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Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
Cerebus:
Quiet in 'ere today innit?
Geoff been in?
Specmaster:
Ebay is also very quiet, where has all the good stuff gone?
mnementh:
--- Quote from: PA0PBZ on July 04, 2018, 07:25:13 pm ---Treason day
The 4th of July when American's celebrate their ancestors betrayal of their rightful King because they didn't want to pay tax to fund the Royal Navy.
They also celebrate having the world's largest military for which they pay large amounts of tax.
--- End quote ---
No, not the Royal Navy (Even though the merchant marine of the time sometimes thought of themselves that way) those taxes taxes went directly to shore up the East India Tea Company, who also had exclusive rights to all tea sales in the colonies. The colonies were the victims of a particularly pernicious monarchy-mandated circle-jerk without having a seat at the table, which is what eventually resulted in all that unpleasantness in the Boston Harbor back then.
As with all matters of import (or matters of taxation and export), if you want to know what really happened and why, FOLLOW. THE. MONEY.
As for this bloated military which directly or indirectly accounts for more than 50% or our national budget and 90% of our massive national debt, I have no answers. I've been fighting this lunacy since I was 12; Cassandra got nuthin' on me. :palm:
Eisenhauer warned us; Orwell warned us. Instead of moving to prevent these horrors from repeating on American soil, the powers that be treated Ike's exit speech and 1984 as a blueprint for their new world order.
mnem
https://youtu.be/OyBNmecVtdU
https://www.npr.org/2011/01/17/132942244/
"Good luck, and may your god go with you."
bitseeker:
--- Quote from: Specmaster on July 05, 2018, 01:07:13 am ---Ebay is also very quiet, where has all the good stuff gone?
--- End quote ---
I guess it's eBay Independence Day. We're TEA-free! :-DD
Cerebus:
--- Quote from: mnementh on July 05, 2018, 02:24:36 am ---No, not the Royal Navy (Even though the merchant marine of the time sometimes thought of themselves that way) those taxes taxes went directly to shore up the East India Tea Company, who also had exclusive rights to all tea sales in the colonies. The colonies were the victims of a particularly pernicious monarchy-mandated circle-jerk without having a seat at the table, which is what eventually resulted in all that unpleasantness in the Boston Harbor back then.
As with all matters of import (or matters of taxation and export), if you want to know what really happened and why, FOLLOW. THE. MONEY.
--- End quote ---
It's funny how countries schools never teach their children the inglorious parts of their history. In British schools we're told lots of good things about ourselves but not about the grossest parts of our history. So, Winston Churchill is a hero, not the man who ordered the massive use of chemical weapons against Russian revolutionaries in Emtsa in August 1919, or their use against Iraqi Kurds in the early 1920's. The huge war crime of the fire bombing of the civilian population of Dresden by the RAF got no mention in my history lessons. I've never know a Briton who knew about these things from school history lessons.
Similarly I've never know an American who knew the fully story of the prelude to the US Revolution from what they had been taught in school. In US schools, little or no mention is made of the Royal Proclamation of 1763 which established a line down the Appalachians which was supposed to be the limit of British settlement in North America, leaving the area to the west of the Proclamation Line for the Native Americans (and Spanish territory from the west coast inland). European scholars conclude that it was objections to this restriction that ultimately sparked the American Revolution ten years later, not a principled stand against "No taxation without representation". American scholars, for some reason, take the exact opposite position. On the "follow the money" principle, which is more likely a motivator, skipping a bit of tax*, or a massive land grab for the purposes of property speculation.
* 18th century taxes were generally negligible compared to modern levels of taxation and the tax on tea, a highly taxed luxury good, was 3d a pound versus a price of 24d a pound including tax (12.5% gross, 14.28% net). There was no Income Tax in Britain until 1798, when it was at the staggering level of 0.83% for income over £60 a year (£7140 present value).
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