Hey Med, I think I have one of them little probes for your baby Tek lying around and it’s yours for postage if you like.
Will dig it out tomorrow and post a pic.
You’ll have to wait until we get outta lockdown though for our Postshop’s to open again.
Finishing a Vodka and dry then it’s off to ded.
Thanks.
Hey Med, I think I have one of them little probes for your baby Tek lying around and it’s yours for postage if you like.
Will dig it out tomorrow and post a pic.
You’ll have to wait until we get outta lockdown though for our Postshop’s to open again.
Finishing a Vodka and dry then it’s off to ded.
Thanks.Pic attached.
Always wondered what these fitted and not until I saw that vid you posted did I know.
I don't recall where it came from or if it had the special Tek plug on its lead although I do remember it having a BNC plug that I fitted many years back being a tight arse and not wanting to shell out for another probe.
Now I don't give a shit and just buy what I need.
Hey Med, I think I have one of them little probes for your baby Tek lying around and it’s yours for postage if you like.
Will dig it out tomorrow and post a pic.
You’ll have to wait until we get outta lockdown though for our Postshop’s to open again.
Finishing a Vodka and dry then it’s off to ded.
Thanks.Pic attached.
Always wondered what these fitted and not until I saw that vid you posted did I know.
I don't recall where it came from or if it had the special Tek plug on its lead although I do remember it having a BNC plug that I fitted many years back being a tight arse and not wanting to shell out for another probe.
Now I don't give a shit and just buy what I need.
Yep, that's it. OK, when your lock down lifts lemme know how much and I'll send you the cash.
Oh hell... someone hide all my bank cards and hit me in the head before I do something foolish...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/373727179675
For those laughing at my Peugeot 107, it has a timing chain & a completely new motor is ~500€ (bare motor but still...)Pffft. Timing chain is no better intrinsically than a belt. Just ask any Saturn 4Cyl or Ecotec owner. Main problem with timing belt is time... it has to be replaced at certain intervals, where chains usually don't degrade.
Well, that and the fact they now design engines and the vehicle around them such that there are so many flag-hours in changing belt or chain that what should be periodic maintenance feels like being anally raped with a hot poker.
mnem
For those laughing at my Peugeot 107, it has a timing chain & a completely new motor is ~500€ (bare motor but still...)Pffft. Timing chain is no better intrinsically than a belt. Just ask any Saturn 4Cyl or Ecotec owner. Main problem with timing belt is time... it has to be replaced at certain intervals, where chains usually don't degrade.
Well, that and the fact they now design engines and the vehicle around them such that there are so many flag-hours in changing belt or chain that what should be periodic maintenance feels like being anally raped with a hot poker.
mnem
The first car I ever really delved into was an early 1950s Singer SM1500-----this was amazingly "high tech" for the period, with its overhead camshaft.
It used a timing chain which lasted for ever, combined with a really stupid, ineffective tensioning device.
When that failed as it almost inevitably did, the only obvious effect was to make the Singer sound like an ancient diesel bus!
The OHC didn't seem to offer any significant performance improvement over similar sized pushrod OHV or even side valve engines of the era.
The next time I had anything to do with OHC was with a mid '80s Toyota Corona, where the timing belt broke, & the car coasted to a graceful halt.
My daughter & I picked up a new belt, chucked it in on our driveway, & were on our way!
Then there was the 1988 Aussie Ford Falcon.
The timing belt was "built like a brick dunny", along with the rest of the engine.
The valves were huge, compared to the ones on my previous Holdens, or the Leyland P76.
Shame the peripherals weren't as good!
Oh hell... someone hide all my bank cards and hit me in the head before I do something foolish...
Current price is about the same as the cost of the Fischer connector (with a minumum order of £250, IIRC).
Eutectic alloys like 63/37 have a solidus/liquidus temp that is very nearly the same.
A eutectic has a precise temperature at which it melts completely or sets completely - not nearly the same, exactly the same. It's half of the definition of a eutectic, the other half being that the melting point of a eutectic is lower than the melting points of the alloy's constituents.
A eutectic has a phase diagram like this:
At the eutectic alloy composition there is no temperature point where there is liquid of one element and solid of another.They use the term eutectic specifically for 63/37. Yet you and I both know that the change in state with this kind of solder is not that exact. You should be able to use the melting point of 63/37 to set the temp on your soldering station; the closest you can get is within a few degrees.
Is it the product QC? Is it the interaction between the alloy and the flux? Is it sunspots...? I'm going to guess a combination of the above and the response curve/PID loop of the iron.
Doesn't matter. These are the terms the people who make the stuff use, and right or wrong, we have to deal with it.
mnem
Quote from: dictionary
eutectic | juːˈtɛktɪk | Chemistry
adjective
relating to or denoting a mixture of substances (in fixed proportions) that melts and freezes at a single temperature that is lower than the melting points of the separate constituents or of any other mixture of them: "the eutectic mixture melts at 183°C" | "silver and copper form a eutectic system".
noun
a eutectic mixture.
• short for eutectic point.
ORIGIN
late 19th century: from Greek eutēktos ‘easily melting’, from eu ‘well, easily’ + tēkein ‘melt’.
Thank you. You've confirmed that we all know what the dictionary meaning of the word is; I never argued that, only that this is the term used in particular for a whole class of solders by the people who make them, whether or not they adhere to that definition exactly.
With that established, do you think we could stop beating me over the head for something someone else did, please...?
mnem
Thanks, luvya, buh-bye...
Eutectic alloys like 63/37 have a solidus/liquidus temp that is very nearly the same.
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Maybe there is a cure for TEA. I mean, looking too long at THAT thing might very well break any affection for test equipment. This thing is so fecking ugly that I did not dare to post a picture of it.
Steel yourself for something really, really horrible and take a look:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/294250484573
Hurrrlk!
Soviet ТЛ-4М (ТL-4М) voltmeter from the Bay of Pay. It shipped from Latvia and I just got it yesterday.
It's bright orange, and it includes the battery cover. There are brass inserts in the plastic for the battery cover to screw into. Looks like one of the precision wire-wound resistors is toast and the glass meter cover is cracked. I tried the DC voltage up to 300V and it's reasonably accurate. It has 1,000V AC and DC modes but I don't have anything that makes 1000V DC (yet!). It's all hand assembled. Some Deoxit faderlube helped the mode-selection wheel to turn much easier. The switch in the lower left marked - ~ is the DC/AC mode selector switch. That's different. I grew up during the cold war, which makes this meter all the more interesting. Does anyone have any idea what year this was mode? I'll have to cut and paste some Cyrillic characters into a translating site to read what is written on the back.
EDIT:
Thanks, Neomys Sapiens. You meant to gross us out but instead triggered a spell of "What an odd little meter. I simply must have it."
EDIT:
"8512" on the diode. Is that a date code? Also, 84 and 85 markings on some of the resistors. Perhaps that's a year?
EDIT:
I just noticed the wire lacing. How many meters have that as a construction feature? Not too damn many, I'd wager.
@mnem congrats for going all in. And for your tinkering on those cameras.
in other news, my Nakamichi 680 arrived today. Need to unpack, due to recent events I had not gotten around to it yet.
The first car I ever really delved into was an early 1950s Singer SM1500-----this was amazingly "high tech" for the period, with its overhead camshaft.
A typical German flatjoke.
A joke for the dour-------Scots would probably appreciate it.
That is just too pointed. I have been so good holding back ... until now.
It is not really the joke that is flat (I have Scottish blood), but it is my Fahrrad that is flat...
I still have not found the cause of the flat tire in the conversation acouplemany of pages back ...
actually we'd say the joke is as flat as the countryside.
Especially if we are in the frisia (North, East, does not matter) where you can see on Monday who will be visiting you for tea on Friday.
Eutectic alloys like 63/37 have a solidus/liquidus temp that is very nearly the same.
A eutectic has a precise temperature at which it melts completely or sets completely - not nearly the same, exactly the same. It's half of the definition of a eutectic, the other half being that the melting point of a eutectic is lower than the melting points of the alloy's constituents.
A eutectic has a phase diagram like this:
At the eutectic alloy composition there is no temperature point where there is liquid of one element and solid of another.They use the term eutectic specifically for 63/37. Yet you and I both know that the change in state with this kind of solder is not that exact. You should be able to use the melting point of 63/37 to set the temp on your soldering station; the closest you can get is within a few degrees.
Is it the product QC? Is it the interaction between the alloy and the flux? Is it sunspots...? I'm going to guess a combination of the above and the response curve/PID loop of the iron.
Doesn't matter. These are the terms the people who make the stuff use, and right or wrong, we have to deal with it.
mnem
Quote from: dictionary
eutectic | juːˈtɛktɪk | Chemistry
adjective
relating to or denoting a mixture of substances (in fixed proportions) that melts and freezes at a single temperature that is lower than the melting points of the separate constituents or of any other mixture of them: "the eutectic mixture melts at 183°C" | "silver and copper form a eutectic system".
noun
a eutectic mixture.
• short for eutectic point.
ORIGIN
late 19th century: from Greek eutēktos ‘easily melting’, from eu ‘well, easily’ + tēkein ‘melt’.
Thank you. You've confirmed that we all know what the dictionary meaning of the word is; I never argued that, only that this is the term used in particular for a whole class of solders by the people who make them, whether or not they adhere to that definition exactly.
With that established, do you think we could stop beating me over the head for something someone else did, please...?
mnem
Thanks, luvya, buh-bye...
No, you, not somebody else, said.Eutectic alloys like 63/37 have a solidus/liquidus temp that is very nearly the same.
Really, do you have to start a spat every bloody time someone quietly corrects you on something you clearly don't properly understand?
If one says that a eutectic has different solidus and liquidus temperatures it is a contradiction in terms - a very part of the definition of a eutectic is that they are the same. It's categorically wrong. In very literal terms "You couldn't be more wrong". So, a correction for everybody's benefit and better understanding was in order.
I made no song and dance about it, I didn't go out of my way to embarrass you. I just added some accurate, correct information that would hopefully leave everybody better informed and not misled by what you said. If you'd just let it slide we wouldn't be sitting here with me having to point all this out. But for some reason you insist on drawing attention and blustering over what would have been a minor mistake made by someone nobody would necessarily expect to fully understand what is, after all, a specialist material science term; a bit of understandable ignorance that would cause no one to think the less of you.
Maybe there is a cure for TEA. I mean, looking too long at THAT thing might very well break any affection for test equipment. This thing is so fecking ugly that I did not dare to post a picture of it.
Steel yourself for something really, really horrible and take a look:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/294250484573
Hurrrlk!
Soviet ТЛ-4М (ТL-4М) voltmeter from the Bay of Pay. It shipped from Latvia and I just got it yesterday.
It's bright orange, and it includes the battery cover. There are brass inserts in the plastic for the battery cover to screw into. Looks like one of the precision wire-wound resistors is toast and the glass meter cover is cracked. I tried the DC voltage up to 300V and it's reasonably accurate. It has 1,000V AC and DC modes but I don't have anything that makes 1000V DC (yet!). It's all hand assembled. Some Deoxit faderlube helped the mode-selection wheel to turn much easier. The switch in the lower left marked - ~ is the DC/AC mode selector switch. That's different. I grew up during the cold war, which makes this meter all the more interesting. Does anyone have any idea what year this was mode? I'll have to cut and paste some Cyrillic characters into a translating site to read what is written on the back.
EDIT:
Thanks, Neomys Sapiens. You meant to gross us out but instead triggered a spell of "What an odd little meter. I simply must have it."
EDIT:
"8512" on the diode. Is that a date code? Also, 84 and 85 markings on some of the resistors. Perhaps that's a year?
EDIT:
I just noticed the wire lacing. How many meters have that as a construction feature? Not too damn many, I'd wager.
Now, can we please have some positive interaction? It seems like the only time you ever bother to talk to me any more it's something in a negative tone, or to correct me.
It really gets old.
mnem
Oh no....... ohhhhh...... noooooooooo.... I did it AGAIN !
Remember just a few days ago I talked about this horrible Gould 1604 scope that drove me nuts when I fixed it a year ago ? How I said it was a horrible experience that brought many grey hair, and how I promised myself I would never, ever buy a Gould scope again ?.....
Some time ago, I had a Gould scope in my stash:
https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/show-your-strangest-crappiest-piece-of-te/msg1807304/#msg1807304
I don't have it anymore, but there might exist one more where it came from, might have been scrapped in the meantime, don't know. In case you're interested, I'll have a look tomorrow if it's still there and silently take it away for you (no one will ever miss it).
Oh hell... someone hide all my bank cards and hit me in the head before I do something foolish...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/373727179675
"NVM Fail" = non volatile memory fail. the calibration is probably lost
Oh hell... someone hide all my bank cards and hit me in the head before I do something foolish...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/373727179675
"NVM Fail" = non volatile memory fail. the calibration is probably lost
Id buy it if he shipped to Oz.... bloody addictions....
Now, can we please have some positive interaction? It seems like the only time you ever bother to talk to me any more it's something in a negative tone, or to correct me.
You know that's not true.QuoteIt really gets old.
mnem
I'll tell you what gets old, not being able to quietly correct a factual error in something you've written before first thinking "Is this worth it? Is the information important enough that it's worth risking sort of reply that Mnem might think somehow insults his understanding and cause him to take three pages to explain how he isn't wrong and I'm picking on him?". I didn't blink before correcting Vince about the silver solder thing earlier because I didn't expect any comeback for having the temerity to offer an alternative, and as far as I know, correct interpretation to him. I think hard every time I ought to reply to you and say "Erm no, it's like this", or "Not quite" or "I think you're misunderstanding this". I certainly genuinely wouldn't dare just say "That's wrong" to you for anything less than something categorically wrong and easily proven because I know that even that you'll quibble over. Think about that for a minute. No, really, think about that. I don't have to do mental weighing like that before risking disagreeing with anyone else on the whole forum, even people who are famously fractious, even the people everybody regards as gobshites.
Eutectic alloys like 63/37 have a solidus/liquidus temp that is very nearly the same.
A eutectic has a precise temperature at which it melts completely or sets completely - not nearly the same, exactly the same. It's half of the definition of a eutectic, the other half being that the melting point of a eutectic is lower than the melting points of the alloy's constituents.
A eutectic has a phase diagram like this:
At the eutectic alloy composition there is no temperature point where there is liquid of one element and solid of another.They use the term eutectic specifically for 63/37. Yet you and I both know that the change in state with this kind of solder is not that exact. You should be able to use the melting point of 63/37 to set the temp on your soldering station; the closest you can get is within a few degrees.
Is it the product QC? Is it the interaction between the alloy and the flux? Is it sunspots...? I'm going to guess a combination of the above and the response curve/PID loop of the iron.
Doesn't matter. These are the terms the people who make the stuff use, and right or wrong, we have to deal with it.
mnem
Quote from: dictionary
eutectic | juːˈtɛktɪk | Chemistry
adjective
relating to or denoting a mixture of substances (in fixed proportions) that melts and freezes at a single temperature that is lower than the melting points of the separate constituents or of any other mixture of them: "the eutectic mixture melts at 183°C" | "silver and copper form a eutectic system".
noun
a eutectic mixture.
• short for eutectic point.
ORIGIN
late 19th century: from Greek eutēktos ‘easily melting’, from eu ‘well, easily’ + tēkein ‘melt’.
Eutectic alloys like 63/37 have a solidus/liquidus temp that is very nearly the same. This can be a bit of a pain if you're trying to solder large masses, as achieving proper wetting can be difficult where the mass of the work is sucking the heat away very fast and it develops lumps where the solder solidifies while still wetting/flowing.
Now, can we please have some positive interaction? It seems like the only time you ever bother to talk to me any more it's something in a negative tone, or to correct me.