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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #25650 on: February 18, 2019, 01:05:13 pm »
Hi,

Where you able to find a solution to the "Parallel BCD Interface" problem? I have been searching the planet, but so far have found anyone alive who seems to have an idea on how to solve the problem. It seems that Parallel BCD is so old that everyone that knew about it is dead.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #25651 on: February 18, 2019, 01:23:06 pm »
Where you able to find a solution to the "Parallel BCD Interface" problem? I have been searching the planet, but so far have found anyone alive who seems to have an idea on how to solve the problem. It seems that Parallel BCD is so old that everyone that knew about it is dead.

Er, what parallel BCD problem? A link would be helpful.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #25652 on: February 18, 2019, 01:25:09 pm »
Just get a decent ISP that doesn't block all the torrent sites (Zen here) and torrent the damn thing.
Yup. Then you'll probably get watchable coies of your video too, instead of cam BS in someone's living room with every truck going by and siblings fighting in the background.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #25653 on: February 18, 2019, 01:44:29 pm »
In Other News... The ToolDwagon needs TOOL ADVICE!

   Okay... this is an area where I have no experience. I have lots of experience with traditional body work, and I have an idea about how these should work... but zero practical knowledge. Does anybody here know anything about paintless dent repair tools? Do these little lever and hot-glue gadgets actually work? What first-time pitfalls top avoid?

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Eastwood sells a kit. I'm sure you're familiar with them. Generally sell good stuff.

https://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-paintless-dent-removal-kit.html
Yeah, that's my problem. I have pretty much THAT level of knowledge about the art, and that is really what it appears to be: an art. Like panel beating and English Wheel; it's 20% tools and 80% technique.

I'm trying to get a little insight from folks who've used the tools but aren't just trying to sell me THEIR tools, if you know what I mean. Looks like time for another depth-first search on yoobToob...  :palm:

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #25654 on: February 18, 2019, 01:57:59 pm »
This was the Muppets protecting their bottom line backed by our idiots in charge :horse:

https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/internet-providers-ordered-to-block-15-torrent-streaming-sites-by-federal-court-20180618-p4zm6b.html

https://torrentfreak.com/australian-court-orders-isps-to-block-181-pirate-domains-including-subtitle-sites-181220/

Jeezus H. Christ A-hoppin' on a pogo stick... where the fuck did they get that "calculated at $50/domain" BS? I hope the ISPs document every fucking minute spent sysadmin-ing those blocks for 3 years and bill the judges PERSONALLY.

Fucking ignorant assholes making law about shit they know NOTHING about.  :palm:

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #25655 on: February 18, 2019, 02:29:04 pm »
This was the Muppets protecting their bottom line backed by our idiots in charge :horse:

https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/internet-providers-ordered-to-block-15-torrent-streaming-sites-by-federal-court-20180618-p4zm6b.html

https://torrentfreak.com/australian-court-orders-isps-to-block-181-pirate-domains-including-subtitle-sites-181220/

Jeezus H. Christ A-hoppin' on a pogo stick... where the fuck did they get that "calculated at $50/domain" BS? I hope the ISPs document every fucking minute spent sysadmin-ing those blocks for 3 years and bill the judges PERSONALLY.

Fucking ignorant assholes making law about shit they know NOTHING about.  :palm:

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Geez......3 posts in a row of bitching and moaning.  :rant:  Go have more coffee then come back.  :palm:

And knock it off or I'll have Batman bitch slip you.  :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #25656 on: February 18, 2019, 02:46:53 pm »
 :-DD

More bitching here. Just sent an order off to JLCPCB and realised I fucked up two TQFP pins. This is only a prototype run so not end of world but do I bodge it with kynar when it turns up or order another batch?
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #25657 on: February 18, 2019, 02:51:30 pm »
Capacitance/Inductance in your leads and a GigOhm input on the Keithley I would hazard a guess rather than an issue with the 5440A. There may also be some components after the enable on the 5440A?

Turn off any Switchmode Supplies (in particular), Wallwarts, LED lights and or anything else possibly noisy and check again.
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I am monitoring the 0.100mV range and unplugged and moved the laptop I am typing on and it made a big difference. I am silly enough to forget my setup in the breakfast nook is not ideal for these low level measurements...I think I scored a winner but I will put this setup in the shop room tomorrow with proper test leads and confirm. No overhead noise...D'OH! :palm:

edit** even turning these lights out was noticable...damnit Chris, get it together ...lol

What i'd do if i were you, dig a big hole and build an underground lab with a faraday cage in the walls.  :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #25658 on: February 18, 2019, 02:52:03 pm »
:-DD

More bitching here. Just sent an order off to JLCPCB and realised I fucked up two TQFP pins. This is only a prototype run so not end of world but do I bodge it with kynar when it turns up or order another batch?

Only you can make that choice. Bodges drive our leader Dave crazy but they don't bother me all that much. I've been known to bodge things here and there.  ;D
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #25659 on: February 18, 2019, 03:08:32 pm »
:-DD

More bitching here. Just sent an order off to JLCPCB and realised I fucked up two TQFP pins. This is only a prototype run so not end of world but do I bodge it with kynar when it turns up or order another batch?

Can you actually solder that bodge? A similar error on adjacent pins of a TI QFN48 (7x7mm) had me respin a board costing over AU$1000 for a personal project, at a time when I didn't really have that to spare. My bodge abilities are barely enough to get a bodge wire onto a pin that small to be able to probe it, and that takes me a few minutes for the many attempts.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #25660 on: February 18, 2019, 03:17:06 pm »
Yeah its a pin swap and theres enough track to solder fortunately. This is only the digital front end prototype for something and is being used while I dev the analogue side of it. It was 1/3 of the price spinning some boards and buying SMD parts than buying the parts as TH (2019 is already weird)
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #25661 on: February 18, 2019, 05:57:12 pm »
This was the Muppets protecting their bottom line backed by our idiots in charge :horse:

https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/internet-providers-ordered-to-block-15-torrent-streaming-sites-by-federal-court-20180618-p4zm6b.html

https://torrentfreak.com/australian-court-orders-isps-to-block-181-pirate-domains-including-subtitle-sites-181220/

Jeezus H. Christ A-hoppin' on a pogo stick... where the fuck did they get that "calculated at $50/domain" BS? I hope the ISPs document every fucking minute spent sysadmin-ing those blocks for 3 years and bill the judges PERSONALLY.

Fucking ignorant assholes making law about shit they know NOTHING about.  :palm:

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Geez......3 posts in a row of bitching and moaning.  :rant:  Go have more coffee then come back.  :palm:

And knock it off or I'll have Batman bitch slip you.  :-DD

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I mean yeah; I was bitching pretty loudly about that ignorant court decision... but otherwise I thought I was keeping it pretty cheerful.  :P

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #25662 on: February 18, 2019, 06:09:17 pm »
:-DD

More bitching here. Just sent an order off to JLCPCB and realised I fucked up two TQFP pins. This is only a prototype run so not end of world but do I bodge it with kynar when it turns up or order another batch?
Only you can make that choice. Bodges drive our leader Dave crazy but they don't bother me all that much. I've been known to bodge things here and there.  ;D

Lets ask the electrons... Nope, they don't ugly from pretty, they only know they're lazy and will go where you put the path of least resistance. As long as you aren't part of that path, I see no problem with a bodge wire here and there.  :-+

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #25663 on: February 18, 2019, 06:23:52 pm »

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #25664 on: February 18, 2019, 06:25:50 pm »
All the trend charts and histograms posted recently by Invert have inspired me to finally take a look at the EasyDMM software that came with the Siglent SDM3055. First result, just playing around. The voltage source is a AD584-M with a fully charged battery and on backup power. Left to warm up for 1 hour before starting measurements. The SDM3055 was also left to warm up for 1 hour before measuring.

I just let it run and the trend appears to be upward slightly. The software seems to be quite detailed and extensive and I haven't even scratched the surface. But in reality I wouldn't know what to do with it anyway.  :-// :-DD


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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #25665 on: February 18, 2019, 06:36:10 pm »
Med, have a play with Histogram and Trend too, they can both be displayed on the LCD.
IIRC they're in the Display menu.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #25666 on: February 18, 2019, 06:50:20 pm »
In Other News... The ToolDwagon needs TOOL ADVICE!



Okay... this is an area where I have no experience. I have lots of experience with traditional body work, and I have an idea about how these should work... but zero practical knowledge. Does anybody here know anything about paintless dent repair tools? Do these little lever and hot-glue gadgets actually work? What first-time pitfalls top avoid?

I've done some paintless dent repair (PDR), but haven't used those glue-on pullers. My dents were fortunately reachable from behind. I've seen some have issues with adhesion and will need to glue the head on multiple times. Of course, the marketing material is showing a theoretical result. You'll still have to work on the metal around the dent to (1) get any ripples out, especially around the perimeter of the dent, and (2) prevent gas canning.

Working from behind the dent, I use whatever is an appropriate size/shape object for each stage of repair (though you can get all sorts of "proper" PDR tools for pushing out dents) and then stabilize and refine the area with a tap down tool. PDR truly is an art and I don't have the level of experience required to quickly get good results. It's quite time consuming. Overworking the metal can be an issue too, though I haven't risked damaging the paint by heating the area to relieve the stress. I just get it "good enough" and am happy that I saved a bundle over full replacement and repaint.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #25667 on: February 18, 2019, 06:54:29 pm »
Med, have a play with Histogram and Trend too, they can both be displayed on the LCD.
IIRC they're in the Display menu.

Yep, got it.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #25668 on: February 18, 2019, 07:13:16 pm »
:-DD

More bitching here. Just sent an order off to JLCPCB and realised I fucked up two TQFP pins. This is only a prototype run so not end of world but do I bodge it with kynar when it turns up or order another batch?
Botch it first to prove the concept works as planned.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #25669 on: February 18, 2019, 07:19:09 pm »

mnem
And now, for something completely awesome:

You can kiss my panda too.   :-DD :-DD :-DD :-DD

I knew you'd get it!  :-+ :-+ :-+

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #25670 on: February 18, 2019, 08:25:04 pm »
In Other News... The ToolDwagon needs TOOL ADVICE!

   Okay... this is an area where I have no experience. I have lots of experience with traditional body work, and I have an idea about how these should work... but zero practical knowledge. Does anybody here know anything about paintless dent repair tools? Do these little lever and hot-glue gadgets actually work? What first-time pitfalls top avoid?
I've done some paintless dent repair (PDR), but haven't used those glue-on pullers. My dents were fortunately reachable from behind. I've seen some have issues with adhesion and will need to glue the head on multiple times. Of course, the marketing material is showing a theoretical result. You'll still have to work on the metal around the dent to (1) get any ripples out, especially around the perimeter of the dent, and (2) prevent gas canning.

Working from behind the dent, I use whatever is an appropriate size/shape object for each stage of repair (though you can get all sorts of "proper" PDR tools for pushing out dents) and then stabilize and refine the area with a tap down tool. PDR truly is an art and I don't have the level of experience required to quickly get good results. It's quite time consuming. Overworking the metal can be an issue too, though I haven't risked damaging the paint by heating the area to relieve the stress. I just get it "good enough" and am happy that I saved a bundle over full replacement and repaint.

Yup... that kind of work I'm very familiar with. I've "popped" and "rubbed out" more dents than I can count, often without repainting. It's this crop of "Glue-on" doodads I'm interested in though; got a small kink in SWMBOs liftgate from accidentally trying to close it on too many suitcases during our holiday trip to Ohio. Where it's at appears to be a "closed cell" area of the panel; no way to get behind it without cutting metal.

MMokay... I'll do some more research. I know what I'm asking is definitely cross-disciplinary knowledge in here.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #25671 on: February 18, 2019, 08:43:13 pm »

Yup... that kind of work I'm very familiar with. I've "popped" and "rubbed out" more dents than I can count, often without repainting. It's this crop of "Glue-on" doodads I'm interested in though; got a small kink in SWMBOs liftgate from accidentally trying to close it on too many suitcases during our holiday trip to Ohio. Where it's at appears to be a "closed cell" area of the panel; no way to get behind it without cutting metal.

MMokay... I'll do some more research. I know what I'm asking is definitely cross-disciplinary knowledge in here.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #25672 on: February 18, 2019, 09:27:08 pm »
I've received an item from Ebay today and it seems there's a sticker on it which wasn't in the pictures. It's probably not the item photographed, even though it's in good shape otherwise. It's one of those stickers which leaves the text "VOID" on the case when removed. This is unfortunately partially covering silk screened text, which I definitely don't want to rub off. What's a good way of removing the sticker residue without removing the silk screen? Normal sticker remover is way too aggressive to be trusted with this.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #25673 on: February 18, 2019, 09:35:59 pm »
I've found that carefully heating labels with a heat gun on low, is enough to soften the glue so they can be peeled off with no damage to the underlying surface.  *)

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #25674 on: February 18, 2019, 09:53:53 pm »
I also find that WD40 (not the switch cleaner) is pretty good and is gentle on other serfaces surfaces, at least it has been for me. Spray it on and leave it for a few minutes and it will normally lift with ease.
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