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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #50025 on: February 17, 2020, 04:39:59 pm »
Finally, I've found out, why the guys from UK are so shy  using discord.



https://www.zdnet.com/article/uk-police-distance-themselves-from-poster-warning-parents-to-report-kids-for-using-kali-linux/



Yeah; let's worry that your kids are showing some signs of intelligence and STEM-related competency.
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This shows just how fucking clueless law-enforcement is as a whole regarding cyber-security in general; they're just now responding the the widespread and visible threats of a decade ago. I remember similar warnings about SUSE, FFS. |O   And RedHat before that... ::)



At least the guys at Kali have a sense of humor about it all... ;)

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #50026 on: February 17, 2020, 04:56:39 pm »
Yep Self Calibration initially using my pair of 6 1/2's and depending on how stable the Fluke is and how I think it will be used look at having it Calibrated  :scared: But the costs of keeping it in Cal along with my current Cal'd meters is really  :scared:

Across the board the specs for it are only marginally if any better than the 34401A and 34461A so it is not really up to calibrating them or being calibrated by them strictly but for 4 or 5 1/2 digit gear or even in shack use well up to the task.

If the cost of keeping a pair of 6 1/2's is less than keeping the Fluke in Cal then the meters win in my case for current use.

I guess my question would be...  who the fòck can you get that is A) knowledgeable enough in this prehistoric boat-anchorage (aside from a few weirdos and greybeards, most of whom frequent this board ;)) and 2) laboratory sufficiently equipped to calibrate that chunk of Godzilla Tech for you; and ╠) how the fsck are you gonna get it to/from said laboratory...?

I love you man... and I do eagerly await your journals of this odyssey you are about to undertake...
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Thats actually a good point, remember I could only find 1 cal lab (arguably the largest in the UK, RS),  that said that they could calibrate my HP3478A, and in the end they admitted defeat and shipped it back to me untouched, leaving it to me to do what they couldn't  :-//
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #50027 on: February 17, 2020, 05:10:43 pm »
Nabbed an early B'day pressie for yours truly.
Couldn't resist......current probes are a sickness weakness.  ::)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/362914149137

 :-+ good price! Looking for one low priority. Haven't seen this one.

Will you demonstrate using it? A teardown isn't possible without damage, I think, so that would be an adequate substitute.   ;)
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #50028 on: February 17, 2020, 05:40:14 pm »
Recently got an agilent 81130A pulse generator with 2x 81132A 660MHz modules installed, fully working. Also got a Rohde & Schwarz URE 3 RMS Voltmeter. Both for free. Pretty happy with that. Can post pictures soon if any interest is there.

No question. Show pictures. From inside and outside. This is the TEA Forum Thread.   8)   :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #50029 on: February 17, 2020, 05:53:30 pm »
Blimey! Not being here for a week results in so many new posts that all one can do is skip to the end and hope there was nothing really important posted in that time.

I had a very busy work week and then spent the weekend getting my GPIB interface working and writing some shell script to interface it to my laptop. It was kind of fun working out how to talk through a serial interface to the Arduino with shell script. I can now combine the data from the Solartron 7061 with data from a set of sensors for temperature, humidity and pressure that I publish to an MQTT broker running on my NAS. The result is a data file to feed into gnuplot.

I'm very pleased with the results and they tell me that my concerns about the "flapping in the breeze" diode are completely unfounded.

Here's the full graph:


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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #50030 on: February 17, 2020, 05:53:42 pm »
Oh... dear...

I'm afraid I've gone and done something rather foolish... bought this...   :palm:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Solartron-Schlumberger-7075-7-5-digits-DMM-rare-lead-custom-plywood-case/223914561016


Does anyone have a rope they can throw down this hole I seem to be in?

There's a rather smug rabbit that keeps insisting that you can't measure anything properly with fewer than 8.5 digits   :scared:

If I close my eyes, I'm sure I can hear a whispering, "we're the voltnutssss, join usssssss"
« Last Edit: February 17, 2020, 05:55:42 pm by ThickPhilM »
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #50031 on: February 17, 2020, 05:56:10 pm »
Think that was tggzzz  :-DD (you're in good hands there)
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #50032 on: February 17, 2020, 06:07:15 pm »
Oh... dear...

I'm afraid I've gone and done something rather foolish... bought this...   :palm:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Solartron-Schlumberger-7075-7-5-digits-DMM-rare-lead-custom-plywood-case/223914561016


Does anyone have a rope they can throw down this hole I seem to be in?

There's a rather smug rabbit that keeps insisting that you can't measure anything properly with fewer than 8.5 digits   :scared:

If I close my eyes, I'm sure I can hear a whispering, "we're the voltnutssss, join usssssss"


We choose to have ropes that are insufficient to support your weight :)

If you close your eyes, you'll miss the soothing effect of the gently glowing Panaplex displays :)

And a 7075 was my gateway drug :(
« Last Edit: February 17, 2020, 06:11:59 pm by tggzzz »
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #50033 on: February 17, 2020, 06:21:55 pm »
I'm not joining the voltnuts! You can't make me go in there!
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #50034 on: February 17, 2020, 06:32:28 pm »
I'm not joining the voltnuts! You can't make me go in there!

I'm afraid that horse has bolted. And we won't need to make you go[1] in there, we'll gently entice you by dripfeeding you with comforts that can be lowered on a thin rope.

[1] if I'm honest with myself, s/go/come/
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #50035 on: February 17, 2020, 06:41:20 pm »
I'm not joining the voltnuts! You can't make me go in there!

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #50036 on: February 17, 2020, 06:48:52 pm »
I'm not joining the voltnuts! You can't make me go in there!

Join the voltnuts! We have TiN! And cookies! And sub-ppm-discussions!   :-/O   :-DMM
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #50037 on: February 17, 2020, 06:49:53 pm »
Finally, I've found out, why the guys from UK are so shy  using discord.



https://www.zdnet.com/article/uk-police-distance-themselves-from-poster-warning-parents-to-report-kids-for-using-kali-linux/

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #50038 on: February 17, 2020, 06:52:11 pm »
Oh... dear...

I'm afraid I've gone and done something rather foolish... bought this...   :palm:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Solartron-Schlumberger-7075-7-5-digits-DMM-rare-lead-custom-plywood-case/223914561016


Does anyone have a rope they can throw down this hole I seem to be in?

There's a rather smug rabbit that keeps insisting that you can't measure anything properly with fewer than 8.5 digits   :scared:

If I close my eyes, I'm sure I can hear a whispering, "we're the voltnutssss, join usssssss"


sir, you do not need a rope. you need a bucket lift; otherwise you will have to leave all your carefully acquired stuff down there and that would be a shame.  >:D
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #50039 on: February 17, 2020, 07:19:43 pm »
Yep Self Calibration initially using my pair of 6 1/2's and depending on how stable the Fluke is and how I think it will be used look at having it Calibrated  :scared: But the costs of keeping it in Cal along with my current Cal'd meters is really  :scared:

Across the board the specs for it are only marginally if any better than the 34401A and 34461A so it is not really up to calibrating them or being calibrated by them strictly but for 4 or 5 1/2 digit gear or even in shack use well up to the task.

If the cost of keeping a pair of 6 1/2's is less than keeping the Fluke in Cal then the meters win in my case for current use.

I guess my question would be...  who the fòck can you get that is A) knowledgeable enough in this prehistoric boat-anchorage (aside from a few weirdos and greybeards, most of whom frequent this board ;)) and 2) laboratory sufficiently equipped to calibrate that chunk of Godzilla Tech for you; and ╠) how the fsck are you gonna get it to/from said laboratory...?

I love you man... and I do eagerly await your journals of this odyssey you are about to undertake...
  :-+

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As it is GPIB enabled and Keysight will have a program for Calibrating it the only issue is what is the cost and do they still have someone to twirl the sticks rather than punch a button.  :-// The common manual online is 1994 issue so it isn't that old by Cal gear standards. I do own a Road case that it will fit in but as the risk of shaking a card or having some dick delivery driver dropping it would be a road trip pre and post.

or more likely

in the 335 pages of proper manual http://assets.fluke.com/manuals/5100B___imeng0100.pdf it is all there for DIY Cal and adjustment  . In the gear needed they do say you NEED a Fluke 5700A Calibrator to calibrate this one but as I won't be buying one of those I will have to be happy making do using the other discrete gear I own.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #50040 on: February 17, 2020, 07:21:02 pm »
One thing that does tickle my fancy, is trying to make a Weston cell.

Need to brush up on my chemistry...
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #50041 on: February 17, 2020, 07:32:30 pm »
Oh... dear...

I'm afraid I've gone and done something rather foolish... bought this...   :palm:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Solartron-Schlumberger-7075-7-5-digits-DMM-rare-lead-custom-plywood-case/223914561016


Does anyone have a rope they can throw down this hole I seem to be in?

There's a rather smug rabbit that keeps insisting that you can't measure anything properly with fewer than 8.5 digits   :scared:

If I close my eyes, I'm sure I can hear a whispering, "we're the voltnutssss, join usssssss"


Throw DOWN to you?!?  Did you forget where you are and who you're talking to?  We're all at the bottom with lassos trying to rope you and pull you further in!   :-DD

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #50042 on: February 17, 2020, 07:36:34 pm »
One thing that does tickle my fancy, is trying to make a Weston cell.

Need to brush up on my chemistry...


If the box in the picture of the 7075 is included in the deal then you'll already have a dual Weston cell.

That's a serious bargain there for £95! Great find!
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #50043 on: February 17, 2020, 07:41:10 pm »
I guess my question would be...  who the fòck can you get that is A) knowledgeable enough in this prehistoric boat-anchorage (aside from a few weirdos and greybeards, most of whom frequent this board ;)) and 2) laboratory sufficiently equipped to calibrate that chunk of Godzilla Tech for you; and ╠) how the fsck are you gonna get it to/from said laboratory...?

I love you man... and I do eagerly await your journals of this odyssey you are about to undertake...
  :-+

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As it is GPIB enabled and Keysight will have a program for Calibrating it the only issue is what is the cost and do they still have someone to twirl the sticks rather than punch a button.  :-// The common manual online is 1994 issue so it isn't that old by Cal gear standards. I do own a Road case that it will fit in but as the risk of shaking a card or having some dick delivery driver dropping it would be a road trip pre and post.

or more likely

in the 335 pages of proper manual http://assets.fluke.com/manuals/5100B___imeng0100.pdf it is all there for DIY Cal and adjustment  . In the gear needed they do say you NEED a Fluke 5700A Calibrator to calibrate this one but as I won't be buying one of those I will have to be happy making do using the other discrete gear I own.

So TL/DR is you're planning to find someone in Oz that has a in-cal 5700A and go a-callin' with a bottle of good whiskey in hand...?

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #50044 on: February 17, 2020, 07:42:25 pm »
One thing that does tickle my fancy, is trying to make a Weston cell.

Need to brush up on my chemistry...


If the box in the picture of the 7075 is included in the deal then you'll already have a dual Weston cell.

That's a serious bargain there for £95! Great find!

Haha, the item description clearly states only the unit and test lead are included, but yeah the pic with the Weston cell in it was what got me to pondering that one.

It seems that I'm buying it from one of our very own, namely tggzzz, so at least I know it's from a reliable seller, and wont have a wrecking ball in the parcel   :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #50045 on: February 17, 2020, 07:55:19 pm »
Ah, that explains the dual Weston cell!
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #50046 on: February 17, 2020, 08:02:15 pm »
I'm not joining the voltnuts! You can't make me go in there!

Join the voltnuts! We have TiN! And cookies! And sub-ppm-discussions!   :-/O   :-DMM

Help ! Rescue me ! I dont want my nuts volted !  >:D. Too late. The 3458A says 1.0000000000027.
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #50047 on: February 17, 2020, 08:10:34 pm »
Time for the traditional bitching and moaning how the product isn't as promised and you want your money back. Don't hold back just because it's someone we know.  >:D
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #50048 on: February 17, 2020, 08:17:06 pm »
Oh... dear...

I'm afraid I've gone and done something rather foolish... bought this...   :palm:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Solartron-Schlumberger-7075-7-5-digits-DMM-rare-lead-custom-plywood-case/223914561016


Does anyone have a rope they can throw down this hole I seem to be in?

There's a rather smug rabbit that keeps insisting that you can't measure anything properly with fewer than 8.5 digits   :scared:

If I close my eyes, I'm sure I can hear a whispering, "we're the voltnutssss, join usssssss"

Well seeing as you can hear that rabbit whispering that, why the hell did you only get 7.5 digits this time?  :wtf: If you'd gone for 8.5 digit DMM you'd have shut him up  :-DD :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #50049 on: February 17, 2020, 08:24:03 pm »
One thing that does tickle my fancy, is trying to make a Weston cell.

Need to brush up on my chemistry...


First find a supplier of Hg, Hg2SO4, CdSO4.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2020, 08:26:53 pm by tggzzz »
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