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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44500 on: December 08, 2019, 10:41:57 pm »
naaaa, no sweat, I am just bidding on yet another pinball machine. F14 Tomcat, however battery leakage and damage across the mainboard.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44501 on: December 08, 2019, 10:45:44 pm »
what the hell do you need neptunium hexaflouride for ? Build smaller igniters for thermonuclear devices ? Improvements to Teller Ulam ?
Well, no and maybe. You don't need the hexafluoride for that. The hexafluoride is for separation. :-//
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44502 on: December 08, 2019, 10:48:56 pm »
umm, thanks, but I don't have an interest in X-Ray. I would have an interest in some gizmo to generate a directed 20 MW pulse in the several hundred MHz or even low GHz range and evaluate its ECM potential.

BUT as I am no longer working in that particular area (the SigInt/ ComInt part) I really don't need to know ...
 
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44503 on: December 08, 2019, 10:50:22 pm »
what the hell do you need neptunium hexaflouride for ? Build smaller igniters for thermonuclear devices ? Improvements to Teller Ulam ?

I would guess "to separate Neptunium into its isotopes". Uranium Hexafluoride (in gas form) is used to separate 235U and 238U by using either gas diffusion apparatus or gas centrifuges. What you do with it once you've got it separated is anybody's guess.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44504 on: December 08, 2019, 10:55:39 pm »
umm, thanks, but I don't have an interest in X-Ray. I would have an interest in some gizmo to generate a directed 20 MW pulse in the several hundred MHz or even low GHz range and evaluate its ECM potential.

BUT as I am no longer working in that particular area (the SigInt/ ComInt part) I really don't need to know ...

You probably need a bigger house for that  ;D

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44505 on: December 08, 2019, 10:55:56 pm »
regarding Neptunium:
I know. Looking at the name of the lab which was apparently considering the use of FOOF I was just having an educated guess.

regarding that ECM / microwave stuff:
I had a chance to look at some serious air surveillance stuff some umphteen years back.
Memories ...
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44506 on: December 08, 2019, 10:56:52 pm »
what the hell do you need neptunium hexaflouride for ? Build smaller igniters for thermonuclear devices ? Improvements to Teller Ulam ?

I would guess "to separate Neptunium into its isotopes". Uranium Hexafluoride (in gas form) is used to separate 235U and 238U by using either gas diffusion apparatus or gas centrifuges. What you do with it once you've got it separated is anybody's guess.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44507 on: December 08, 2019, 10:57:11 pm »
umm, thanks, but I don't have an interest in X-Ray. I would have an interest in some gizmo to generate a directed 20 MW pulse in the several hundred MHz or even low GHz range and evaluate its ECM potential.

BUT as I am no longer working in that particular area (the SigInt/ ComInt part) I really don't need to know ...
Ran NEMP testing somewhere. Talked shop there with someone about something built for another unit. Large suitcase, place upright, stick antenna to one side, aim, press button. Normal house, 100m, electronics reliably fried.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44508 on: December 08, 2019, 10:59:44 pm »
Gimme ! Gimme ! Gimme !
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44509 on: December 08, 2019, 11:01:16 pm »
So I don't want to say TOO much yet, but later this month...if all goes well...there will be a very very awesome TEA day here at my house. There is a very special piece of RF test equipment coming that is still factory sealed and brand new, even though it isn't new.  :-DD  There will be photographs.  :-+

You're just a big tease, aren't you?  ;D

 :-DD  >:D

Well, it's not often that us hobbyists get the opportunity to buy a piece of very very high end equipment that's still factory sealed. So I want it to be a nice surprise for everyone ca Christmas. :)

Is it, by any chance, a Rohde & Schwarz  FSEK spectrum analyzer?  :)

Nope. Wrong brand. You're warm though. ;)
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44510 on: December 08, 2019, 11:02:04 pm »
umm, thanks, but I don't have an interest in X-Ray. I would have an interest in some gizmo to generate a directed 20 MW pulse in the several hundred MHz or even low GHz range and evaluate its ECM potential.

BUT as I am no longer working in that particular area (the SigInt/ ComInt part) I really don't need to know ...

So what... got some pesky surveillance drones keep coming around that need to “Have a accident”...? >:D

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44511 on: December 08, 2019, 11:04:11 pm »
umm, thanks, but I don't have an interest in X-Ray. I would have an interest in some gizmo to generate a directed 20 MW pulse in the several hundred MHz or even low GHz range and evaluate its ECM potential.

BUT as I am no longer working in that particular area (the SigInt/ ComInt part) I really don't need to know ...

So what... got some pesky surveillance drones keep coming around that need to “Have a accident”...? >:D

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With 20 MW, you could wreak all kinds of havoc on virtually anything, even if it's shielded.
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44512 on: December 08, 2019, 11:06:16 pm »
And another bump in the road to TE sufficiency.
Found that Chauvin Arnoux isolation meter - a 'megger' to most of you - which has a BNC as measurement connection. I wanted to give that thing out to that technicians that would use my Anritsu Sitemaster, which I am already renting to my company. Isolation measurement on coaxial lines using this and a BNC/N adaptor and the high quality leader cable from the Sitemaster.
What can I say? It does not work. And the great apes were already in there. Will post and show.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44513 on: December 08, 2019, 11:07:47 pm »
umm, thanks, but I don't have an interest in X-Ray. I would have an interest in some gizmo to generate a directed 20 MW pulse in the several hundred MHz or even low GHz range and evaluate its ECM potential.

BUT as I am no longer working in that particular area (the SigInt/ ComInt part) I really don't need to know ...

So what... got some pesky surveillance drones keep coming around that need to “Have a accident”...? >:D

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Our TEA dragon, always to be practical ...  >:D
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44514 on: December 08, 2019, 11:09:22 pm »


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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44515 on: December 08, 2019, 11:09:50 pm »
I'm calling the 5th. With 20 MW you should be able to fry low flying geese.
Save the time to start up the BBQ.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44516 on: December 08, 2019, 11:19:04 pm »
I'm calling the 5th. With 20 MW you should be able to fry low flying geese.
Save the time to start up the BBQ.

Fun anecdote: the (vacuum tube) radar of the Soviet MiG-25 interceptor would kill unfortunate small animals at surprising ranges during ground tests. Wonder how RF cooked goose tastes?  >:D
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44517 on: December 08, 2019, 11:21:17 pm »
Gimme ! Gimme ! Gimme !
They also had a steel plate of ~25mm with a hole in it. That was made on the occasion when someone high up wanted to know if that particle beam stuff is real. Needed some time, though. Nevertheless, I was impressed. That came out of a ~150m³ volume unit.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44518 on: December 08, 2019, 11:25:32 pm »
I'm calling the 5th. With 20 MW you should be able to fry low flying geese.
Save the time to start up the BBQ.

Fun anecdote: the (vacuum tube) radar of the Soviet MiG-25 interceptor would kill unfortunate small animals at surprising ranges during ground tests. Wonder how RF cooked goose tastes?  >:D

Did anybody test the unsuspecting pilots for radiation induced cancer ? Happened in Germany to those Radar operators. Due to insufficient shielding they were exposed to way too much radiation, got cancer and died.

As for the taste:
like chicken.

Seriously, put a goose in the microwave. Same thing.

 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44519 on: December 08, 2019, 11:29:04 pm »
I have no idea. I would imagine the pilot is mostly ok since the radar in a fighter or interceptor is highly directional. Who knows though? There is the story of Viktor Belenko, a Soviet MiG-25 pilot who defected and landed his plane in Japan. Very fascinating.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44520 on: December 08, 2019, 11:30:08 pm »
I'm calling the 5th. With 20 MW you should be able to fry low flying geese.
Save the time to start up the BBQ.

Fun anecdote: the (vacuum tube) radar of the Soviet MiG-25 interceptor would kill unfortunate small animals at surprising ranges during ground tests. Wonder how RF cooked goose tastes?  >:D

Did anybody test the unsuspecting pilots for radiation induced cancer ? Happened in Germany to those Radar operators. Due to insufficient shielding they were exposed to way too much radiation, got cancer and died.

As for the taste:
like chicken.

Seriously, put a goose in the microwave. Same thing.

Well yeah, but at 20 MW I bet it would be burned to a crisp quickly.  :-DD Microwaves ruin meat anyway.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44521 on: December 08, 2019, 11:36:03 pm »
I have no idea. I would imagine the pilot is mostly ok since the radar in a fighter or interceptor is highly directional. Who knows though? There is the story of Viktor Belenko, a Soviet MiG-25 pilot who defected and landed his plane in Japan. Very fascinating.

The microwave radiation of a radar will not create cancer but the x-ray radiation of the e.g. Thyratrons will.
That's why the technical personell got cancer when they worked on unshielded and operational radar units.

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Dangerous is the microwave radiation for your eyes, when the glass body of your eyes gets too warm it will damage it,
similiar to a grey star syndrome.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44522 on: December 08, 2019, 11:41:36 pm »
Trying to recomplete my Tek-Meter THM560:
I found out now that the threaded test leads Tek gave out with it were from Mueller Electric. And they don't list the missing yellow and blue accessories for order.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44523 on: December 08, 2019, 11:53:47 pm »
I'm calling the 5th. With 20 MW you should be able to fry low flying geese.
Save the time to start up the BBQ.

Fun anecdote: the (vacuum tube) radar of the Soviet MiG-25 interceptor would kill unfortunate small animals at surprising ranges during ground tests. Wonder how RF cooked goose tastes?  >:D

Did anybody test the unsuspecting pilots for radiation induced cancer ? Happened in Germany to those Radar operators. Due to insufficient shielding they were exposed to way too much radiation, got cancer and died.

As for the taste:
like chicken.

Seriously, put a goose in the microwave. Same thing.
Radiation doesn't taste like chicken. It tastes salty. Seriously. Because of the petechia.

BTW, do you have 'personality pods' (CPU-specific) for that Agilent logic analyzer?
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44524 on: December 08, 2019, 11:58:40 pm »
I have no idea. I would imagine the pilot is mostly ok since the radar in a fighter or interceptor is highly directional. Who knows though? There is the story of Viktor Belenko, a Soviet MiG-25 pilot who defected and landed his plane in Japan. Very fascinating.

The microwave radiation of a radar will not create cancer but the x-ray radiation of the e.g. Thyratrons will.
That's why the technical personell got cancer when they worked on unshielded and operational radar units.

Edit:
Dangerous is the microwave radiation for your eyes, when the glass body of your eyes gets too warm it will damage it,
similiar to a grey star syndrome.

Just to be clear, I am not claiming that rf is ionizing. High power microwaves are definitely dangerous for the reasons you state...heating flesh, particularly vulnerable parts like your eyes.
 


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