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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #107050 on: November 19, 2021, 02:12:55 pm »
Q: Do you know, why at IKEA there are arrows on the floor?

A: Because it is a "Einrichtungshaus".

 :-DD  ;D

(sorry for the english folks who didn't get it)   ;)

I am not English yet I still did not get it !  ;D
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #107051 on: November 19, 2021, 02:15:32 pm »
Q: Do you know, why at IKEA there are arrows on the floor?

A: Because it is a "Einrichtungshaus".

 :-DD  ;D

(sorry for the english folks who didn't get it)   ;)

I am not English yet I still did not get it !  ;D

I'm counting you as an adopted english fellow.  ;D
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« Reply #107052 on: November 19, 2021, 02:20:31 pm »
also add the CBA-factor, your time (your life time is the only hard limited resource), the nuisance factor ...

In other news I received the keys to the new home and I am busy packing up my old life.

All the best for you, hubby, your daughter and your new home.

Btw, a friend of mine has sent me this a few days ago:

Q: Do you know, why at IKEA there are arrows on the floor?

A: Because it is a "Einrichtungshaus".

 :-DD  ;D

(sorry for the english folks who didn't get it)   ;)

For those that don't know, I'll translate,

Q: Do you know, why at IKEA there are arrows on the floor?

A: Because it is a "Furniture Store".

And yes, you're right, I still don't get it, I take it that there is a special German meaning to it?

Who let Murphy in?

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #107053 on: November 19, 2021, 02:24:47 pm »
also add the CBA-factor, your time (your life time is the only hard limited resource), the nuisance factor ...

In other news I received the keys to the new home and I am busy packing up my old life.

All the best for you, hubby, your daughter and your new home.

Btw, a friend of mine has sent me this a few days ago:

Q: Do you know, why at IKEA there are arrows on the floor?

A: Because it is a "Einrichtungshaus".

 :-DD  ;D

(sorry for the english folks who didn't get it)   ;)

For those that don't know, I'll translate,

Q: Do you know, why at IKEA there are arrows on the floor?

A: Because it is a "Furniture Store".

And yes, you're right, I still don't get it, I take it that there is a special German meaning to it?

It's a "double" meaning in it, which works only in German.

1. yes, Einrichtungshaus comes from Einrichtung - Facility (DeepL translation) and Haus - house
   which gives you in the end the "furniture store"

2. One can read "Einrichtung" also as "one direction", which means, a house which allows only one direction walking through it.

 ;D
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #107054 on: November 19, 2021, 02:32:39 pm »
The remainders of an audiophil: https://www.ebay.de/itm/284524216689



It is this guy, I think:
http://vintagetubeservices.com/

Yes, it clearly indicates that is the seller in the description.
Take a look at the bid, then read the first sentence of the description:
"Here is the first auction for one TEK RM-31A."
 :wtf:

EDIT:
There are so many Indicators Of Wrong on that page...

There are so many indicators of wrong in the eBay ad as well.
The rest of the description is not describing the article for sale, but is a general description of the collection that the article came from.
It really appears to me to be intentionally deceptive!
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #107055 on: November 19, 2021, 02:45:58 pm »
also add the CBA-factor, your time (your life time is the only hard limited resource), the nuisance factor ...

In other news I received the keys to the new home and I am busy packing up my old life.

All the best for you, hubby, your daughter and your new home.

Btw, a friend of mine has sent me this a few days ago:

Q: Do you know, why at IKEA there are arrows on the floor?

A: Because it is a "Einrichtungshaus".

 :-DD  ;D

(sorry for the english folks who didn't get it)   ;)

For those that don't know, I'll translate,

Q: Do you know, why at IKEA there are arrows on the floor?

A: Because it is a "Furniture Store".

And yes, you're right, I still don't get it, I take it that there is a special German meaning to it?

It's a "double" meaning in it, which works only in German.

1. yes, Einrichtungshaus comes from Einrichtung - Facility (DeepL translation) and Haus - house
   which gives you in the end the "furniture store"

2. One can read "Einrichtung" also as "one direction", which means, a house which allows only one direction walking through it.

 ;D
Haha, am I the only person then who has managed to completely negate the Ikea arrows by finding shortcuts through their stores?
Who let Murphy in?

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #107056 on: November 19, 2021, 02:49:17 pm »
Q: Do you know, why at IKEA there are arrows on the floor?

A: Because it is a "Einrichtungshaus".

 :-DD  ;D

(sorry for the english folks who didn't get it)   ;)

I am not English yet I still did not get it !  ;D

I'm counting you as an adopted english fellow.  ;D


Oh no ! I am fucked then ! That means I will have to drink tea and eat marmite and like it ! HOW CRUEL OF YOU !!!  :scared:

I want my French VISA back !  :-DD
 
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« Reply #107057 on: November 19, 2021, 02:57:47 pm »
also add the CBA-factor, your time (your life time is the only hard limited resource), the nuisance factor ...

In other news I received the keys to the new home and I am busy packing up my old life.

All the best for you, hubby, your daughter and your new home.

Btw, a friend of mine has sent me this a few days ago:

Q: Do you know, why at IKEA there are arrows on the floor?

A: Because it is a "Einrichtungshaus".

 :-DD  ;D

(sorry for the english folks who didn't get it)   ;)

For those that don't know, I'll translate,

Q: Do you know, why at IKEA there are arrows on the floor?

A: Because it is a "Furniture Store".

And yes, you're right, I still don't get it, I take it that there is a special German meaning to it?

It's a "double" meaning in it, which works only in German.

1. yes, Einrichtungshaus comes from Einrichtung - Facility (DeepL translation) and Haus - house
   which gives you in the end the "furniture store"

2. One can read "Einrichtung" also as "one direction", which means, a house which allows only one direction walking through it.

 ;D
Haha, am I the only person then who has managed to completely negate the Ikea arrows by finding shortcuts through their stores?

As an English speaking person, even I was able to pick out the "Ein" (one) at the beginning.

No, you are not the only person.  In the IKEA Canada stores, there are floor plan maps that are required to show emergency exits and other safety information.  Those maps also show the shortcuts.
There are those who study the maps and determine the optimum route to get the items they need and then get out in the shortest time possible.
These people may be a minority since I seem to socialize with few people who are not engineers...
Thankfully, I can find lots of engineers who are also mountain bikers, skiers, hikers, etc. :)
 
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« Reply #107058 on: November 19, 2021, 02:59:17 pm »
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Haha, am I the only person then who has managed to completely negate the Ikea arrows by finding shortcuts through their stores?
And still, they manage to make the "shortcut" a looong way around to see all the "good stuff" they have for sale >:(
Yet, the look on the faces, when you come by walking fast in the "wrong direction", makes it worth  >:D

There smart home lamps are not half bad and the "Eneloop reject" LSD-NiMH are worth a trip if you need some.
Now that I think of it, don't miss the "SKYDD" food-grade "kitchen utensil" wood oil -
it makes for decent HV transformer oil in a pinch, but works good at it's intended purpose as well.

No, you are not the only person.  In the IKEA Canada stores, there are floor plan maps that are required to show emergency exits and other safety information.  Those maps also show the shortcuts.
There are those who study the maps and determine the optimum route to get the items they need and then get out in the shortest time possible.
These people may be a minority since I seem to socialize with few people who are not engineers...
Thankfully, I can find lots of engineers who are also mountain bikers, skiers, hikers, etc. :)
Yes, the maps here show the shortcuts as well. With regard to how short, see above  >:(
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #107059 on: November 19, 2021, 03:00:53 pm »
The remainders of an audiophil: https://www.ebay.de/itm/284524216689



It is this guy, I think:
http://vintagetubeservices.com/

Yes, it clearly indicates that is the seller in the description.
Take a look at the bid, then read the first sentence of the description:
"Here is the first auction for one TEK RM-31A."
 :wtf:

EDIT:
There are so many Indicators Of Wrong on that page...

There are so many indicators of wrong in the eBay ad as well.
The rest of the description is not describing the article for sale, but is a general description of the collection that the article came from.
It really appears to me to be intentionally deceptive!


Yes it's strange... the title of the ad is redacted with grammar so poor that it looks as if it was done on purpose/anticipation of the inevitable ebay claim, so he could pretend the buyer " read it wrong " or something, and that it's therefore his fault !  :--

I guess he is relying on the very first sentence of the description which however clearly states the ad is for only ONE single scope, and nothing else, to get out of trouble and win the claim ?!   :wtf:

I am tempted to send him a message so his reply can be publicly displayed at the bottom of the ad, hoping it would warn potential naive buyers....
Or maybe one can tell ebay that this a scam and the ad should deleted and the buyer sanctioned ? If there is such a mechanism on Ebay ??

 
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« Reply #107060 on: November 19, 2021, 03:08:02 pm »
I am busy packing up my old life.

I am packing up my parent's old life. Currently trying to work out whether it would be illegal to sell some of the items.
There are lies, damned lies, statistics - and ADC/DAC specs.
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« Reply #107061 on: November 19, 2021, 03:19:17 pm »
The remainders of an audiophil: https://www.ebay.de/itm/284524216689



It is this guy, I think:
http://vintagetubeservices.com/

That business has gone right on my personal list of companies I won't buy from.  That's heartbreaking knowing that's not a collection, it's the scrap line waiting to be broken up.
 
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« Reply #107062 on: November 19, 2021, 03:23:16 pm »
Haha, am I the only person then who has managed to completely negate the Ikea arrows by finding shortcuts through their stores?

No, i like to find shortcuts, too. And in the ikeas arround me are not all shortcuts in the map. But the map is good for orientation. Just make a photo with the smartphone, so you allways know where you are. If you know the system, you can get where you want in very short time, ignoring the sheeps, lemmings and other trabants in the arrow-directed orbit.
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« Reply #107063 on: November 19, 2021, 03:49:59 pm »
The remainders of an audiophil: https://www.ebay.de/itm/284524216689



It is this guy, I think:
http://vintagetubeservices.com/

That business has gone right on my personal list of companies I won't buy from.  That's heartbreaking knowing that's not a collection, it's the scrap line waiting to be broken up.

By the look of the listing he is fishing for buyers off ebay. Listing a collection an then saying it's one 'scope is wrong. It is lso lised as "used" so the item is supposed to be fully working.
I've reportd him to ebay for avoiding fees but it might be better if some ebay.com regerstered folks report him for that and misleading description.
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« Reply #107064 on: November 19, 2021, 03:55:14 pm »
My 99p Fluke NetDaq logger arried today and I had not even paid for it yet  :-//
Seems to be basically working with 10 Type J thermocouples and even a mins lead   :-+
It doesn't look as bad in reality as it did in the Photos. The crack in the display filter is no over any active part of the display and the VFD is nice and bright
 
 
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« Reply #107065 on: November 19, 2021, 04:19:09 pm »
Yes!! Yess!!
I found one, it arrived and it works!  :-+ :-+

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« Reply #107066 on: November 19, 2021, 04:36:57 pm »
also add the CBA-factor, your time (your life time is the only hard limited resource), the nuisance factor ...

In other news I received the keys to the new home and I am busy packing up my old life.

All the best for you, hubby, your daughter and your new home.

Btw, a friend of mine has sent me this a few days ago:

Q: Do you know, why at IKEA there are arrows on the floor?

A: Because it is a "Einrichtungshaus".

 :-DD  ;D

(sorry for the english folks who didn't get it)   ;)

(Noch ein Flachwitz; du bist Meisterklasse drin! ) (=yes, I got it)

At the IKEA in Osnabrück, they don't take credit cards when you want to buy Köttbullar. Also, they get confused when you order in Swedish. Other than that, it was a pretty normal experience.  Why did we go there? Well, the store is visible from the Autobahn, and it was lunch time, and we were hungry. And, it felt like home away from home.

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« Reply #107067 on: November 19, 2021, 04:42:19 pm »

Haha, am I the only person then who has managed to completely negate the Ikea arrows by finding shortcuts through their stores?

Once I went in to the store through the cash register line, got what I needed, and went out the same way. Very efficient. Very much not "Einrichtung". No, it's not only you. We practice it all the time, and TBH, they've started to signpost the shortcuts too here.

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« Reply #107068 on: November 19, 2021, 04:54:04 pm »
Todays TE arrival: One UT-210E clamp meter. It works, on low DC amps up to moderate -- a shorted Oltronix PSU gives 3,15A and that registers. NCV is very sensitive. Not as useful, perhaps.

I bought it on Ebay, from China, seller kingda_industrial_de and that's something I add because they use the right shipping agent, which is reasonably fast and makes customs a non-problem.

Also, I hand-carried my TTI PSU home. Must fix dinner, then I'll unpack it and start drawing amps off of it.

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« Reply #107069 on: November 19, 2021, 04:54:27 pm »
At the IKEA in Osnabrück, they don't take credit cards when you want to buy Köttbullar. Also, they get confused when you order in Swedish. Other than that, it was a pretty normal experience.  Why did we go there? Well, the store is visible from the Autobahn, and it was lunch time, and we were hungry. And, it felt like home away from home.

How was your lunch experience? I found the quality of the restaurant was significantly lowered quite some years ago. Additionally they removed nearly all branded items (besides Marabou) from their grocer's shop.
Breakfast seems to be still OK.
 

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« Reply #107070 on: November 19, 2021, 04:55:32 pm »
At the IKEA in Osnabrück,

How was your lunch experience?

It was OK, not more.

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« Reply #107071 on: November 19, 2021, 05:00:01 pm »
einrichtungshaus -> furniture store
ein richtungs haus -> a directional house

https://translate.google.com/?sl=de&tl=en&text=einrichtungshaus%0Aein%20richtungs%20haus&op=translate
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« Reply #107072 on: November 19, 2021, 05:25:36 pm »
*Drum roll please*  Finally, some photos of the RM564.
It is a rare occurrence when I have time, decent sunlight and available space with both SWMBO and dog not present.

Here is the main unit itself.  It looks decent, although it has a bit of dust and dirt.
The installed plug-ins are the Type 63 differential amplifier and the Type 2B67 time base.
Two additional plug-ins came with it; another Type 2B67 time base and a Type 3A72 dual-trace amplifier.
It is a bit difficult to remove the plug-in on the right side.  I assume a bit of mechanical adjustment will take care of that.



This pleases me.  Not because the unit is supposedly out of calibration, but the provenance  :-+
The Type63 plug-in was used for the robotic arm project for the space shuttle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadarm



I have something to do.  The red knob selects to invert channel 1 of the 3A72 dual-trace amplifier.

The switch looks fine in the normal position.  Look more closely, or come back after looking at the next picture.

However, instead of moving the sweep for the inverted position, a whole chunk of the switch moves.


I think it makes sense to start a separate thread for the LARGE photos and for the project itself.
Let me know what photos you would like to see, in addition to what I think is interesting.

EDIT:  fixing images, as expected.  Note that these are the SMALL images.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #107073 on: November 19, 2021, 06:04:15 pm »
That broken switch wafer you have, I have exactly the same problem on my 575 curve tracer. I just super glued it back together and much to my surprise it actually holds up ! At least it should last long enough for you to test that the features associated with this switch are working and if not, will hold up long enough to let you fix whatever electrical issue there might be. Then you can take your time to figure out a more permanent/better solution...

As for picture size... no need for larger/heavier files. The ones you just posted are plenty good enough to easily see what there is to see.  ;D

EDIT : the pics of the switch show what looks like  pristine interior.. zero corrosion, not even dull looking metals surfaces, clean tubes, it's a winner.
The contacts on your broken wafer are extremely dirty, all black. Needs to be cleaned.. but that's quick and easy to do. Do that before testing anything really...

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« Reply #107074 on: November 19, 2021, 06:27:07 pm »
Q: Do you know, why at IKEA there are arrows on the floor?

A: Because it is a "Einrichtungshaus".

 :-DD  ;D

(sorry for the english folks who didn't get it)   ;)

I am not English yet I still did not get it !  ;D

I'm counting you as an adopted english fellow.  ;D

I'm English (for some value of English) and I do get it [Hurls soggy boot]. What does that make me?

Hint for the German challenged:


Suitably bent and twisted.
Anybody got a syringe I can use to squeeze the magic smoke back into this?
 
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