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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65425 on: August 03, 2020, 11:29:48 pm »
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65426 on: August 03, 2020, 11:41:41 pm »
Question for all of you. What common object, other than a ruler, would one use for scale in a photograph that is universal? Yeah, a ruler works but it doesn't have that same visceral feel that, say, a box of matches does.

For the Brits, a standard box of matches would work, but the "standard box of matches" varies in size around the world. A packet of Gitanes is the same size the world over but most people don't have a pack of French Cancer Sticks to hand. A bunch of keys? Pretty universal but you don't really want to embed the key profile of your front door key in a photo for publication. I've been over a few other things in my mind and discounted all of them as not universal enough. Pencil? The ubiquitous Bic? Too long and thin. Cups and cutlery are too variable in size.

I finally hit on a standard pack of playing cards. Right kind of scale, the same size all over the world, something that fits in the hand.

So, can anyone else think of a common household object that is truly universal worldwide, and that fits the bill better than a pack of cards? Thoughts? Something obvious that I've missed?
- Giro card or similar magnet/chip combination card /only minuscule size differences possible due to international usage in ATMs)

- 4mm plug

- razor blade

- 3.5" disk

- CD case

 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65427 on: August 03, 2020, 11:42:51 pm »
Received a pair of Tek P6008 probes. These were the probes that would have come in the box with the Type 82 plugin when it was new. Unfortunately, one of them won't compensate right.  :-- Downloaded the manual to try to see if this is something that can be repaired. In either case, I may be demanding a partial refund from the seller.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65428 on: August 03, 2020, 11:46:20 pm »
Received a pair of Tek P6008 probes. These were the probes that would have come in the box with the Type 82 plugin when it was new. Unfortunately, one of them won't compensate right.  :-- Downloaded the manual to try to see if this is something that can be repaired. In either case, I may be demanding a partial refund from the seller.

Did you try the probe on both channels?
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65429 on: August 03, 2020, 11:50:55 pm »
Received a pair of Tek P6008 probes. These were the probes that would have come in the box with the Type 82 plugin when it was new. Unfortunately, one of them won't compensate right.  :-- Downloaded the manual to try to see if this is something that can be repaired. In either case, I may be demanding a partial refund from the seller.

Did you try the probe on both channels?

Yep--the problem travels with the probe.
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65430 on: August 03, 2020, 11:54:50 pm »
Oh goodie....fun times tomorrow.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65431 on: August 04, 2020, 12:44:18 am »
Question for all of you. What common object, other than a ruler, would one use for scale in a photograph that is universal? Yeah, a ruler works but it doesn't have that same visceral feel that, say, a box of matches does.

For the Brits, a standard box of matches would work, but the "standard box of matches" varies in size around the world. A packet of Gitanes is the same size the world over but most people don't have a pack of French Cancer Sticks to hand. A bunch of keys? Pretty universal but you don't really want to embed the key profile of your front door key in a photo for publication. I've been over a few other things in my mind and discounted all of them as not universal enough. Pencil? The ubiquitous Bic? Too long and thin. Cups and cutlery are too variable in size.

I finally hit on a standard pack of playing cards. Right kind of scale, the same size all over the world, something that fits in the hand.

So, can anyone else think of a common household object that is truly universal worldwide, and that fits the bill better than a pack of cards? Thoughts? Something obvious that I've missed?
- Giro card or similar magnet/chip combination card /only minuscule size differences possible due to international usage in ATMs)

- 4mm plug

- razor blade

- 3.5" disk

- CD case


All good ideas
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65432 on: August 04, 2020, 01:03:46 am »
Question for all of you. What common object, other than a ruler, would one use for scale in a photograph that is universal? Yeah, a ruler works but it doesn't have that same visceral feel that, say, a box of matches does.

For the Brits, a standard box of matches would work, but the "standard box of matches" varies in size around the world. A packet of Gitanes is the same size the world over but most people don't have a pack of French Cancer Sticks to hand. A bunch of keys? Pretty universal but you don't really want to embed the key profile of your front door key in a photo for publication. I've been over a few other things in my mind and discounted all of them as not universal enough. Pencil? The ubiquitous Bic? Too long and thin. Cups and cutlery are too variable in size.

I finally hit on a standard pack of playing cards. Right kind of scale, the same size all over the world, something that fits in the hand.

So, can anyone else think of a common household object that is truly universal worldwide, and that fits the bill better than a pack of cards? Thoughts? Something obvious that I've missed?
- Giro card or similar magnet/chip combination card /only minuscule size differences possible due to international usage in ATMs)

- 4mm plug

- razor blade

- 3.5" disk

- CD case

3.5" disk? What's one of those grandpappy?  :)
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65433 on: August 04, 2020, 01:05:09 am »
3.5" disk? What's one of those grandpappy?  :)
I'll raise you a 5" one !  :P
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65434 on: August 04, 2020, 01:06:58 am »
I've probably got an 8" floppy tucked away somewhere for old time's sake, rather like I have a few 80 col. cards.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65435 on: August 04, 2020, 01:15:02 am »
Question for all of you. What common object, other than a ruler, would one use for scale in a photograph that is universal? Yeah, a ruler works but it doesn't have that same visceral feel that, say, a box of matches does.

For the Brits, a standard box of matches would work, but the "standard box of matches" varies in size around the world. A packet of Gitanes is the same size the world over but most people don't have a pack of French Cancer Sticks to hand. A bunch of keys? Pretty universal but you don't really want to embed the key profile of your front door key in a photo for publication. I've been over a few other things in my mind and discounted all of them as not universal enough. Pencil? The ubiquitous Bic? Too long and thin. Cups and cutlery are too variable in size.

I finally hit on a standard pack of playing cards. Right kind of scale, the same size all over the world, something that fits in the hand.

So, can anyone else think of a common household object that is truly universal worldwide, and that fits the bill better than a pack of cards? Thoughts? Something obvious that I've missed?
- Giro card or similar magnet/chip combination card /only minuscule size differences possible due to international usage in ATMs)

- 4mm plug

- razor blade

- 3.5" disk

- CD case


All good ideas

how 'bout a TI35?

they must have sold billions of them world wide.  (every schoolboy had and lost a couple.)

around here you can't open a drawer, broom closet, or old shoe box without finding at least one. 

in fact, they keep dropping into every picture despite my attempts to crop them out. 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65436 on: August 04, 2020, 01:20:02 am »
I've probably got an 8" floppy tucked away somewhere for old time's sake, rather like I have a few 80 col. cards.
At your/our age now you're just showing off !  :P
Anyways I call BS.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65437 on: August 04, 2020, 01:20:36 am »
I've probably got an 8" floppy tucked away somewhere for old time's sake, rather like I have a few 80 col. cards.

I still have mine from university. I learned PDP-11 assembly and that's where my programs are!

 :-DD

Can't get to them any longer but I have the printouts.  :-+
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65438 on: August 04, 2020, 02:57:42 am »
Don't know what is worst:

1) Stickers
2) Permanet Marker
3) Nicotine layer
4) White plastic going yellowish
5) Scratches on display

First check is always is something is rattling inside, then I open the puppy up.

Ohh I need to buy something now...

6) Stickers on the display :scared:
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65439 on: August 04, 2020, 02:58:19 am »
Just bought a 5316A as well. I noticed it had the channel C 1.3GHz option installed. They usually ship with an OCXO when one of them is in. Worth a gamble. Same seller as the 3478A  :scared:.

Need a totalising counter for something as well.

Good catch, bd. Mine doesn't have those options.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65440 on: August 04, 2020, 03:11:23 am »
[...] Dumbfuckistan units.  :-DD

OK, is this really necessary?  ::)

...not saying Imperial units are good mind you. I like my powers of 10.  >:D

He's just flexing his recently acquired metricness. :-DD

Actually it's more the opposite... I'm a nerd. I've been thinking in metric and converting to imperial for decades; everything I work with (computers are still perversely a mix but cars and most everything else uses metric fasteners and are designed in metric) and even my toys (all my whirry little flying things and RC cars and most of my tools) are metric down to the fasteners...

Interesting. I don't automatically convert either way. Rather, I've been using both completely dependent on context. For example, temperatures make sense to me in Fahrenheit in the context of the weather (or air in a room), and they likewise make sense to me in Celsius in the context of tech things such as CPU/GPU operating temps. Translate the units between contexts and I don't have a sense for how hot they are.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65441 on: August 04, 2020, 03:14:28 am »
how 'bout a TI35?

they must have sold billions of them world wide.  (every schoolboy had and lost a couple.) around here you can't open a drawer, broom closet, or old shoe box without finding at least one. 

They actually only ever sold 12 of them; the rest reproduced in drawers and closets. Larval form usually appears as 2N2222A transistors and LR44 button cells.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65442 on: August 04, 2020, 03:16:56 am »
Seeing this reply



followed by this one

Sorry a mistake - 3478A.

Made me think for a moment that you had a negative 3478A or something. ;D
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« Reply #65443 on: August 04, 2020, 03:19:19 am »
Keeping it interesting while it simmers. If it makes it through today it's a done deal. Next up on the plate is the Type 3A6 Vertical. It has multiple boo-boo's.  ::)



For other visual interest, how about scope music?
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« Reply #65444 on: August 04, 2020, 03:24:09 am »
[...] Dumbfuckistan units.  :-DD

OK, is this really necessary?  ::)

...not saying Imperial units are good mind you. I like my powers of 10.  >:D

He's just flexing his recently acquired metricness. :-DD

Actually it's more the opposite... I'm a nerd. I've been thinking in metric and converting to imperial for decades; everything I work with (computers are still perversely a mix but cars and most everything else uses metric fasteners and are designed in metric) and even my toys (all my whirry little flying things and RC cars and most of my tools) are metric down to the fasteners...

Interesting. I don't automatically convert either way. Rather, I've been using both completely dependent on context. For example, temperatures make sense to me in Fahrenheit in the context of the weather (or air in a room), and they likewise make sense to me in Celsius in the context of tech things such as CPU/GPU operating temps. Translate the units between contexts and I don't have a sense for how hot they are.

Yeah, I guess that's true for me too now that you describe it that way; mostly I think metric in terms of fasteners and small measures. Miles & kliks I use interchangeably based on context, same with small weights of oz/lbs vs gram/kg. Tho I do STILL mostly think in degrees DFU and convert to C. And I still think almost exclusively in ft/lbs, in/oz & PSI for those measures. No idea why that didn't become automatic. :-// Fuck... guess I'm NOT as metric as I though I was. |O

Yet MORE reason the DFU must die!!!  :-DD

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65445 on: August 04, 2020, 03:24:35 am »
[...] Dumbfuckistan units.  :-DD

OK, is this really necessary?  ::)

...not saying Imperial units are good mind you. I like my powers of 10.  >:D

He's just flexing his recently acquired metricness. :-DD

Actually it's more the opposite... I'm a nerd. I've been thinking in metric and converting to imperial for decades; everything I work with (computers are still perversely a mix but cars and most everything else uses metric fasteners and are designed in metric) and even my toys (all my whirry little flying things and RC cars and most of my tools) are metric down to the fasteners...

Interesting. I don't automatically convert either way. Rather, I've been using both completely dependent on context. For example, temperatures make sense to me in Fahrenheit in the context of the weather (or air in a room), and they likewise make sense to me in Celsius in the context of tech things such as CPU/GPU operating temps. Translate the units between contexts and I don't have a sense for how hot they are.
Rough and ready conversion:
F = (C x 2) + 30
C = (F - 30)/2

Eg the 38C bd139 posted a few days back 76 + 30  ~= 106F
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65446 on: August 04, 2020, 03:26:13 am »
Let me just drop a reminder of my recent success using IPA and one of those melamine sponges - worked a treat.

Already done exactly that :)



I'll deep clean it on the RIFA replacement cycle.

That's a relief! Sometimes those markers can soak in, making the job a lot more troublesome.
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« Reply #65447 on: August 04, 2020, 03:46:57 am »
3.5" disk? What's one of those grandpappy?  :)

Isn't it funny how outdated tech is still used as iconography for modern tech? For example, the 3.5" floppy disk on the save button, the classic telephone handset (or the entire phone) on the phone app and on/off-hook button.

I remember when someone's young daughter found a 3.5" floppy and said, "Daddy, look. It's a big save button!"
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65448 on: August 04, 2020, 04:12:20 am »
3.5" disk? What's one of those grandpappy?  :)

Isn't it funny how outdated tech is still used as iconography for modern tech? For example, the 3.5" floppy disk on the save button, the classic telephone handset (or the entire phone) on the phone app and on/off-hook button.

I remember when someone's young daughter found a 3.5" floppy and said, "Daddy, look. It's a big save button!"

we called the 3,5 a discette and 5,25 a floppy because of its flex

you alsohad those 12” once black and rond andthey produce music  :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #65449 on: August 04, 2020, 04:45:16 am »
you alsohad those 12” once black and rond andthey produce music  :-DD

Those are back! (And compact cassettes seem to be trying to make a revival.)
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