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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47350 on: January 18, 2020, 03:02:28 pm »
Better still, put a cherry bomb in the DVD drive and light it.  ;D
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47351 on: January 18, 2020, 03:05:05 pm »
If I had one I fucking would. Give me some matches, some paper, some superglue, a 1 ohm 1/8w resistor, a 9v battery and some wire and I’ll macguyer one  :-DD
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47352 on: January 18, 2020, 03:45:17 pm »
Gratuitous RPN p0rn...mmmmmm  8)    >:D >:D >:D >:D

In here... is there really any such thing as gratuitous RPN pr0n...? I'd say the RPN/Algebraic logic debate is a part of the firmament; as vital to the lifeblood of the place as CROs and nixie tubes.:-DD

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47353 on: January 18, 2020, 03:57:15 pm »
The 858D is another of the "fan in the handle" models... I personally hate them. Much prefer the "hose-job" models; you can feel the work better without the vibration.

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I have a 858 with the fan in the handle and I know not what is this vibration you mention?  Mine is nice and vibration free and as for feel the work,  :-// how do you do that, its contactless its the air that does the work  >:D

Have you ever had a decent remote-pump model?  There is always vibration from the fan. When it's just you and the airflow and the much lighter handle, you get tactile feedback from the backpressure (or lack thereof) against the work. You can actually feel it as you pass the airflow over higher and lower surfaces. Also, having the air source remotely located allows you to use your hearing better as well; listening for the faint crackle as the solder liquefies and the part pops loose becomes second nature.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47354 on: January 18, 2020, 04:05:20 pm »
A while back there was someone on here looking for a +18V/-18V power pack...       I fucking HATE you. ;)
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47355 on: January 18, 2020, 04:10:58 pm »
in future.......please hide your shame.

A good workbench is one with a (HP) RPN calculator on it. ;)

Out of curiousity I've bought 3 pieces with 0.3%.
Values: 4300pF, 5900pF and 8000pF (0.5% this one)

My DER DE5000 should coming by end of month so I can do some measurements. :)
give a little box C to the voltnutz and let them do their hobby,
so you get a trustful set for calibration. Or visit me on the makerfaire hannover, right side from my bunch of oldies is always the calibration table from the PTB  :)
Henrik have enough cal bells + whistles to do that for you.  :)  (if not you get a free chair on my Hickok Digital System  ;D )

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I'm living in the southwest part of Germany, near to France and Switzerland.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47356 on: January 18, 2020, 04:15:16 pm »
Better still, put a cherry bomb in the DVD drive and light it.  ;D

Cherry bomb?  :-//

When it comes to a "cherry bomb", I'm always thinking about this song:

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47357 on: January 18, 2020, 04:42:36 pm »
in future.......please hide your shame.

Not shameful if the whole country likes it that way, and Germans do - allegedly.  ;)
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47358 on: January 18, 2020, 04:49:07 pm »
I am going to invoice him for this. That will make him fuck off.

If, like me, you've got a "Consultancy - things I don't want to do and have had pushed on me" rate, and if it's anything like my rate then Cousin Scrooge would be able to  buy a nice top-of-the-line notebook and have change left over for the billed fee. In my case it's three times my day rate for a 3 month+ contract.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47359 on: January 18, 2020, 04:50:03 pm »
in future.......please hide your shame.

Not shameful if the whole country likes it that way, and Germans do - allegedly.  ;)

Some of us (including me) better don't.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47360 on: January 18, 2020, 05:31:28 pm »
[...] When it's just you and the airflow and the much lighter handle, you get tactile feedback from the backpressure (or lack thereof) against the work. You can actually feel it as you pass the airflow over higher and lower surfaces. Also, having the air source remotely located allows you to use your hearing better as well; listening for the faint crackle as the solder liquefies and the part pops loose becomes second nature.


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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47361 on: January 18, 2020, 05:39:35 pm »
Sounds about right for HA. They're all bastards. Solution:



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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47362 on: January 18, 2020, 05:46:00 pm »
Ugh weekend two of Windows 10 upgrade hell. First weekend failure because the damn CPU won’t support Windows 10 fixed with cheap eBay core 2 jobby and now the WiFi card has no fucking drivers for Windows 10. So off to bloody Argos to buy a TP link piece of shit. This is all because the cretin who I am related to, who is incidentally wading knee deep in cash, is too cheap to buy a fucking new PC.

Edit: oh and now he’s going on about getting on WhatsApp for family photos but doesn’t want to spend more than £50 on the problem.  Currently has an ass end Nokia from the dark ages but doesn’t want a smartphone.

I am going to invoice him for this. That will make him fuck off.

Don't forget to add a line item for "consortium consultancy fee" since you brought the issue here; this should equal ~300% of the value of the entire ticket.  ;)

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47363 on: January 18, 2020, 05:50:06 pm »
I am going to invoice him for this. That will make him fuck off.
If, like me, you've got a "Consultancy - things I don't want to do and have had pushed on me" rate, and if it's anything like my rate then Cousin Scrooge would be able to  buy a nice top-of-the-line notebook and have change left over for the billed fee. In my case it's three times my day rate for a 3 month+ contract.

LOL IRL...  :-DD

I KNEW we were all the same sort of curmudgeon. I posted the above before I ever saw this...  >:D

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47364 on: January 18, 2020, 05:52:01 pm »
Checked out my 53310A a bit today. It's a little dirty and there's some burn-in on the CRT, but still looks good. Man it's bigger than I was expecting. Much wider than my 8560E, but fortunately not as long.

Can it perform an FM deviation measurement? If it does can you show me a pic of that screen? I want a unit that will do that measurement directly.

It measures peak-to-peak frequency deviation directly, so you can easily get FM deviation from that.
 

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« Reply #47365 on: January 18, 2020, 06:01:39 pm »
Ugh weekend two of Windows 10 upgrade hell. First weekend failure because the damn CPU won’t support Windows 10 fixed with cheap eBay core 2 jobby and now the WiFi card has no fucking drivers for Windows 10. So off to bloody Argos to buy a TP link piece of shit. This is all because the cretin who I am related to, who is incidentally wading knee deep in cash, is too cheap to buy a fucking new PC.

Edit: oh and now he’s going on about getting on WhatsApp for family photos but doesn’t want to spend more than £50 on the problem.  Currently has an ass end Nokia from the dark ages but doesn’t want a smartphone.

I am going to invoice him for this. That will make him fuck off.

Don't forget to add a line item for "consortium consultancy fee" since you brought the issue here; this should equal ~300% of the value of the entire ticket.  ;)

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£700 invoice will be issued  :-DD  I don’t expect payment just the point to be got :)

Well an interesting thing happened. The USB ports were so slow they were unusable. Turns out the first generation USB Microsoft natural keyboard fucks the entire USB bus to 1.0 if plugged in. It has two heads so got rammed in the PS2 port instead now all the USB2 ports work. Never seen that before!
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47366 on: January 18, 2020, 06:15:59 pm »
[...] When it's just you and the airflow and the much lighter handle, you get tactile feedback from the backpressure (or lack thereof) against the work. You can actually feel it as you pass the airflow over higher and lower surfaces. Also, having the air source remotely located allows you to use your hearing better as well; listening for the faint crackle as the solder liquefies and the part pops loose becomes second nature.


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Don't encourage him, please...... >:D
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47367 on: January 18, 2020, 06:25:11 pm »
Ugh weekend two of Windows 10 upgrade hell. First weekend failure because the damn CPU won’t support Windows 10 fixed with cheap eBay core 2 jobby and now the WiFi card has no fucking drivers for Windows 10. So off to bloody Argos to buy a TP link piece of shit. This is all because the cretin who I am related to, who is incidentally wading knee deep in cash, is too cheap to buy a fucking new PC.

Edit: oh and now he’s going on about getting on WhatsApp for family photos but doesn’t want to spend more than £50 on the problem.  Currently has an ass end Nokia from the dark ages but doesn’t want a smartphone.

I am going to invoice him for this. That will make him fuck off.

Don't forget to add a line item for "consortium consultancy fee" since you brought the issue here; this should equal ~300% of the value of the entire ticket.  ;)

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£700 invoice will be issued  :-DD  I don’t expect payment just the point to be got :)

Well an interesting thing happened. The USB ports were so slow they were unusable. Turns out the first generation USB Microsoft natural keyboard fucks the entire USB bus to 1.0 if plugged in. It has two heads so got rammed in the PS2 port instead now all the USB2 ports work. Never seen that before!
Did you run the compatibility check programme first?. I'd have been inclined to have just said that it failed the compatibility test and returned it to him told hi  to go and something that will run correctly with Win 10.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47368 on: January 18, 2020, 06:37:57 pm »
Checked out my 53310A a bit today. It's a little dirty and there's some burn-in on the CRT, but still looks good. Man it's bigger than I was expecting. Much wider than my 8560E, but fortunately not as long.

Can it perform an FM deviation measurement? If it does can you show me a pic of that screen? I want a unit that will do that measurement directly.

I'd assume it could, but it's a totally new piece of gear to me. You might call it an educational acquisition. (TEA provides many educational opportunities.) There isn't a screen specifically named that way as you might see on a radio analyzer.

It measures peak-to-peak frequency deviation directly, so you can easily get FM deviation from that.

Can you post some pics (or a short description) how that would be done to see if that'd help xrunner determine if it satisfies his requirement?
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47369 on: January 18, 2020, 06:39:43 pm »
Ugh weekend two of Windows 10 upgrade hell. First weekend failure because the damn CPU won’t support Windows 10 fixed with cheap eBay core 2 jobby and now the WiFi card has no fucking drivers for Windows 10. So off to bloody Argos to buy a TP link piece of shit. This is all because the cretin who I am related to, who is incidentally wading knee deep in cash, is too cheap to buy a fucking new PC.

Edit: oh and now he’s going on about getting on WhatsApp for family photos but doesn’t want to spend more than £50 on the problem.  Currently has an ass end Nokia from the dark ages but doesn’t want a smartphone.

I am going to invoice him for this. That will make him fuck off.

Don't forget to add a line item for "consortium consultancy fee" since you brought the issue here; this should equal ~300% of the value of the entire ticket.  ;)

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£700 invoice will be issued  :-DD  I don’t expect payment just the point to be got :)

Well an interesting thing happened. The USB ports were so slow they were unusable. Turns out the first generation USB Microsoft natural keyboard fucks the entire USB bus to 1.0 if plugged in. It has two heads so got rammed in the PS2 port instead now all the USB2 ports work. Never seen that before!

You didn't know that? I thought it was common knowledge. The USB will always default to the slowest standard device plugged into it.

Edit....you were lucky the keyboard also had a PS/2 type connector.....as well as the computer.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47370 on: January 18, 2020, 06:48:46 pm »
[...] When it's just you and the airflow and the much lighter handle, you get tactile feedback from the backpressure (or lack thereof) against the work. You can actually feel it as you pass the airflow over higher and lower surfaces. Also, having the air source remotely located allows you to use your hearing better as well; listening for the faint crackle as the solder liquefies and the part pops loose becomes second nature.

You, Sir, are an artist.

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While unboxing our new king-size mattress from Amazon, I split a fingernail well up into the quick. Fold it back down, a drop of CA. If it's a really long split like this one, apply a little wad of cotton from a Q-tip about the size of a match-head to the wet CA; add another drop and press the excess out with a flat of a knife. The fibers will reinforce the CA enough that the nail can grow out before the CA "blowout patch" fails. :-+

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47371 on: January 18, 2020, 06:50:18 pm »
Well done claw patch, mnem.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47372 on: January 18, 2020, 06:58:27 pm »
I'm pretty particular about 'em; if they get in the way I feel like I'm "working with a hand tied behind my back". I cannot fathom people like this:



I'd KILL MYSELF if I had to work like that; definitely a priority "thing" on the "My Personal HELL" list...  :palm:

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47373 on: January 18, 2020, 06:58:38 pm »
Checked out my 53310A a bit today. It's a little dirty and there's some burn-in on the CRT, but still looks good. Man it's bigger than I was expecting. Much wider than my 8560E, but fortunately not as long.

Can it perform an FM deviation measurement? If it does can you show me a pic of that screen? I want a unit that will do that measurement directly.

I'd assume it could, but it's a totally new piece of gear to me. You might call it an educational acquisition. (TEA provides many educational opportunities.) There isn't a screen specifically named that way as you might see on a radio analyzer.

It measures peak-to-peak frequency deviation directly, so you can easily get FM deviation from that.

Can you post some pics (or a short description) how that would be done to see if that'd help xrunner determine if it satisfies his requirement?

Pics a little later, but there is a direct measurement (shift function) on the front panel to measure pk-pk deviation in both modulation domain and histogram modes. Can also be done with markers.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #47374 on: January 18, 2020, 07:01:52 pm »
[...] When it's just you and the airflow and the much lighter handle, you get tactile feedback from the backpressure (or lack thereof) against the work. You can actually feel it as you pass the airflow over higher and lower surfaces. Also, having the air source remotely located allows you to use your hearing better as well; listening for the faint crackle as the solder liquefies and the part pops loose becomes second nature.

You, Sir, are an artist.

I don't know about that... but I do consider myself a craftsman. Last of a dying breed, I fear... people who actually enjoy working with their hands. :palm:



Craftsman lifehack # 327B:

While unboxing our new king-size mattress from Amazon, I split a fingernail well up into the quick. Fold it back down, a drop of CA. If it's a really long split like this one, apply a little wad of cotton from a Q-tip about the size of a match-head to the wet CA; add another drop and press the excess out with a flat of a knife. The fibers will reinforce the CA enough that the nail can grow out before the CA "blowout patch" fails. :-+

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