otherwise immobilise a vehicle on private property except by closing a gate or barrier that was present but not closed when the vehicle was parked (Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 S.54).
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