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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #121075 on: May 29, 2022, 10:48:31 am »
I did snipe something today, but not the Keithley. I promise ...

With you I'm never sure so I'll ask... Snipe as in "pick up a good bargain" or Snipe as in "hang around on a roof top with a high powered rifle"?  ???

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« Reply #121076 on: May 29, 2022, 10:52:58 am »
If you must know, I did win an auction for the girl version of something similar to the Inspector Callahan style slug thrower.
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #121077 on: May 29, 2022, 10:57:42 am »
Got a close up of the component marked "RV3". Not sure it's a TVS, those should measure infinite resistance? These measure ~200 megs.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #121078 on: May 29, 2022, 11:01:16 am »
I bet if you lifted up one leg it’d be open circuit. Something else is probably defining the measured resistance.

IV curve for those is fairly abrupt  :-DD
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #121079 on: May 29, 2022, 11:01:35 am »
If you must know, I did win an auction for the girl version of something similar to the Inspector Callahan style slug thrower.

I just figured Dirty Harry Clint Eastwood throwing "Nacktschnecken" at Saskia ;)



SCNR ;) (Yes, I know, there's a lot of other translations for slug, most probably better matching the matter).
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #121080 on: May 29, 2022, 11:05:46 am »
ok, to give you a more exact specification:
I won a S&W 28-2 for 334 Pesos.
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #121081 on: May 29, 2022, 11:17:29 am »

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If you can find cheap good condition 547's regularly and close to you... well lucky you ! Not here.
...

Come back to the UK then. Am I right in thinking that you went to the Hertford University to study? If so, that I have done a few lighting projects there.

Yes I attempted an EE B.Eng (hons) in Herts Uni in Hatfield, 3 years total, 2 years at Uni per se + one optional placement/sandwich year that I chose to do.
Started in September 1998 then next year moved near Cambridge to do my placement in a small company Webtec Instruments in Saint-Ives, then moved back to Hatfield in September 2000 to do the final year, didn't get the degree for XYZ reason (I didn't even take the final exam IIRC) then left the country, back to Frog land, in September 2001.

I don't think I will ever move back to the UK, I have just built a house here and I like it very much here. France is fucked up in many ways thanks to our successive corrupt governments, but no worse than any other western country I think... I still think I got lucky to be born here rather than anywhere else. My luck in life ends about there though...

So I rely on TEA to stay in touch with the UK, and on shipping companies to get stuff from there. You have to compromise, can't have it all...
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #121082 on: May 29, 2022, 11:23:38 am »
Task list for the day. TE day.

1. Fire up the Heathkit counter on a bench supply and check it out. Then bring up on mains.
2. Test and calibrate the black star 2010 FG
3. Strip down the 34401A, clean and inspect.
4. Finish parts bulk order and submit to CPC.

Photos coming throughout the day :)
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #121083 on: May 29, 2022, 11:27:59 am »



7 & 9 pin "miniature" tubes don't much care about conditions---the working bits are sealed inside, after all, & the pins are quite rigid.
Octals may suffer, because the connecting leads inside the plastic bases are a bit more flimsy.

Lost vacuum is usually the result of "one off" sealing problems in service, or rough handling of loose tubes.
Even though I have no real space for a 500 series CRO, I would grab it if it were nearby at that price.

I have to disagree with you there, unless the outside environment is very dry, i.e the desert mine dumps, that a certain Youtuber has found old TVs & radios to resurrect.
In the UK outside with plenty of rain, or damp leaky sheds, lofts, garages etc. is more typical. The tube pins corrode to the point they crack the glass and you can say goodbye to the vacuum, or the neon fill for volt-ref & display tubes.

Example from a 50MHz hp scope, 2/3rds of the glassware was cracked and it didn't matter it they were German, British, Dutch, US or Japanese, etc. brands, they failed they same way.  :'(
I was able to rescue enough OK tubes to get the vertical input plug-in going and a couple for the delayed timebase plug-in, but that was it. The rest became a parts donor, as I have three of them that are in much better condition.


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Wow that's a lot of white tubes indeed ! :-DD

Still not a showstopper in the case of this 547 since again, that would be dead easy to spot when I would have looked at it. Hell even if not in the flesh, on pictures alone it would be easy to spot.
Plus if the pins are corroded that bad, there would also be obviosu signs of corrosion everywhere else in side the scope, would also be easy to spot even remotely on pictures.

My take on it, based on the picture an extensive  experience of French sellers on that website... is simply that this scope has been pulled from a garage and put on that terrace / garden simply so the guy can have broad day light to take decent pictures of it. Many of the scopes I bought were taken pictures of in a similar fashion and none appeared to actually have been living in the environment the pictures were taken at. Thankfully.
If that scope had indeed been sitting for years outside where that pic shows, the outside of it would be in a much worse condition I think. There would be nothing left of the side covers to begin with. Like no paint left, just rusty panels.

I just don't see the decorative value of that scope in a garden. If just for that it's unlikely it would have been sitting there for years under the rain...

Again... its condition would be obvious once seeing it in the flesh, so it does not matter the speculation and guesses. If it's just down the street you simply go have a look (armed with a screw driver to open it), and be done with it. Like it, take it. Don't like it, don't take it. Simple...  :-//

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #121084 on: May 29, 2022, 11:29:03 am »
Task list for the day. TE day.

1. Fire up the Heathkit counter on a bench supply and check it out. Then bring up on mains.
2. Test and calibrate the black star 2010 FG
3. Strip down the 34401A, clean and inspect.
4. Finish parts bulk order and submit to CPC.

Photos coming throughout the day :)

What does " CPC " stand for ??

 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #121085 on: May 29, 2022, 11:40:12 am »
Task list for the day. TE day.

1. Fire up the Heathkit counter on a bench supply and check it out. Then bring up on mains.
2. Test and calibrate the black star 2010 FG
3. Strip down the 34401A, clean and inspect.
4. Finish parts bulk order and submit to CPC.

Photos coming throughout the day :)

What does " CPC " stand for ??

CPC: https://cpc.farnell.com/

Component and stuff supplier. Cheap but generally staffed by retards.

Example problems here: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/cpc-in-the-uk-are-a-disaster-of-a-company/msg2599527/

I still use them occasionally as you get other people’s orders  :-DD. Also they are the only UK stockist of decent and cheap resistors. The multicomp 1% 0.25W ones are actually decent quality Royal Ohm ones.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #121086 on: May 29, 2022, 11:43:25 am »
I did snipe something today, but not the Keithley. I promise ...

With you I'm never sure so I'll ask... Snipe as in "pick up a good bargain" or Snipe as in "hang around on a roof top with a high powered rifle"?  ???

McBryce.

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #121087 on: May 29, 2022, 11:52:59 am »
I bet if you lifted up one leg it’d be open circuit. Something else is probably defining the measured resistance.

IV curve for those is fairly abrupt  :-DD

Maybe. Anyway, I've suspended proceedings for the time being; I'm coughing and sneezing too much, and I don't want to add gobbets of phlegm to the board...

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #121088 on: May 29, 2022, 12:05:59 pm »
CPC: https://cpc.farnell.com/

Component and stuff supplier. Cheap but generally staffed by retards.

Aren't all companies like that? Can't tell a capacitor from a sticky sweet?

They used to have cheap tant bead caps.
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #121089 on: May 29, 2022, 12:08:35 pm »
Task list for the day. TE day.

1. Fire up the Heathkit counter on a bench supply and check it out. Then bring up on mains.
2. Test and calibrate the black star 2010 FG
3. Strip down the 34401A, clean and inspect.
4. Finish parts bulk order and submit to CPC.

Photos coming throughout the day :)

What does " CPC " stand for ??

It used to be Combined Precision Components, but just shortened to CPC these days.

I've only had one order messed up by them, a few years back I had some compact fluroescent lamps on the order and got Halogen instead, they did send the correct ones after contacting them and for some reason didn't want the incorrect ones back.
Also packaging can be poor, i.e. heavy items in the same box, with delicate items and a few of those crappy air filled packets in between.

David
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #121090 on: May 29, 2022, 12:10:12 pm »
Task list for the day. TE day.

1. Fire up the Heathkit counter on a bench supply and check it out. Then bring up on mains.
2. Test and calibrate the black star 2010 FG
3. Strip down the 34401A, clean and inspect.
4. Finish parts bulk order and submit to CPC.

Photos coming throughout the day :)

What does " CPC " stand for ??

It used to be Combined Precision Components, but just shortened to CPC these days.

David

Think it stands for Chinese Procurement Crapfest now.
 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #121091 on: May 29, 2022, 12:11:39 pm »
CPC: https://cpc.farnell.com/

Component and stuff supplier. Cheap but generally staffed by retards.

Aren't all companies like that? Can't tell a capacitor from a sticky sweet?

They used to have cheap tant bead caps.

Fair point. At least RS has some sort of validation process on what you buy.

They still sell those. Thanks for the reminder! Added to shopping list.
 

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #121092 on: May 29, 2022, 12:27:02 pm »
I did snipe something today, but not the Keithley. I promise ...

With you I'm never sure so I'll ask... Snipe as in "pick up a good bargain" or Snipe as in "hang around on a roof top with a high powered rifle"?  ???

McBryce.

I'm mostly harmless ...

I dunno about that - that avatar feels like a warning to all who would cross you ...  :-DD
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #121093 on: May 29, 2022, 12:31:13 pm »
OK OK... so if CPC has some cheap good stuff of their own, OK might be worth the trouble (looked at your CPC topic.. scary) I don't know... but for everything else why not just order direct from the UK Farnell web site ?

In 15+ years I have never had any issue with a Farnell order here. Only thing I hate is that 99% of the time, my order comes in 2 or 3  different deliveries, because the items are stored in various warehouses of theirs, throughout Europe. So I have one transistor coming from a French warehouse, a resistor coming from a UK warehouse, etc etc. Problem is that I get billed by each different warehouse !
So when I order for say 50 Euros worth of good from Farnell's website, on my bank account I don't see this single50 Euros payment. Instead I will a 13.67 Euros payment from one Warehouse, then 3 days later another warehouse will charge me 23.69 euros, etc etc, and I have to keep track of all these payments in my bank account to make sure it all adds up to the expected total amount. It's an accounting shit show, I hate that !  |O

 
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« Reply #121094 on: May 29, 2022, 12:52:27 pm »
Oh bollocks. So who sniped this before I did at the checkout  :-DD

Innocent.

Unfortunately.
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« Reply #121095 on: May 29, 2022, 12:52:40 pm »
I'm mostly harmless ...

Where my mind went with that comment.....

 
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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #121096 on: May 29, 2022, 12:55:36 pm »
Alright Vince, you called it...

I have a TDS794D on the way to me in the next few days...  :-DD
Where does all this test equipment keep coming from?!?

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Re: Test Equipment Anonymous (TEA) group therapy thread
« Reply #121097 on: May 29, 2022, 01:01:34 pm »
OK OK... so if CPC has some cheap good stuff of their own, OK might be worth the trouble (looked at your CPC topic.. scary) I don't know... but for everything else why not just order direct from the UK Farnell web site ?

In 15+ years I have never had any issue with a Farnell order here. Only thing I hate is that 99% of the time, my order comes in 2 or 3  different deliveries, because the items are stored in various warehouses of theirs, throughout Europe. So I have one transistor coming from a French warehouse, a resistor coming from a UK warehouse, etc etc. Problem is that I get billed by each different warehouse !
So when I order for say 50 Euros worth of good from Farnell's website, on my bank account I don't see this single50 Euros payment. Instead I will a 13.67 Euros payment from one Warehouse, then 3 days later another warehouse will charge me 23.69 euros, etc etc, and I have to keep track of all these payments in my bank account to make sure it all adds up to the expected total amount. It's an accounting shit show, I hate that !  |O

Farnell is a lot more expensive on the same lines generally.

Example if I want 50x 1K 0.25W 1% resistors:

CPC = £1.19 inc VAT
Farnell = £3.20 inc VAT

For the same fucking item.

I can the same shipped from Tayda for $1 but the delivery cost usually kills the efficiency of that.
 
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« Reply #121098 on: May 29, 2022, 01:08:32 pm »
Alright Vince, you called it...

I have a TDS794D on the way to me in the next few days...  :-DD

Cool !  :-+

Once you have done all your usual magic to it, I will trade it for this gem of mine.
A beautiful OEM Brother 9mm cassette, worth a fortune.

I am willing to let it go for a mere 500 Euros because it has slight wear and tear here and there, but is otherwise perfectly functional, all the bits are present, guaranteed.
I am even willing to give TEA members a special discount, 2% off. But I have only one available so first come first served, hurry up ! >:D

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« Reply #121099 on: May 29, 2022, 01:13:39 pm »
Reminds me of my experience with 8 track tapes as a teenager.  :phew:

Cool !  :-+

Once you have done all your usual magic to it, I will trade it for this gem of mine.
A beautiful OEM 9mm cassette, worth a fortune.

I am willing to let it go for a mere 500 Euros because it has slight wear and tear here and there, but is otherwise perfectly functional, all the bits are present, guaranteed.
I am even willing to give TEA members a special discount, 2% off. But I have only one available so first come first served, hurry up ! >:D


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