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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #26200 on: February 27, 2019, 01:13:49 am »
So lets hear some tunes. Bonus points if you run it into a Live Utube stream @Brumby :-DD

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #26201 on: February 27, 2019, 01:15:58 am »
Oh, I'm definitely doing that!
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #26202 on: February 27, 2019, 03:12:51 am »
Several hours of settling and dropped what I suspect is my most accurate meter on the Fluke 335D. I know the Advantest is off.

Mmmm The evidence is that my 18 year old out of Cal 34401A is a chunk better than a 5 year old non Calibrated and non adjusted 34461A. Buy good quality stale old TEA is the answer it seems :o

Yep, well-aged voltage ref. For stability, old is a good thing. For the rest, YMMV.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #26203 on: February 27, 2019, 03:18:43 am »
This is the TEA group.  Masochism is endemic, perhaps even mandatory.

Hells YES! This needs to be No 11 of the 10 Laws of TEA! :-DD

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #26204 on: February 27, 2019, 03:21:46 am »
Is it masochistic to spend an afternoon, ridding a TM503 plug-in of twenty years of accumulated grime with a toothbrush? Not that I know anyone that does anything like that. Just wondering...
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #26205 on: February 27, 2019, 03:35:41 am »
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #26206 on: February 27, 2019, 03:38:23 am »
For @GregDunn and anyone else who wants it. 3D printer STL for the Rear Foot of the 3000 series HP Aluminium cases.

Print it with 0.1 layers if you want it cleaner on the angled bits and right way up with supports to keep the holes and strength at their best.

The Zip file contains both the STL and also the Fusion 360 file if anyone wants to play. It could maybe have an extra 1/2-1 degree of Angle where it meets the case but mine all pulled down fine with the stock screws when printed in PLA.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #26207 on: February 27, 2019, 03:54:18 am »
Is it masochistic to spend an afternoon, ridding a TM503 plug-in of twenty years of accumulated grime with a toothbrush? Not that I know anyone that does anything like that. Just wondering...

That'd be a TEAthbrush. ;D
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #26208 on: February 27, 2019, 04:08:25 am »
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #26209 on: February 27, 2019, 04:10:17 am »
Wow - a 5221A counter just went for north of $100 on everyone's favorite wallet draining site.  It looked to be in really nice shape, had the full complement of six digits, both feet and was said to include the cord and be working, but that was a bit rich for my blood.  May whoever snagged it enjoy it in good health.   
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #26210 on: February 27, 2019, 04:11:37 am »
US$100 for a 5221A? Granted, it has options 02 and 03, badge, and feet, but wowzers.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1969-Hewlett-Packard-Model-5221A-Electronic-Frequency-Counter-Nixie-Tube-/264205009124?nordt=true

 :-DD  Guess we were both watching that one, huh?

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #26211 on: February 27, 2019, 05:44:17 am »
In other News...



My blog on the  1055T/RX580 Resto-Rod PC  is up; I decided to make it a separate article as it was just WAAAAAY too big to dump in here.  :scared:

Go look at the pretty pictures, and have a giggle at my OCD.  :-DD

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #26212 on: February 27, 2019, 06:55:10 am »
If you guys are interested in some RF 'porn' , how about 370W, linear modulation, at 1296MHz,
Below are the splitter and combiner of the PA, needs about 20-30A at 28V.
Output is via the small heliax. Built for some earth-moon-earth but got p****ed off with quite a few transmit-receive sequencing issues - and kept blowing up the pre-amp 36dB gain NF 0.3. I will come back to it at some stage!
Whoah! Watch where that landed we might need it later.
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #26213 on: February 27, 2019, 07:16:39 am »
US$100 for a 5221A? Granted, it has options 02 and 03, badge, and feet, but wowzers.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1969-Hewlett-Packard-Model-5221A-Electronic-Frequency-Counter-Nixie-Tube-/264205009124?nordt=true

 :-DD  Guess we were both watching that one, huh?

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My, my. What a coincidence. We even posted about it consecutively. :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #26214 on: February 27, 2019, 07:28:57 am »
Your Canon 5D is actually an upgrade to mine, with Canon, the lower the number the higher grade the camera is culminating with the 1D at some £5,400 just for the body. The ranges in the single digit are the top models and goes like 7, 6, 5 and then 1 so in reality yours is 2 steps up from mine and 1 step down from the top model.

Oh nooo... another rabbit hole. How can be possible? TEA is growing in all directions.
Got a Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM about a year ago for 1100€ on evilbay when new it was 2K€. It was working fine then about 3 months ago I noticed the manual focus was skipping in one direction. Oh well I will send in for repair. Got the letter from Canon Deutschalnd back yesterday: USM, Stabilization System and IS are done. My budget was 250€ worst case for this repair. And here it comes... wait...

909,76€

to get the shit fixed, 376€ are labor work (4h) already included.

I know it's not an option for everyone, but I have subscribed to Canon's CPS Gold membership.  It provides a free clean and check for all gear which has coverage, a sizable discount on repair and shipping plus expedited turnaround.  So far it has been a wash in terms of cost, but knowing that if the worst happens they can have a repair or loaner in my hands quickly makes for peace of mind.  They'll also do an estimate if you're unsure about whether it's going to be worth it.
That's a thought, that's also a reason why I have 2 bodies in my camera bag, another reason is that I keep another lens on it at all times. This provides me with a working camera as backup if the main one fails, gives instant access to a lens more suitable for job, ie close up or telephoto. This saves swapping lenses over in a less than suitable environment and thus prevents dust getting on the sensor.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #26215 on: February 27, 2019, 07:30:45 am »
Yikes! That's a big mo-fo. It has mortgage the farm written all over it.  :scared:
Na, it twasn't too bad, NZD950 plus a 1hr drive each way to collect it.  :phew:

Nearly 50kg though and the backend pulsed at little getting it into place.  :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #26216 on: February 27, 2019, 07:35:59 am »
Yikes! That's a big mo-fo. It has mortgage the farm written all over it.  :scared:
Na, it twasn't too bad, NZD950 plus a 1hr drive each way to collect it.  :phew:

Nearly 50kg though and the backend pulsed at little getting it into place.  :-DD

Ouch, $655 USD is still a good chunk of change but you gotta do it when it comes to a decent water supply. And a 110 pounds dead weight...hernia city.  :-DD
Really this one was pretty well priced compared to the little 7 stage single phase one that we had as a backup and bought some 35 yrs back. IIRC it was at least as much $, probably more.
The newbie is a beast by comparison.
Here's the manufacturers webpage for the one I bought, a LVR4-12:
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The seller was a small fry single brand distributor like myself but specialized in pumps. She was pretty switched on and ran all my piping and static head specs over the phone so to be sure it would do the/my job.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #26217 on: February 27, 2019, 07:38:56 am »
I should not have watched this. Our leader telling me I should have a 6.5 digit DMM on my bench. He almost has me convinced.  :scared:



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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #26218 on: February 27, 2019, 07:41:34 am »
Yeah, that's a tough call. Do you tell the unvarnished truth, or replace the switch on GP  to justify being there? Some clients require that I replace the part, no matter what. Some allow me to use my best judgement. Some tell me to err on the side of caution.

If I'm working for myself, I usually tell them the truth and let them decide if they want to pay X amount and probably be good to go, or X plus Y amount to have brand-new installed and not have to wonder how long it will last.

Surprisingly, I often get the latter... and I either put the old part in my stash of emergency spares or in the new part box and hand it to the customer, as they choose.

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Would have added $25-40 of Switch to the job and taken another 15 minutes to fit resulting in even more Dairy Farmer (most sooky) unhappiness. The contacts and the switch bodies on these are open to insects of all sorts including spiders of the nasty bitey kind. Normally the spring would smoosh (technical term) them into pulp and the 240V induced spark would bake their bodies away but this earwig had enough exo skeleton to prevent the smooshing.

Yeah, I grew up on a farm. I know EXACTLY what you're talking about; as my grandfather used to say: "You can't make a living selling to people who're scraping the earth for pocket change."

There's a reason I got away from "the life" as quick as I could when I grew up: You don't get up and go to work; you get up and you're surrounded by it. And poverty. :o

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #26219 on: February 27, 2019, 07:42:42 am »
It just occurred to me...

When removing the attenuators from my 8656B, I only ever used a single spanner on the SMA connectors - but when I put it back together, I needed a second, smaller spanner to tighten up the connection between the short piece of solid coax attached to the rear panel socket and the longer shaped piece that ran around to the output of the attenuators towards the front.  This was an inline connection, just floating in mid-air.

Could it be that this connection was loose all along with the centre conductors not touching, but close enough for a weak capacitive coupling?  If that were the case, then the output being down -116dB would seem pretty reasonable to me.  This explains why I didn't detect anything ... my ability to detect low level signals drops off at around -70dBm to no hope in hell at -80dBm.

Was the fault simply a loose SMA connection that I could have fixed in 5 seconds (quite literally)?

Or is this the trap set by Murphy?
It sure sounds plausible to me.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #26220 on: February 27, 2019, 07:43:08 am »
Yikes! That's a big mo-fo. It has mortgage the farm written all over it.  :scared:
Na, it twasn't too bad, NZD950 plus a 1hr drive each way to collect it.  :phew:

Nearly 50kg though and the backend pulsed at little getting it into place.  :-DD
No dodgy electrics this time, eh[emoji1696]

It was made in China from potentially dubious stainless steel ources and involves mains wiring what could possibly go wrong  :o

Is the motor ex China @Tautech or a local sourced IEC flanged one that meets a local spec?
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #26221 on: February 27, 2019, 07:45:36 am »
I should not have watched this. Our leader telling me I should have a 6.5 digit DMM on my bench. He almost has me convinced.  :scared:

If you don't hear from me I'll be on Evil bay.  :-DD

Inverted was still alive as of an hour ago when I had an email from him I am sure he has a 'spare' he would send your way for a small donation  :-DD

Seems likely if the list is still correct. Chief Enabler working hard  ;D

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Fluke 8502A, 6.5 digit, DMM, no issues and loaded with ALL the option cards.                                                                                 $200 (not GPA)
Fluke 8506A, 6.5 digit, DMM, no issues, loaded minus current shunt card.                                                                                       $150
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #26222 on: February 27, 2019, 07:50:37 am »
If you guys are interested in some RF 'porn' , how about 370W, linear modulation, at 1296MHz,
Below are the splitter and combiner of the PA, needs about 20-30A at 28V.
Output is via the small heliax. Built for some earth-moon-earth but got p****ed off with quite a few transmit-receive sequencing issues - and kept blowing up the pre-amp 36dB gain NF 0.3. I will come back to it at some stage!

That’s a beasty! Want to try some EME myself when I get somewhere big enough for a yagi array
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #26223 on: February 27, 2019, 07:53:07 am »
I should not have watched this. Our leader telling me I should have a 6.5 digit DMM on my bench. He almost has me convinced.  :scared:



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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #26224 on: February 27, 2019, 07:58:13 am »
Not more than 5 minutes ago an event took place that I've been anticipating since 1968. The first Social Security payment just passed into my account. That's MY money that I've been contributing since then and I want it.  :-DD I'm glad something in the .gov is working despite the politicians using SSI as a slush fund for other stuff and is going broke.  :palm:

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