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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #70625 on: September 28, 2020, 06:18:11 pm »
Yeah it's killing me but I genuinely don't need it. Need to get used to running off trash hardware if I want to retire  :-DD
Prices are going up so you're not spending money, you're saving for your retirement. You get to play with a 34401A and make some sweet dough when you grow tired of it. It's more sensible than leaving your cash to rot in a bank account. I'll bet that's not even 6.5 digits either.  ;D
 

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« Reply #70626 on: September 28, 2020, 06:19:41 pm »

Er, yeah, I just found that out, Bristol, Bristol seems just as silly to me as New York, New York. It used to be part of Avon and then for some stupid reason, possibly to provide some sort of rigging of votes for electoral advantage, they did away with the county of Avon and split it up.

No, it's not silly. Proper form is New York City, New York State, USA.

For some reason people just can't seem to wrap their heads around the fact that it's a city (NYC) with in a state (NY) with the additional fact that the Capital of New York State is Albany, not NYC.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #70627 on: September 28, 2020, 06:20:29 pm »
Paypal wants me to input my address (again). My address is
number, road
town
Bristol
postcode
but Bristol is not an option in the "counties" selection box.

Any suggestions?

Is Avon in there? Much like Middlesex I still have to use it regularly even though it doesn't exist now.

Yes, Avon is there, but it won't be shown on other documents. Avon, like Middlesex, hasn't existed for decades.

OTOH I live in North Somerset - and that isn't there either!
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #70628 on: September 28, 2020, 06:20:45 pm »
Yeah it's killing me but I genuinely don't need it. Need to get used to running off trash hardware if I want to retire  :-DD
Prices are going up so you're not spending money, you're saving for your retirement. You get to play with a 34401A and make some sweet dough when you grow tired of it. It's more sensible than leaving your cash to rot in a bank account. I'll bet that's not even 6.5 digits either.  ;D

Yeah it'll make a return easily but there's risk involved still of course. If it was £100 cheaper it'd be gone already  :-DD
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #70629 on: September 28, 2020, 06:26:37 pm »
Yeah it'll make a return easily but there's risk involved still of course. If it was £100 cheaper it'd be gone already  :-DD
Without some risk investing is no use. Risks mean rewards. The Venn diagram of people who won't take risks and those who retire early shows very little overlap. Not buying that 34401A means moving away from your retirement plans. Do it for your future.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #70630 on: September 28, 2020, 06:28:33 pm »
Quote from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bristol
Bristol (/ˈbrɪstəl/ (About this soundlisten)) is a major city and county[4] in South West England with a population of 463,400.[5] The wider district has the 10th-largest population in England.[6] The urban area population of 724,000 is the 8th-largest in the UK.[2] The city lies between Gloucestershire to the north and Somerset to the south. South Wales lies across the Severn estuary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol

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That's a bit misleading as Bristol is a "unitary authority" (as are a number of other places) not strictly a County per se. For instance, in London the London Borough of Hillingdon is mostly in the ceremonial county of Middlesex, as is Enfield but they all fall under the purview of the London Assembly, before that the Greater London Council and before that the London County Council (despite the fact there has never been a County of London per se). It's all down to successive governments messing about with the old traditional administrative structure of town council => county council => central government. The administrative boundaries have shifted, sometimes ignoring the traditional county boundaries.

The actual official structure of postal addresses in the UK, as dictated by the Post Office as was, is:

building name or number
THOROUGHFARE
dependent thoroughfare (where required)
locality (where required)
dependant locality (where required)
POSTTOWN POSTCODE

The county doesn't need to be written, although many people do out of tradition or habit. All the stuff in capitals is always there, the building name or number may or may not be required depending on the postcode, the dependent thoroughfare and locality are optional as they are implied by the postcode. Large users  (e.g. the BBC) get their own postcode and POSTTOWN POSTCODE is all that's required to get to them.

So, the format of my official postal address is:

666 Cerebus' Road
LONDON E7 XXX

and that's enough to get stuff through my front door.

My bet is that tggzzz's somewhat out of town place is the kind that would get an official address that uses a locality like:

1 Short Street
Sleepy Hamlet
BRISTOL BS99 1AB
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #70631 on: September 28, 2020, 06:30:10 pm »
Yeah it'll make a return easily but there's risk involved still of course. If it was £100 cheaper it'd be gone already  :-DD
Without some risk investing is no use. Risks mean rewards. The Venn diagram of people who won't take risks and those who retire early show very little overlap. Not buying that 34401A means moving away from your retirement plans. Do it for your future.

Hahaha.

I would but three things:

1. Screen has a gash out of it and the terminals are slightly worn. The screen plastics are no longer in stock.
2. It's dirty and last cal is 2005 which suggests it's been in private hands for a long time (old cal).
3. Cal is another £100 on top.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #70632 on: September 28, 2020, 06:30:50 pm »
Quote from: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bristol
Bristol (/ˈbrɪstəl/ (About this soundlisten)) is a major city and county[4] in South West England with a population of 463,400.[5] The wider district has the 10th-largest population in England.[6] The urban area population of 724,000 is the 8th-largest in the UK.[2] The city lies between Gloucestershire to the north and Somerset to the south. South Wales lies across the Severn estuary.

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True. But neither has anything to do with a postal address!

I know of some houses that are on a road without a name, e.g. from the definitive Royal Mail website
  Downs Barn Lodge, 
  Frampton Mansell,
  Stroud
  GL6 8HX
and
  The Bungalow
  Frampton Mansell
  Stroud
  GL6 8HX

Note that Frampton Mansell is a village a mile away, Stroud a town (where bd will soon be living  >:D ), and the county isn't mentioned!
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #70633 on: September 28, 2020, 06:33:43 pm »
So, the format of my official postal address is:

666 Cerebus' Road
LONDON E7 XXX

and that's enough to get stuff through my front door.

My bet is that tggzzz's somewhat out of town place is the kind that would get an official address that uses a locality like:

1 Short Street
Sleepy Hamlet
BRISTOL BS99 1AB

Pretty much, except the minimum is probably "1, BS99 1AB"
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #70634 on: September 28, 2020, 06:36:20 pm »
That's it. House number+postcode -or- House name+postcode. The PAF database has that as the minimum search terms for deterministic addressing.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #70635 on: September 28, 2020, 06:55:35 pm »
@tggzzz: What does the postal service website resolve your address to in the address verifier?

I'll bet you a  :-+ that's also what fleaBay uses; it's what they use over here.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #70636 on: September 28, 2020, 06:55:51 pm »
So, the format of my official postal address is:

666 Cerebus' Road
LONDON E7 XXX

and that's enough to get stuff through my front door.

My bet is that tggzzz's somewhat out of town place is the kind that would get an official address that uses a locality like:

1 Short Street
Sleepy Hamlet
BRISTOL BS99 1AB

Pretty much, except the minimum is probably "1, BS99 1AB"

Indeed it is, but the Posties that actually go out on the rounds keep resisting the scanner implants, and hence need the odd street name or two. Also they object to the proposed location of the PAF database update port. They seem to feel that "bend over and be updated" is a bit infra-dig.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #70637 on: September 28, 2020, 07:14:21 pm »
Paypal wants me to input my address (again). My address is
number, road
town
Bristol
postcode
but Bristol is not an option in the "counties" selection box.

Any suggestions?

Try "Bielefeld" instead.   :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #70638 on: September 28, 2020, 07:40:59 pm »
@tggzzz: What does the postal service website resolve your address to in the address verifier?

I'll bet you a  :-+ that's also what fleaBay uses; it's what they use over here.

This is paypal, not fleabay.

All fill-in-the-address-from-the-postcode web forms come up with
 123, My Road
 My Town of 6500 People
 Bristol
 BS99 9AY
but not paypal.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #70639 on: September 28, 2020, 07:50:16 pm »
Dang bought another HP supply  :-DD.



It's 115V but is 230v compatible.

That's sort of the big brother to my 6206B, what with more current capacity and, as a consequence, current limiting. The crowbar was optional on mine; here it is included.

To convert, most of them have a set of four pads under the xfmr bridged like so:
Code: [Select]
O--O   O--O
...for Edison mains.   You want it to be changed into:
Code: [Select]
O  O--O  O
...to play well with grown-up electricity.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #70640 on: September 28, 2020, 07:55:38 pm »
Paypal wants me to input my address (again). My address is
number, road
town
Bristol
postcode
but Bristol is not an option in the "counties" selection box.

Any suggestions?

Try "Bielefeld" instead.   :-DD

that is almost as good as Sagittarius A.
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #70641 on: September 28, 2020, 08:07:02 pm »
Dang bought another HP supply  :-DD.



It's 115V but is 230v compatible.

That's sort of the big brother to my 6206B, what with more current capacity and, as a consequence, current limiting. The crowbar was optional on mine; here it is included.

To convert, most of them have a set of four pads under the xfmr bridged like so:
Code: [Select]
O--O   O--O
...for Edison mains.   You want it to be changed into:
Code: [Select]
O  O--O  O
...to play well with grown-up electricity.

Yeah spot on. I had one a few years ago that had some "interesting" problems with it:



Fixed



The brown wire was an "attempt" to make the neon work on the front panel but it didn't  :palm:


Edit: found a picture of the rather nasty guts

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #70642 on: September 28, 2020, 08:07:26 pm »
Paypal wants me to input my address (again). My address is
number, road
town
Bristol
postcode
but Bristol is not an option in the "counties" selection box.

Any suggestions?

Try "Bielefeld" instead.   :-DD

That would be relatively easy: it is in a different country so I would have to open a different account :)

Maybe BAOR had something to do with the conspiracy? (BAOR = British Army On the Rhine)
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #70643 on: September 28, 2020, 08:56:50 pm »
Can anyone tell me why I should buy an HP 651B when I have a perfectly good SDG1032X other than it's cool? Need some use cases :-DD

 
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« Reply #70644 on: September 28, 2020, 09:19:59 pm »
Can anyone tell me why I should buy an HP 651B when I have a perfectly good SDG1032X other than it's cool? Need some use cases :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #70645 on: September 28, 2020, 09:20:46 pm »
 :-DD A for effort.

Really it appears to be used for testing frequency response of circuits and equipment more than anything so I can't really justify buying it as I don't need to do that.
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #70646 on: September 28, 2020, 09:23:53 pm »
Can anyone tell me why I should buy an HP 651B when I have a perfectly good SDG1032X other than it's cool? Need some use cases :-DD

Use cases? Here?!?    :-DD

Ok, here are some suggestions:

- proud member of the TEA bunch
- annoying Wolfgang
- if it is cheap, you can sell it later for more money
- do a teardown and show us the pictures
- you can throw it at somebody
>:D

Edit: adding some inspiration:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/hp-651b-test-oscillator-teardown-and-repair/
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #70647 on: September 28, 2020, 09:33:00 pm »
use the oscillator to realign the warp coils while crawling through the Jeffrey's tube ?
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #70648 on: September 28, 2020, 09:45:55 pm »
Also, remember that the 651B is specced equipment for aligning the injector matrix on your Turbo Encabulator. And you need two for any OBD-IIb or later vehicle! You'll have to pay the dealership thousands to do that alignment for you at emissions-inspection time; really, it's just like money in the bank.  >:D

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #70649 on: September 28, 2020, 10:01:49 pm »
Greetings! Wrapping up quarterly planning at work... I'll be back! ::)
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