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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47675 on: January 23, 2020, 01:22:51 am »
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47676 on: January 23, 2020, 01:23:40 am »
Now you are headed down the Dark side proper. You were looking for Enclosures last night so checkout the Sheetmetal functionality of Fusion 360  :-DD

I attach a plaything I designed then Laser cut (you NEED one of them too ;) ) but if you want a custom look then it is worth giving it a go. Send your DXF off to a local sheetmetal company with a Laser or Plasma table and get what you really need not what you can get.

A word of caution here. It's easy for the naïve user to draw up something that's difficult or impossible to fabricate. You need a basic grasp of the various processes used to have an idea of what's possible and what isn't. For instance, a naīve design might put a J or U fold into a piece of sheet metal that's so narrow that it's impossible to make without specialised tooling, whereas a nice wide J or U can be turned out on any box and pan folder.

I'm not saying "don't do it", just make sure that you've got enough basic understanding of how some poor sod will have to try and turn your drawing into something fabricated so that (1) he doesn't curse you and all your decendents, (2) it can be manufactured in the most economic fashion.

This is where the demise of the local 'backstreet' engineering workshops is a tragedy, you could go and have a chat with the bloke who did the work and he'd set you right if you were asking the impossible, or had chosen a design that was expensive to make where a few changes would get you something much cheaper to make. It's a particular tragedy for me, as there are a couple of places within 3-4 minutes walk of me that look exactly like they used to be 'backstreet' machine shops and are no more.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47677 on: January 23, 2020, 01:33:34 am »
Now I'm having nightmares ...   |O      :-DD
Of how much happier mnem might look when not wearing pants ? That thought crossed my mind too.  :-//
Not helpful. NOT helpful!  :o  :palm:  :o  :palm:  |O      ;D

Blame Specmaster; that was payback for the nosebagel facesplosion. Y'all were just collateral damage. :-DD

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47678 on: January 23, 2020, 01:35:28 am »
I agree not a job without some sheetmetal experience but at least with a CAD model you can get your idea across to someone clearly without toilet paper sketches with absolutely no allowances for manufacturing tolerances.

In the sheetmetal functionality you can set minimum bend radius's (also allows for the extra material in the bend) for the chosen material allowance for welding etc. The one commercial job I have had my local bloke do had a minor bend related issue but it was picked up even before cutting. Quick change my end and then back to them by email. Picked up the finished bracket two days later.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47679 on: January 23, 2020, 01:43:14 am »




Proof that TEA makes you happy. :-DD

How do I erase that vision from my memory?  :palm:

Large quantities of hard liquor?   :-//

:P :P :P

-Pat

(We're lucky our resident dwagon is a good sport!)

Actually, I'm the sort of bastard who'd dump a jarful of scorpions out in a lifeboat just to see who can swim.  >:D

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47680 on: January 23, 2020, 01:48:16 am »




Proof that TEA makes you happy. :-DD

How do I erase that vision from my memory?  :palm:

Large quantities of hard liquor?   :-//

:P :P :P

-Pat

(We're lucky our resident dwagon is a good sport!)

Actually, I'm the sort of bastard who'd dump a jarful of scorpions out in a lifeboat just to see who can swim.  >:D

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Jeeeez, you guys are a bunch of pansies if that is the worst thing you've seen!

Fusion 360 can't be too bad, even I have made a few things with it. But like any computer program - it's main aim is to waste your time!
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47681 on: January 23, 2020, 01:53:02 am »
Has anybody ever tried to use these desoldering blades?
Example: Edsyn RB641

https://www.conrad.de/de/p/edsyn-entloetklingenband-edsyn-rb641-entloetklingenband-rb641-2144527.html



Edit:

This is the holder tool: Edsyn ST-706
https://www.ebay.com/itm/202803481888


I will ask my technician tomorrow. I have some lying around, as well as their 'desoldering wire', but not used it yet.
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47682 on: January 23, 2020, 02:01:10 am »

Jeeeez, you guys are a bunch of pansies if that is the worst thing you've seen!

Fusion 360 can't be too bad, even I have made a few things with it. But like any computer program - it's main aim is to waste your time!
Rob

You mean like sketching up a Garage Roof you haven't properly measured yet  :-DD This two G&T time waster got me to a materials budget of $1200 for the wood and roofing materials. Now I can go in with the measuring stick and measure the 50+ year old frames for actual truss building.

Planning on doing the Truss building myself to keep the costs down.

Drinking G&T is not a waste of time ever and double using the time must mean a saving therefore I must drink more   >:D
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47683 on: January 23, 2020, 02:08:27 am »
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47684 on: January 23, 2020, 02:26:51 am »
I thought Fusion 360 was supposed to be free? The links I have for it say its free 1st year to students, after year 1 the fee £263 per year  :wtf:
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47685 on: January 23, 2020, 02:32:29 am »
It is free unless you are over the $100k/year turnover https://www.autodesk.com/campaigns/fusion-360/startups

or always free for home not for profit use https://www.autodesk.com/campaigns/fusion-360-for-hobbyists

I am using the startup license and recently had to drop them a note to continue doing so. Not a big deal and I could at a pinch use the hobby freebie.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47686 on: January 23, 2020, 03:22:03 am »
I lost 30 lbs* on the Coookie monster diet plan!!!

* 30 lbs. of cookies.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47687 on: January 23, 2020, 03:24:21 am »



Proof that TEA makes you happy. :-DD
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Lass die Rettungshunde frei! :-DD

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47688 on: January 23, 2020, 03:28:29 am »
I lost 30 lbs* on the Coookie monster diet plan!!!
* 30 lbs. of cookies.

I did not lose those cookies... I know exactly where each and every one of them went.  :-DD

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47690 on: January 23, 2020, 04:15:20 am »
I seem to have accidentally stumbled on some kind of weird fetish site...  :-DD
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47691 on: January 23, 2020, 05:21:27 am »
Dive Right in... The cookie dough's fine.  ;)

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47692 on: January 23, 2020, 06:17:22 am »
Re the 34461A I rate the 34401A I have as more stable.

Similarly, the 34401A I have is more stable than the 34410A.

I  wonder if you guys are as anal with your cars as you are with your DMMs, I mean, your cars have a 0 - 60mph time, do you always check on it looking for those horses that might have escaped over the years  >:D :-DD

No dyno visits for me. And the speedo...one car is 2 mph high, the other's 3 mph high, relative to a couple of GPS I checked them against. ^-^


 >:D The point I was making, is your car matching its claimed 0-60mph time, does anyone check it or are you all happy to accept the fact that its in the general zone  >:D :-DD :-DD


The 0-60 time for a car depends on many factors not least the skill of the driver.

Achieving the manufacturer's claimed time in normal driving conditions would be a bit like trying to measure uV level signals with a 3458 while in a busy commercial kitchen with Gordon Ramsey screaming at you to "get that f**king thing out of my way you c**t!".

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47693 on: January 23, 2020, 06:43:02 am »
I lost 30 lbs* on the Coookie monster diet plan!!!
* 30 lbs. of cookies.

I did not lose those cookies... I know exactly where each and every one of them went.  :-DD

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Two of 'em are right there... two of 'em are right here... three of them are back there... :o

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47694 on: January 23, 2020, 07:49:38 am »
Ok I'm a fusion 360 convert now

Why making it cloud based? Why cutting the hair marines style on a pretty girl?



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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47695 on: January 23, 2020, 08:09:38 am »
about 3 things:

1.) your PC must not be so extremly fast when the cloud make the calculation.

2.) they need your construction data , the same then a facebook,

3.) earn $$ , you have a pocket with "cloud points" and have to buy them additional.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47696 on: January 23, 2020, 08:48:53 am »
What is the difference between a cloud and ransomware?

Ransomware threatens you to shutdown your business if you are not paying. Check.
Cloud threatens you to shutdown your business if you are not paying. Check.

Ransomware: you need help, if you want to get your data extracted. Check.
Cloud: you need help, if you want to get your data extracted. Check.

If you are a cloud customer, you'll get an account manager. Check.
Same goes with ransomware. You'll have an account manager, helping you to decrypt your data. Check.

Participating in the cloud is voluntary (by choice). Check.
Participating ransomware is voluntary (by choice). Check.

No proper customer information about participating cloud services. Check
No proper customer information about participating ransomware. Check

Source (in German):
https://blog.fefe.de/?ts=a0d6e306

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47697 on: January 23, 2020, 09:01:06 am »
I see very little difference between Fusion, Microsnot, Farcebook, Google et al. They all phone home in some form or another and use/sell our data. That said very unlikely Google and Farcebook will ever charge out of the blue for anything.

Microsoft on the other hand has been trying to shove subscription/year for some time and yet 'most' of the world still uses and trusts them.

Autodesk based on past form I am still wary of but that said I can download and store all of my files locally if I want and I OWN the data and files unlike some of the other so called 'free' Cad cloud offerings and they are private to the general public unless I allow otherwise.

If by some miricle I hit the $100k USD limit and a chunk of my Engineering type Business is coming from Fusion work then there are far more expensive licenses out there per year for other software before I would bitch about Fusion's pricing.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47698 on: January 23, 2020, 10:05:01 am »
Re the 34461A I rate the 34401A I have as more stable.

Similarly, the 34401A I have is more stable than the 34410A.

I  wonder if you guys are as anal with your cars as you are with your DMMs, I mean, your cars have a 0 - 60mph time, do you always check on it looking for those horses that might have escaped over the years  >:D :-DD

No dyno visits for me. And the speedo...one car is 2 mph high, the other's 3 mph high, relative to a couple of GPS I checked them against. ^-^


 >:D The point I was making, is your car matching its claimed 0-60mph time, does anyone check it or are you all happy to accept the fact that its in the general zone  >:D :-DD :-DD

The 0-60 time for a car depends on many factors not least the skill of the driver.

Achieving the manufacturer's claimed time in normal driving conditions would be a bit like trying to measure uV level signals with a 3458 while in a busy commercial kitchen with Gordon Ramsey screaming at you to "get that f**king thing out of my way you c**t!".

I'm used to seeing 12yo people under instruction go from 0-60mph in 5s, and 0-2000ft in 45s.

When they reach 14yo, they can do it solo without an instructor.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47699 on: January 23, 2020, 10:06:57 am »
What is the difference between a cloud and ransomware?

Ransomware threatens you to shutdown your business if you are not paying. Check.
Cloud threatens you to shutdown your business if you are not paying. Check.

Ransomware: you need help, if you want to get your data extracted. Check.
Cloud: you need help, if you want to get your data extracted. Check.

If you are a cloud customer, you'll get an account manager. Check.
Same goes with ransomware. You'll have an account manager, helping you to decrypt your data. Check.

Participating in the cloud is voluntary (by choice). Check.
Participating ransomware is voluntary (by choice). Check.

No proper customer information about participating cloud services. Check
No proper customer information about participating ransomware. Check

For those that remember life before PCs, s/ransomware/timesharing/.
There are lies, damned lies, statistics - and ADC/DAC specs.
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