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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #54525 on: April 04, 2020, 05:26:46 am »
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@BU508A, it's a 2-way thing. I just raised "schadenfreude" as we were talking about humour. It's probably my favourite German word after "Donaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaftskapitän".
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May I extend that a little bit for you, just a random thought:

"Donaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaftskapitänskajütenbullaugenausblick"   >:D   :-DD

Inspiration from said randomness:

"Donaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaftskapitänskajütenbullaugenausblickspostkartenfreimarkensammler"

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #54526 on: April 04, 2020, 06:09:25 am »
An hour or so later.....

Points cleans and tweaked, Balls held in place with the use of correct tongue angle ::) all parts lubed and accounted for the 2400w Router is ready for it's next life. Even without a bit in it is a scary level of torque and potential carnage.  :scared:

10% of new price  :-+
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #54527 on: April 04, 2020, 06:14:45 am »
An hour or so later.....

Points cleans and tweaked, Balls held in place with the use of correct tongue angle ::) all parts lubed and accounted for the 2400w Router is ready for it's next life. Even without a bit in it is a scary level of torque and potential carnage.  :scared:

10% of new price  :-+
Just a dicky switch like you thought bean ?
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #54528 on: April 04, 2020, 06:20:42 am »
An hour or so later.....

Points cleans and tweaked, Balls held in place with the use of correct tongue angle ::) all parts lubed and accounted for the 2400w Router is ready for it's next life. Even without a bit in it is a scary level of torque and potential carnage.  :scared:

10% of new price  :-+
Just a dicky switch like you thought bean ?

The photo doesn't show it that well but one of the points in particular had been arcing fairly badly. The switch carries the full 2400W so I will order a new one and swap it out anyway but for the time being it is working well. The rest of it is in really good condition for a 16 year old tool :)
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #54529 on: April 04, 2020, 06:23:42 am »
An hour or so later.....

Points cleans and tweaked, Balls held in place with the use of correct tongue angle ::) all parts lubed and accounted for the 2400w Router is ready for it's next life. Even without a bit in it is a scary level of torque and potential carnage.  :scared:

10% of new price  :-+
Just a dicky switch like you thought bean ?

The photo doesn't show it that well but one of the points in particular had been arcing fairly badly. The switch carries the full 2400W so I will order a new one and swap it out anyway but for the time being it is working well. The rest of it is in really good condition for a 16 year old tool :)
Cool, so it was worth the punt.  :clap:
Nice when a cunning plan comes together.  :)
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #54530 on: April 04, 2020, 06:47:54 am »
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@BU508A, it's a 2-way thing. I just raised "schadenfreude" as we were talking about humour. It's probably my favourite German word after "Donaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaftskapitän".
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You can do better then that:
Donaudampfschiffahrtsgesellschaftskapitänsanwärterin :palm:

which would still make sense in practice
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #54531 on: April 04, 2020, 07:52:28 am »
Finally got around to it - building a dodgy vero board for the atmel micro for the Tek Logo and Wizard - I had to put it up on a Tek! Trying to decide whether I want to box it up properly or not. Does shimmer quite a bit.
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Whoah! Watch where that landed we might need it later.
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #54532 on: April 04, 2020, 07:53:50 am »
(At the risk of getting an unflattering answer...)

Do you mean the daft side or the non-daft side?

Click..click..click..click..click... ...click-clack.  Ready.

You're assuming that, amongst the bunch of monkeys you've chosen to hang out with here, that there is a non-daft side. I fear that you many be wrong.
Interesting point....

No overkill here. 6 1/2 digit continuity tester during a power tool repair ;D
Entirely understandable here.



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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #54533 on: April 04, 2020, 08:24:03 am »
So, how long do I have to wait?

Ordered a new CRT-based fleabay toy on 21st March, delivery 9-18th April.

It went through the GSP and Herpes got hold of it yesterday. Got up and checked the Herpes website to find my household had signed for it 5 minutes earlier. Found it on my doorstep, with cardboard box intact. The cardboard box is in good condition externally, but is smaller than I would like.

Two questions:
  • what are the tell-tale signs that GSP might have removed outer packaging to save volume/weight?
  • how long should I wait before it is safe to open it?
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #54534 on: April 04, 2020, 08:30:11 am »
Finally got around to it - building a dodgy vero board for the atmel micro for the Tek Logo and Wizard - I had to put it up on a Tek! Trying to decide whether I want to box it up properly or not. Does shimmer quite a bit.
Rob

Nice scope!   :-+  Good choice!   ;)



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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #54535 on: April 04, 2020, 08:43:43 am »
the virus survives up to 24h on cardboard if what they tell you is true.




@tggzzz
I handle cardboard boxes as follows:
spray them off with disinfectant (IPA or similar)
let it dry
wear gloves to open it
take out content and put it into the decon box
either let it cool off for a couple of days in there or spray it down with IPA (UV-C ~250 nm wavelength exposure works as well)
let the IPA dry off - this will take a couple of minutes
after that it should be safe to handle.
dispose of gloves after use. and do not touch anything else with those gloves after handling the box.
A virus normally denaturates after being soaked in 70 - 80 % alcohol within a couple of minutes.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #54536 on: April 04, 2020, 08:44:22 am »
10 Put up a significant amount of additional shelving
20 Fill shelving
30 Find I need more shelving
40 LOOP

:palm:

A bit too BASIC.  ::)

10 LET Meter_Collection = X
20 LET Shelf_Space = Meter_Collection
30 GOTO Ebay
40 Meter_Collection = Meter_Collection + Ebay_Scores
50 IF Meter_Collection >= Shelf_Space THEN GOSUB 70
60 GOTO 30
70 REM Put_Up_Shelving
80 GOTO IKEA
90 IF Screw_Count < Hole_Count THEN GOTO 80
100 Shelf_Space = Meter_Collection
110 RETURN


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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #54537 on: April 04, 2020, 08:59:35 am »
Hahaha I like the missing parts algorithm  :-DD
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #54538 on: April 04, 2020, 09:04:20 am »
@cubdriver. I agree, they are a good CRO and go for reasonable money,
 I have found a spec analyser more use than a scope over 50MHz!     Plus probes really don't work properly over 100MHz - unless you really are futzing around.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #54539 on: April 04, 2020, 09:25:00 am »
10 Put up a significant amount of additional shelving
20 Fill shelving
30 Find I need more shelving
40 LOOP

:palm:

A bit too BASIC.  ::)

10 LET Meter_Collection = X
20 LET Shelf_Space = Meter_Collection
30 GOTO Ebay
40 Meter_Collection = Meter_Collection + Ebay_Scores
50 IF Meter_Collection >= Shelf_Space THEN GOSUB 70
60 GOTO 30
70 REM Put_Up_Shelving
80 GOTO IKEA
90 IF Screw_Count <= Hole_Count GOTO 80
100 Shelf_Space = Meter_Collection
110 RETURN


McBryce.
you forgot
75 REM Find_temporary_Storage
76 REM Rent 20' container
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #54540 on: April 04, 2020, 09:27:15 am »
So I am confused but as I can think it there is 11 1/2 hours to go until the weekly chat session https://discordapp.com/channels/658020677533827101/662871717667930142 but by the Magic of Daylight Savings I think I gain a sleep in of another hour for 12 1/2 hours but if I start a countdown still 11 1/2  :scared: :=\
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #54541 on: April 04, 2020, 09:44:34 am »
the virus survives up to 24h on cardboard if what they tell you is true.

That's what I've heard, but I alert to the possibility of updates.

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I handle cardboard boxes as follows:
spray them off with disinfectant (IPA or similar)
let it dry
wear gloves to open it
take out content and put it into the decon box
either let it cool off for a couple of days in there or spray it down with IPA (UV-C ~250 nm wavelength exposure works as well)
let the IPA dry off - this will take a couple of minutes
after that it should be safe to handle.
dispose of gloves after use. and do not touch anything else with those gloves after handling the box.
A virus normally denaturates after being soaked in 70 - 80 % alcohol within a couple of minutes.

It is unclear to me how effective alcohol is in cardboard (or other porous surface), unless the cardboard becomes visibly wet. Alcohol is a scarce resource; my usual source is on backorder until the end of May, and I wouldn't bet I could get any then.

I'm happy to leave the box+contents undisturbed in my garage for a couple of days. That leaves the contents. Well, they were packaged in Utah on 23rd March (10 days ago) and left Erlanger on 30th March (5 days ago). Provided GPS hasn't repacked it, I'd use the 10 days and be satisfied with that.

Overall, as far as I understand it, the epidemiological models indicate that sooner or later everybody will be exposed to CV. Social distancing is simply to spread out the infections and reduce the initial peak, and possibly delay infection until after vaccines/treatments are available.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #54542 on: April 04, 2020, 09:51:06 am »
I am still wondering if that ABC protection suit will be acceptable in an office setting. Gotta go search for it, it should be somewhere in the basement.
Apart from that I have a 3M 6002 which should be arriving arrived today, and enough alcohol to make sanitizer for our team and our friends. Fortunately there is still one chemical plant that is producing loads of alcohol, and yes, the cardboard needs to be soaked.
If you do not trust the alcohol, get a UV-C lamp. UV light at the right wave length does kill any virus quite efficiently.
I don't care about those epidemiological studies, I just do not want to contract it and I can survive quite some time in my home office.

Looking at the normal clinical study cycles and the production cycles for any potential agent then:
- even fast tracked the clinical studies will take no less then 4 - 5 months, probably more like 6
- ramping up production for any antibody production will take no less than 12 weeks and the production sites are limited
- producing vaccines will also take a considerable time. We are talking biologicals, not chemicals. Synthesis of proteins is not trivial.
my best guess is: the situation may improve EOY. Probably not before. The other viable option would be to quarantine as many as possible to eliminate the transmission vectors.

I know, Gene sequencing of the virus strains is ongoing, even NVIDIA has offered their GPU based stuff for 90 days without license fees to support this. However just knowing about the RNA sequence is not enough, you must be able to produce an antibody AND be ready to do mass production AND be ready to force this into the population AND be ready to exterminate/eliminate the source of the virus

And yes, we are working on medications to control some of the damage done to the lungs of the survivors.
I cannot talk about the collaborations with J&J, Novartis, Merck, et alii, but rest assured that there is a lot of collaboration.
I have a notion that they will also offer mass production of any NBE that may come out of the research/development pipeline, but even if I knew I would not be authorized to talk about that.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #54543 on: April 04, 2020, 10:05:06 am »
On a positive note I can probably lick the packages clean safely now :-DD

 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #54544 on: April 04, 2020, 10:17:12 am »
Absolutely bd, you could be one of the first to get an 'immune band', and be allowed to live like a human being!
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #54545 on: April 04, 2020, 10:20:24 am »
Indeed. I shall resume my masterplan of world domination unhindered by the non diseased masses then 8)

BTW I'm backtracking on my earlier statement about not attending hamfests in the near future. The landscape of opportunity this has created could be a winner.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #54546 on: April 04, 2020, 10:20:34 am »
On a positive note I can probably lick the packages clean safely now :-DD

I'm confused and maybe I missed something. Did you indeed have a confirmed case of coronavirus?  :-//
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #54547 on: April 04, 2020, 10:22:52 am »
Not confirmed as such but the symptoms, progression compared to others who have verifiably suffered it are exactly the same. I am awaiting the impending shit show to pass on antibody testing to make an appearance on the market before I say yes for certain.

Key defining indicators were the temperature profile, dry cough and the complete loss of taste and smell. I still can't taste black coffee which is damn annoying  >:(

About the only things that taste ok are chocolate biscuits and Doritos  :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #54548 on: April 04, 2020, 10:33:51 am »
Oh, mnem's mention of Tek terminal strips reminded me of a recent Mr Carlson's Lab vid, on a Tek UT5 scope calibrator.

I do like his stuff, nice and relaxed presentation, but must admit, I'm not liking the way he seems to be constantly pimping his cap tester these days   :(

Anyone else noticed that, or am I being over-sensitive?

Precisely, he always gets a plug in almost every video. That said however he does a great presentation and really knows his subject, but sometimes I just wish he would get on with it as he seems to talk really slowly.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #54549 on: April 04, 2020, 10:40:47 am »
... but sometimes I just wish he would get on with it as he seems to talk really slowly.

That's true for almost all videos; hence I avoid them unless necessary.

CGP Grey is a notable exception: his yootoo vids are as information dense as 1970s and 1980s documentaries.
https://www.youtube.com/user/CGPGrey
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