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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44525 on: December 09, 2019, 12:01:16 am »
I'm calling the 5th. With 20 MW you should be able to fry low flying geese.
Save the time to start up the BBQ.

Fun anecdote: the (vacuum tube) radar of the Soviet MiG-25 interceptor would kill unfortunate small animals at surprising ranges during ground tests. Wonder how RF cooked goose tastes?  >:D

Did anybody test the unsuspecting pilots for radiation induced cancer ? Happened in Germany to those Radar operators. Due to insufficient shielding they were exposed to way too much radiation, got cancer and died.

As for the taste:
like chicken.

Seriously, put a goose in the microwave. Same thing.
Radiation doesn't taste like chicken. It tastes salty. Seriously. Because of the petechia.

BTW, do you have 'personality pods' (CPU-specific) for that Agilent logic analyzer?

My Father was in the US Coast Guard in the late 1940's and early 1950's as a radio tech/radar operator. Standard procedure for doing a quick and dirty check of the radar was to suspend a piece of meat on a pole and place it in front of the dish. If the meat started smoking it was working.  :o
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44526 on: December 09, 2019, 12:11:09 am »
Got to admit I’m on the fence with Carlson. I respect what he has done and don’t find him patronising but I find him irritating for some reason. I still watch videos occasionally if on topic of interest but find them rather slow. Life’s not very long. As for the clean bench, I like a clean bench too! I agree with your points there though.

I wonder what they think of MIKROWAVE1 (my favourite channel). Typical content: https://youtu.be/WwMxbp0YwUA

I subscribed and I'll check it out later.

Started checking out his videos and he's mostly ham related but interesting. Watched his restoration of Heath HR-10 Receiver and he did something I totally disagree with and it did come back to bite him in the rear. He attempted to "re-form" the aluminum can B+ capacitors by bringing it up on a variac. Total waste of time. After he was done he had a receiver with low B+, hum, no sensitivity. ALWAYS assume those caps are bad. Changing them out is a given on typical consumer type gear. I always do that on tube gear before any attempt at power up. Saves time and aggravation. The ONLY exception to this is industrial gear like Tek and HP. Those capacitors are typically much higher quality and some will last damn near forever.   
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44527 on: December 09, 2019, 12:17:59 am »
I think even more important is a good compressor, oil free of course. Or did we already have it here? The thread is very long. In addition, I do not know where to put the whole thing yet.

I have a Dürr one, used by a dentist. 170€ was a steal.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44528 on: December 09, 2019, 12:25:54 am »
umm, thanks, but I don't have an interest in X-Ray. I would have an interest in some gizmo to generate a directed 20 MW pulse in the several hundred MHz or even low GHz range and evaluate its ECM potential.

BUT as I am no longer working in that particular area (the SigInt/ ComInt part) I really don't need to know ...

So what... got some pesky surveillance drones keep coming around that need to “Have a accident”...? >:D

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With 20 MW, you could wreak all kinds of havoc on virtually anything, even if it's shielded.

Well, yeah... but I was thinking more in terms of range, and the scattering effect of high-density CF weave commonly used in drone construction. Given that combination, 20MW seemed about right. ;)

Our TEA dragon, always to be practical ...  >:D

It's my curse.  >:D

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44529 on: December 09, 2019, 12:36:45 am »
I'm calling the 5th. With 20 MW you should be able to fry low flying geese.Save the time to start up the BBQ.
Fun anecdote: the (vacuum tube) radar of the Soviet MiG-25 interceptor would kill unfortunate small animals at surprising ranges during ground tests. Wonder how RF cooked goose tastes?  >:D
...As for the taste: like chicken. Seriously, put a goose in the microwave. Same thing.
Radiation doesn't taste like chicken. It tastes salty. Seriously. Because of the petechia.
My Father was in the US Coast Guard in the late 1940's and early 1950's as a radio tech/radar operator. Standard procedure for doing a quick and dirty check of the radar was to suspend a piece of meat on a pole and place it in front of the dish. If the meat started smoking it was working.  :o



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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44530 on: December 09, 2019, 12:51:37 am »
I have no idea. I would imagine the pilot is mostly ok since the radar in a fighter or interceptor is highly directional.
You do not need to fly high to become sick, i recall a lawsuit talks when a cop claimed he got a testicular cancer from routinely placing his car speed radar between his legs when being on patrol.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44531 on: December 09, 2019, 12:52:09 am »
Hey, there wasn't much entertainment on a Coast Guard cutter. It's called invent your own games/entertainment.  ;D

The absolute worst duty you could pull in the USCG was to be stationed on the old, no longer in service, lighthouse ships. They were stationed, at all times, near the entrances to harbors, such as NYC. No matter the weather. Hurricane? Tough shit. You were on station. Firmly anchored with multiples. The ship rolling, heaving, and nearly capsizing. The ships cook would have to lash the pots/pans to the stove to prevent them from falling off. And the head was unusable because even with a baffle plate the water would geyser up to the ceiling. Fun times.  :palm:   
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44532 on: December 09, 2019, 12:54:04 am »
Started checking out his videos and he's mostly ham related but interesting. Watched his restoration of Heath HR-10 Receiver and he did something I totally disagree with and it did come back to bite him in the rear. He attempted to "re-form" the aluminum can B+ capacitors by bringing it up on a variac. Total waste of time. After he was done he had a receiver with low B+, hum, no sensitivity. ALWAYS assume those caps are bad. Changing them out is a given on typical consumer type gear. I always do that on tube gear before any attempt at power up. Saves time and aggravation. The ONLY exception to this is industrial gear like Tek and HP. Those capacitors are typically much higher quality and some will last damn near forever.

Oh Mr. Carlson - the guy who mispronounces this word -"solder".  >:D
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44533 on: December 09, 2019, 12:55:50 am »
Slow down you mob 6 pages in 12 hours major verbal diarrhea :-DD

@mnmenth the 6022BL is a good toy but the software sort of sucks. Sold mine to @brumby a while ago >:D :-DD

Also no oil on files for preference as mine get used on all sorts of materials from wood to fiberglass to metals. I think a lot of the sludge on this lot were from oiling then collecting gunk and drying out over time.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44534 on: December 09, 2019, 12:56:35 am »
Started checking out his videos and he's mostly ham related but interesting. Watched his restoration of Heath HR-10 Receiver and he did something I totally disagree with and it did come back to bite him in the rear. He attempted to "re-form" the aluminum can B+ capacitors by bringing it up on a variac. Total waste of time. After he was done he had a receiver with low B+, hum, no sensitivity. ALWAYS assume those caps are bad. Changing them out is a given on typical consumer type gear. I always do that on tube gear before any attempt at power up. Saves time and aggravation. The ONLY exception to this is industrial gear like Tek and HP. Those capacitors are typically much higher quality and some will last damn near forever.

Oh Mr. Carlson - the guy who mispronounces this word -"solder".  >:D

No this is MIKROWAVE1. But yes, Carlson does say solder weird. He is Canadian after all. Eh?  :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44535 on: December 09, 2019, 12:57:20 am »
I am the same about 'mr Carlson', something there doesn't agree with me - but mostly the content is good.
Shariar - totally the opposite - I have to watch his YouTubes in slow-mo so I can catch up! And at the end my head hurts.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44536 on: December 09, 2019, 12:58:03 am »
Slow down you mob 6 pages in 12 hours major verbal diarrhea :-DD



That's what you get for falling asleep.  :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44537 on: December 09, 2019, 01:34:15 am »
@mnmenth the 6022BL is a good toy but the software sort of sucks. Sold mine to @brumby a while ago >:D :-DD
+1 on the software suckiness.  Tried a couple of alternatives, but found nothing I am really happy with.

If anyone comes across something that is stable, has a decent UI and some reasonable functionality, then I'd be quite happy to hear about it.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44538 on: December 09, 2019, 01:35:26 am »
Slow down you mob 6 pages in 12 hours major verbal diarrhea :-DD

Suck it up, princess.   :-DD
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44539 on: December 09, 2019, 02:26:54 am »
Slow down you mob 6 pages in 12 hours major verbal diarrhea :-DD

Suck it up, princess.   :-DD

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44540 on: December 09, 2019, 03:32:13 am »
eBay auction: #143399764461

I wish this isn't quite so expensive...the HP-65 is another bit of programmable RPN goodness that I want.  :-DD
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44541 on: December 09, 2019, 03:41:14 am »
If you must this one is cheaper. Still have NFI why you would pay a premium for an old calculator above what they were worth new ::)

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44542 on: December 09, 2019, 03:46:03 am »
Slow down you mob 6 pages in 12 hours major verbal diarrhea :-DD

@mnementh the 6022BL is a good toy but the software sort of sucks. Sold mine to @brumby a while ago >:D :-DD

Also no oil on files for preference as mine get used on all sorts of materials from wood to fiberglass to metals. I think a lot of the sludge on this lot were from oiling then collecting gunk and drying out over time.

Been playing with the software. Honestly, no more aggravating than my 1054Zed. ;) Also looking into sigrok's offerings. I figure for $67 it's cheap enough to get me by until my bench is whole again, then I can keep it for the LA when I need concurrent use with my Rigol.

Gummed-up files suck... carding them before storage has always been the prevention for me. But I store in an oilcloth too. ;)

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44543 on: December 09, 2019, 03:49:06 am »
If you must this one is cheaper. Still have NFI why you would pay a premium for an old calculator above what they were worth new ::)

eBay auction: #233310401599

I am not spending $700 on a calculator. But, if we're going down that rabbit hole...why do we spend $$ on old test equipment no one wants anymore? I like old calculators for the same reason. Especially to trigger nixiefreqq>:D >:D >:D
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44544 on: December 09, 2019, 03:53:52 am »
If you must this one is cheaper. Still have NFI why you would pay a premium for an old calculator above what they were worth new ::)

eBay auction: #233310401599

I am not spending $700 on a calculator. But, if we're going down that rabbit hole...why do we spend $$ on old test equipment no one wants anymore? I like old calculators for the same reason. Especially to trigger nixiefreqq>:D >:D >:D

Generally for Test gear however we pay cents on the $ not 100% of new. Clearly RPN buyers are not so smart
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44545 on: December 09, 2019, 03:56:30 am »
If you must this one is cheaper. Still have NFI why you would pay a premium for an old calculator above what they were worth new ::)

eBay auction: #233310401599

I am not spending $700 on a calculator. But, if we're going down that rabbit hole...why do we spend $$ on old test equipment no one wants anymore? I like old calculators for the same reason. Especially to trigger nixiefreqq>:D >:D >:D

Generally for Test gear however we pay cents on the $ not 100% of new. Clearly RPN buyers are not so smart (Attachment Link)

Clearly, it's triggering you too.  >:D :-DD

I didn't spend anywhere near that for any of the vintage HP calcs I have, and I certainly am not starting now. Dunno why I can't get that message across.  :o
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44546 on: December 09, 2019, 04:07:39 am »
Not triggered and I don't currently use a specific calculator given phone options and even the windoze one on the pc.

As to RPN I never saw the point even when going to Uni 30+ years ago my Casios at the time did all that I needed and worked in line with what I had been taught for a dozen or more years before that.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44547 on: December 09, 2019, 04:25:23 am »
Perhaps my mind was young and agile, but I had no trouble adapting to RPN.  The only trick is to understand what's in the stack and enter your expression appropriately.  That takes an understanding of the calculation being performed, rather than monkey see, monkey do left-to-right-even-if-its-wrong approach.

Truth is, I can use a full algebraic calculator, an RPN or even a basic boring 4 banger if special functions aren't needed.

I just adapt to the tools available at the time.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44548 on: December 09, 2019, 04:26:21 am »
Slow down you mob 6 pages in 12 hours major verbal diarrhea :-DD

Suck it up, princess.   :-DD

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #44549 on: December 09, 2019, 04:29:04 am »
Perhaps my mind was young and agile, but I had no trouble adapting to RPN.  The only trick is to understand what's in the stack and enter your expression appropriately.  That takes an understanding of the calculation being performed, rather than monkey see, monkey do left-to-right-even-if-its-wrong approach.

Truth is, I can use a full algebraic calculator, an RPN or even a basic boring 4 banger if special functions aren't needed.

I just adapt to the tools available at the time.



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