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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #35350 on: July 21, 2019, 07:40:46 pm »
Well bugger me whoever did the call on this scope was a fucking mong. The thing was calibrated at the wrong end of the variable detents  :palm: :palm: :palm: :palm: . Slowly working through the cal process...
Fortunately, you're smarter than they were.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #35351 on: July 21, 2019, 07:43:34 pm »
Well bugger me whoever did the call on this scope was a fucking mong. The thing was calibrated at the wrong end of the variable detents  :palm: :palm: :palm: :palm: . Slowly working through the cal process...
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Smarter? Definitely. Cuter? Now you're pushing.  >:D :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #35352 on: July 21, 2019, 07:52:17 pm »
Scratch the 98.2 degrees F.   99.1 degrees F.  :phew: :scared:
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #35353 on: July 21, 2019, 08:28:00 pm »
Scratch the 98.2 degrees F.   99.1 degrees F.  :phew: :scared:

hey med

there is a smallish  box sitting on the kitchen island.  will pass a post office tomorrow on the way to lunch with the retired geezers.

you have been warned.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #35354 on: July 21, 2019, 08:51:33 pm »
Well bugger me whoever did the call on this scope was a fucking mong. The thing was calibrated at the wrong end of the variable detents  :palm: :palm: :palm: :palm: . Slowly working through the cal process...
Fortunately, you're smarter than they were.

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 :o

I think a monkey is smarter  :-DD

Anyway it's done, calibrated and it's working nicely. Only outstanding issues are a hefty gash on the shield and the cal signal loop is broken off. I will work out a cunning plan to resolve those issues shortly. Component tester works nicely. Latest date code is around 1983. All capacitors test fine as well.

CRT is pin sharp:



Cleaned up:



DG1022Z standing in as a time-mark generator.



Might buy another one if I see it for spares  :-DD

Edit: some performance measurements:

1. Rise time = 12.5ns ~ 28MHz bandwidth. Not bad
2. 3dB point = 26Mhz. Also not bad.
3. Triggers to = 48MHz. Pretty good
4. Displays signal to = 92MHz. Pretty good.

Not bad for a 20MHz scope.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #35355 on: July 21, 2019, 09:07:46 pm »
Scratch the 98.2 degrees F.   99.1 degrees F.  :phew: :scared:

hey med

there is a smallish  box sitting on the kitchen island.  will pass a post office tomorrow on the way to lunch with the retired geezers.

you have been warned.

 :scared:




Thanks!  :-DD :-+
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #35356 on: July 21, 2019, 09:39:57 pm »
Looking at LoRa chirps in modulation domain....and also shameless RPN porn just for nixiefreqq and his ilk.  :-DD  >:D  :-DD  >:D

 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #35357 on: July 21, 2019, 09:45:23 pm »
Scratch the 98.2 degrees F.   99.1 degrees F.  :phew: :scared:

hey med

there is a smallish  box sitting on the kitchen island.  will pass a post office tomorrow on the way to lunch with the retired geezers.

you have been warned.

 :scared:




Thanks!  :-DD :-+

holy shit!  that is exactly the way it's gonna play out!

(you actually made me laugh out loud)


ps  on the way home from taco bell just now the truck said it was 97F.  (swmbo suggested it!  it does sorta' resemble food.)
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #35358 on: July 21, 2019, 09:52:31 pm »

Its another Philips. Couldn't find anything resembling a manual, but for less than 22 € including shipping you can't do much wrong:




Looks like one of the Japanese made ones (a re-branded Takeda Riken), I have a Philips PM 2423 multimeter made by them.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #35359 on: July 21, 2019, 09:56:19 pm »
there was a slight problem with your pic that totally ruined its erotic value.

fixed it.  now it says "ewww baby ewww baby".  (without that sort of granny porn distraction)
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #35360 on: July 21, 2019, 10:03:23 pm »
 :box:  :-DD  :-DD

Come on now, that's some quality porn there. Covering it up is a shame!  >:D
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #35361 on: July 21, 2019, 10:09:14 pm »
:box:  :-DD  :-DD

Come on now, that's some quality porn there. Covering it up is a shame!  >:D

nope.....it will not abide.   (and my "ilk" agrees).

edit   ps that 53310 sure looks sweet!
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #35362 on: July 21, 2019, 10:15:55 pm »
Luck was on my side yesterday and I scored this nice frequency counter; a BK Precision 1803D.
Sure, it's quite basic for a FC, but a basic frequency counter is better than no frequency counter at all.
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #35363 on: July 21, 2019, 10:33:11 pm »
:box:  :-DD  :-DD

Come on now, that's some quality porn there. Covering it up is a shame!  >:D

nope.....it will not abide.   (and my "ilk" agrees).

edit   ps that 53310 sure looks sweet!

More RPN for the rest of us.  :-DD

Thanks! It's in really nice shape. I ended up swapping the power supply with the one k7je rebuilt in the unit I purchased from him. Probably order the BOM from digikey and rebuilt this one so I'll have two good power supplies.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #35364 on: July 21, 2019, 10:34:56 pm »
Luck was on my side yesterday and I scored this nice frequency counter; a BK Precision 1803D.
Sure, it's quite basic for a FC, but a basic frequency counter is better than no frequency counter at all.

looks good!   but it is lacking something.......... maybe nixie-ness?
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #35365 on: July 21, 2019, 10:38:57 pm »
Luck was on my side yesterday and I scored this nice frequency counter; a BK Precision 1803D.
Sure, it's quite basic for a FC, but a basic frequency counter is better than no frequency counter at all.

looks good!   but it is lacking something.......... maybe nixie-ness?
Dude, I'd kill for a frequency counter with nixie tubes, haha. But that would be too much to ask from our rather-lacking second-hand lab gear market.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #35366 on: July 21, 2019, 10:40:20 pm »
:box:  :-DD  :-DD

Come on now, that's some quality porn there. Covering it up is a shame!  >:D

nope.....it will not abide.   (and my "ilk" agrees).

edit   ps that 53310 sure looks sweet!

More RPN for the rest of us.  :-DD

Thanks! It's in really nice shape. I ended up swapping the power supply with the one k7je rebuilt in the unit I purchased from him. Probably order the BOM from digikey and rebuilt this one so I'll have two good power supplies.

is that the same ps found in the 54500 series?  almost looks like you could swap a 53310a motherboard into a 54501a and it would work.  (naaaaaw....could never happen)
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #35367 on: July 21, 2019, 10:46:02 pm »
:box:  :-DD  :-DD

Come on now, that's some quality porn there. Covering it up is a shame!  >:D

nope.....it will not abide.   (and my "ilk" agrees).

edit   ps that 53310 sure looks sweet!

Since Nixiefreqq sez so, I must concur.  ;D
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #35368 on: July 21, 2019, 10:49:01 pm »
Luck was on my side yesterday and I scored this nice frequency counter; a BK Precision 1803D.
Sure, it's quite basic for a FC, but a basic frequency counter is better than no frequency counter at all.

Hey, up until last week all I had was a "basic" frequency counter. Now apparently I am about to become a full-fledged time nut.  :scared:

Not sure how that happen.  :-// :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #35369 on: July 21, 2019, 10:50:51 pm »
Dude, I'd kill for a frequency counter with nixie tubes, haha. But that would be too much to ask from our rather-lacking second-hand lab gear market.

You could always go back a generation, to dekatron counters, e.g. https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/msg2343000/#msg2343000
There are lies, damned lies, statistics - and ADC/DAC specs.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #35370 on: July 21, 2019, 10:53:31 pm »
I've finally got around to opening 1/3 of a previous acquisition.

If I can't figure out how to use it, at least I should be able to recoup my investment...

The serried ranks are all 20K 0.005% Vishay VHP202K resistors. I believe the handwritten number are the serial numbers. A quick google indicates they are oil-filled bulk metal foil resistors, and if you have to ask the price, you can't afford them :)




No, I'm not going to say what this is, other than that it is a 3U 19" rack unit, and the schematic is shown on the front panel :)
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #35371 on: July 21, 2019, 11:12:17 pm »
:box:  :-DD  :-DD

Come on now, that's some quality porn there. Covering it up is a shame!  >:D

nope.....it will not abide.   (and my "ilk" agrees).

edit   ps that 53310 sure looks sweet!

More RPN for the rest of us.  :-DD

Thanks! It's in really nice shape. I ended up swapping the power supply with the one k7je rebuilt in the unit I purchased from him. Probably order the BOM from digikey and rebuilt this one so I'll have two good power supplies.

is that the same ps found in the 54500 series?  almost looks like you could swap a 53310a motherboard into a 54501a and it would work.  (naaaaaw....could never happen)

It might be. These instruments are super modular. The PSU itself is made by a third party, not HP.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #35372 on: July 21, 2019, 11:18:22 pm »
Luck was on my side yesterday and I scored this nice frequency counter; a BK Precision 1803D.
Sure, it's quite basic for a FC, but a basic frequency counter is better than no frequency counter at all.

Hey, up until last week all I had was a "basic" frequency counter. Now apparently I am about to become a full-fledged time nut.  :scared:

Not sure how that happen.  :-// :-DD

I definitely think I'll start obsessing over time accuracy with this counter. But I'll need a good strategy to get gear from eBay first... like a P.O box, a friend willing to receive boxes to my name at his address and then send them to me, or something like that.

Dude, I'd kill for a frequency counter with nixie tubes, haha. But that would be too much to ask from our rather-lacking second-hand lab gear market.

You could always go back a generation, to dekatron counters, e.g. https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/msg2343000/#msg2343000

I think I need both kind of displays now.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #35373 on: July 21, 2019, 11:37:30 pm »
Dude, I'd kill for a frequency counter with nixie tubes, haha. But that would be too much to ask from our rather-lacking second-hand lab gear market.

You could always go back a generation, to dekatron counters, e.g. https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/msg2343000/#msg2343000

I think I need both kind of displays now.

... and then you can move onto the delicious (and fairly widely available) Panaplex displays. They are so restful and harmonious that every home should have some. (But please not anything with a red filter so they look more like LEDs!). Example:  https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/test-equipment-anonymous-(tea)-group-therapy-thread/msg1503049/?topicseen#msg1503049

I hope you are, by now, getting the feel of this thread.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #35374 on: July 21, 2019, 11:47:53 pm »
I've finally got around to opening 1/3 of a previous acquisition.

If I can't figure out how to use it, at least I should be able to recoup my investment...

The serried ranks are all 20K 0.005% Vishay VHP202K resistors. I believe the handwritten number are the serial numbers. A quick google indicates they are oil-filled bulk metal foil resistors, and if you have to ask the price, you can't afford them :)




No, I'm not going to say what this is, other than that it is a 3U 19" rack unit, and the schematic is shown on the front panel :)

Parting it out is a sin  :scared:

Looks like something made by Datron
 


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