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tggzzz:

--- Quote from: Robert763 on January 03, 2025, 12:30:47 pm ---I knew free selling from ebay was too good to be true!
Just had a email saying they are "improving buyer protection". What that actually means is they are adding 4% +75p "buyer protection fee" on top of your listing price AND not releasing funds until the item has been delivered.
This is basically the Vinted model and that has had lots of complaints. I'f you list an item at £10 it appaers to buyers at £11.15

It's not obvious how the buyer fee works for an auction but I guess if the buyer bids £10 the seller only sees a bid of £8.85 (£10 -4% -75p) So that is a seller fee not a buyer fee. I cant see tham letting a buyer bid £10 and then making them pay £11.15.

 >:(

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i haven't had that email - yet.

How would the "no payout until delivered" work with untracked deliveries? That and the delay wouldn't bother me as a seller[1], but would be a problem when I buy low-priced items.

Just received the "we'll hold on to your cash for up to 3 months, unless you transfer it yourself" email.

[1] except as an example of creeping enshittification. (I'm typing that word so often now that I've just added it to my dictionary :( )
factory:
Guess it not going to be obvious until this buyer fee (really a seller fee IMO) starts on the 4th of Feb.

Wonder how this is going to work with, buying multiple low value items from one private seller, are they going to charge the 4% + 75p per item, or 4% + 75p per transaction with that seller.  :-//

Edit: Will this also lead to asking prices increasing? e.g. when sellers look at completed listings & see the sold price, list their item at that price, which then becomes 4% + 75p more to the next buyer and repeat.
Next seller look at completed listings & sees the higher sold price, list their item at that even higher price, which then becomes 4% + 75p more to the next buyer and repeat......

David
Robert763:
Indeed, It's 79% fee on a £1 item.
factory:

--- Quote from: Robert763 on January 03, 2025, 02:54:13 pm ---Indeed, It's 79% fee on a £1 item.

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And to compete with business sellers on a £1 item, a private listing for the same item would need to be priced at 21 pence, makes it even less worth bothering with. I can't remember what they charged before (probably what they wanted to happen).

Business sellers (with no shop) seem to have a minimum of 30p per listing + 30p per order + variable final value fee.


--- Quote from: Robert763 on December 30, 2024, 01:34:21 pm ---There also seem to be a lot of private sellers who look a lot like businesses. ebay UK have also changed the reporting system and no longer have an option for reporting that a seller is a business. I've not bought a single piece of TE on ebay since October.

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Found this on ePay's forum, relating to finding business sellers hiding as private sellers, wonder if they will ever find that trader (of TE & TE parts) that has multiple private accounts & turn them into business accounts.


--- Quote ---https://community.ebay.co.uk/t5/Announcements/Changes-to-selling-fees-for-private-sellers-amp-new-benefits-for/ba-p/7684924

More steps to address false private sellers

At eBay, we are dedicated to ensuring a fair and equitable marketplace for all business sellers. To achieve this, we monitor trading activities, and we’ll continuously help business sellers using a private account to transition to a business account, or restrict selling activity as necessary. In addition, we’ve reduced the number of free listings available to private sellers.

Over the next few months, we'll be ramping up our marketing initiatives to highlight the benefits of using eBay for both sellers and buyers, and showcase what makes it such a unique marketplace. Our goal is to continuously attract new customers and ensure they receive exceptional service.
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David
Vince:




A little distraction from Ebay. I never go there, instead I just search Leboncoin.fr. It's like walking around a giant flea market. I like being surprised at what I might find whenever I visit. And before X-max I found this :

https://www.leboncoin.fr/ad/equipements_industriels/2897609579

I have enough hollow-state Tek scopes here, so a couple years ago or so, I started changing the goal, and now enjoy going after smaller TE of that same era, that accompanied these scopes. Like special / uncommon plug-ins, special TE to calibrate this or that in the scope. Makes for a more vibrant and interesting "ecosystem", than just having bare scopes, doesn't it ? Yes it does, to me at least.

So in this vein I have managed to find so far :

- A type 107 fast pulse generator, to check B/W and frequency response of vertical amps.
- A type 1121 wide band pre-amp
- A type 180A time mark / comb generator to calibrate the horizontal amplifier of the scope

and today... this.... thing, which I can't even tell you what "type" it is because it doesn't even have one !  :-DD
It's purely a calibration fixture, and often Tek didn't give them a type number, but instead a long sequence of digits that looks very much like the part-number of a... single part, not a complete instrument.

This thing they call a "Amplitude calibrator and comparator".
Looked in the manual, it's designed solely to fine tune the amplitude of the calibrator output of the scope. The scope already has a trimmer to fine tune this, but I guess with a calibrator it's more... accurate. I don't know, I just found this thing cool and cute, so I could not resist buying it. I am very excited to welcome the fourth member of my debuting collection of 500 scope "peripherals" so to speak  :D

At first, it was advertised at 80 or 90 Euros IIRC. Too expensive for such a small TE, especially since it was untested, no pics of the inside (so for all I knew there could be missing parts and tons of corrosion), and more worrying, at the rear : a missing foot, missing fuse holder, and the (hard wired) power cord has an American plug ! So clearly that instrument has been messed with, and chances are it's still wired for 120V and maybe someone plugged it straight to the 240V and fried the transformer and 90% of the components inside the instrument...

So yeah, all that considered, 90 Euros was a bit much to me ! So I waited a few weeks, luckily nobody bought / "stole" it from me.... and eventually price got dropped to 45 Euros ! That's much more like it... but still a bit dear given all I said above. So I asked the seller pics of the inside... to my surprise he agreed and sent them to me. Inside it looked complete and like new, zero sign of corrosion or mould. Ah... that's nice. Still, TE might be fried, so I used that to bargain him and offered 35 instead of 45. He agreed, and today here it is on my bench !!!  :D

It came as a "kit".... of course he had no clue how to open the cabinet to take the requested pics of the inside, so he removed lots more parts that he needed to ! But he put all the bits nicely in a plastic bag to make sure nothing got lost.

So I will try to put it all back in one piece...

Inside, of special interest... look at the wafer switch / attenuator with tons of high precision flat wire-wound resistors ! Gorgeous  8)
And there is a miniature electro-mechanical "chopper" switch/relay as well. I hope it works fine or I am screwed, good luck finding a replacement for this thing I guess...

The transformer looks "mundane" though : it doesn't have a nice painted Tek blue stamped cover on top. Oh well...

Front handle oozes quality, a nice cast alloy part.

Will try to find a moment to play with it this week-end. Clean it best I can, re-assemble it, check the wiring and health of the transformer, add a fuse holder, fit a Euro cord so I can power it up to test it. I guess it will be a perfect excuse to use my newly acquired variac. Will start at 120V and see what comes out...  before I dare to give it the full 240V.

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